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Offline LatinoHeat

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Bic or Zippo?
« on: April 26, 2009, 02:44:50 AM »
Hey guys.  I am not a smoker, but see the value of having a lighter on your person, for those "just in case" moments that life throws at us from time to time.  Now, lately I have been carrying a small Bic lighter, but am thinking about getting something a little more traditional, like a Zippo.  I have been talking to some smokers at work, and they tell me that the Zippos require a bit more maintenance then the Bics.  The fluid evaporates rather quickly if it isn't used regularly, and it needs to be kept clean.  They all say the Bics are pretty much idiout proof, don't need much of anything, the lighter fluid lasts for ever, and if it gets wet, just let it dry and it's good to go.  So, I ask you guys, which should I carry?  I need your pros and cons for both.  Like I said, I am not a smoker, so usages will be few and far between.  However, I love tradition.
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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 02:49:00 AM »
I refill my zippo (non-smoker) every weekend, takes 3 minutes tops.. If you don't mind that and can remember it there is no problem. Besides, zippo is just cooler than bic.  :D

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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 02:50:33 AM »
Since you go in and out of water quite frequently at work being a gator wrestler, I would say keep carrying the Bic. It's very inexpensive if it gets lost or something they're easily replaceable. A Zippo is still a good option, but you need to maintain it by buying new flints, wicks, batting, etc. And, they're more expensive if it gets lost, stolen, etc.  So, if I were you, I would continue to carry a Bic. But, if you want something that's funner to play with when your bored or something, get the Zippo!  :D :D
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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 03:11:32 AM »
People will steal a Zippo in a heartbeat,and generally leave a Bic alone.On the plus side for Zippo,is that they are generally windproof.
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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 03:23:37 AM »
I smoke, ok let me rephrase it I smoke a lot  :( and I almost always had a zippo on me for bout 7-8 years now since I picked up the nasty  :D habbit. Recently the zippo (many of em around the place) has been retired for a small orange bic (got to love orange) lighter that lasts for a few months, and this is with constant use lighting 20 odd cigarettes a day every day. The trouble with the zippo is that it does require constant refills. For a regular smoker every 3 days or so (5 days for new lighters) and the fluid does evaporate even if not used. Chances are that the lighter will be empty when you really need it. The bic on the other hand can sit for years unused and work fine when you pick it up, and they can be found almost anywhere when a replacement is needed for around a buck.

The weakest part of the zippo is it's hinge, mine broke after 5 or so years of use and being dripped on hard surface etc... The wicks are a pita to change, the flint and fluid on the other hand are a piece of cake. Now there's the Peanut lighter from county comm and other sources that has an o ring seal and the lighter will work, months after even if not used.  :cheers:

You can always carry both just in case  :D

p.s. Post 9/11 flight with Virgin Air. The security told me that only one lighter per person is permitted on the plane, at the time I had both a zippo and a bic with me. The guard wanted to take the zippo away stating the above rule at which I laughed and handed him the bic instead.

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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 04:07:23 AM »
Have you given the peanut lighter any thought LH :think: They are a smaller version of the Zippo type and have O-rings in them and the lighter fluid lasts much longer and would be good in the water as well :tu:

here's an example of 1 on Ebay and it's not a bad price either ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Mini-Water-Resistant-Stainless-Steel-Lighter-Fire_W0QQitemZ180350016234QQihZ008QQcategoryZ71002QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

there are plenty of them out there on the net but you have to know what to type in to look for  :tu: I believe that County Comm has them as well :cheers:
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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 04:09:51 AM »
It's cool carrying a Zippo, especially the small one. It compliments the TTi I edc!


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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 04:35:01 AM »
I guess I should answer your question though :D between the 2 I would go with the Zippo for the cool factor 8) :D
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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 03:05:46 PM »
I don't smoke either, but I carry a zippo. I carry the zippo instead of a bic mostly just because I like it better, and I actually enjoy the simple old-time maintenance involved. That said, I do have a few bics around, and if I'd carry one of them for a day if I thought I might loose it or get it wet.

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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 03:23:42 PM »
A plus for a Zippo is it's crush proof and crack proof.  Also in a "survival situation" the flint can still be struck into tinder if you're out of fluid.  Actually you can pull some of the stuffing out of the Zippo and use that as tinder. 

No reason not to keep both IMO...I always have a Zippo in my pocket, and a Bic closeby in either a coat pocket, car, pack, etc...

Maintenece isn't all that time consuming...filling it up with fluid takes about a minute, changing a flint takes about a minute, changing a wick takes a bit longer, but you won't have to do that for years probably.  Speaking of flints, you can carry one or two spares just under the pad...enough for thousands of strikes.
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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 03:29:09 PM »
I don't smoke, but still carry a Zippo on account of the fact that there so robust, and can light on pretty much any available fuel :)

Plus you can easily knock someone out with one, by slaming it in to the side of there jaw :angel:

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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2009, 10:29:38 PM »
I have both but I carry a Bic.
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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2009, 10:38:21 PM »
I carry both!

The Zippo is a much nicer lighter, but the bic (actually it's not a Bic but a cheap plastic disposable) is a reliable backup if the Zippo runs out.


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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2009, 10:53:52 PM »
While we are on the subject there are some semidisposable lighters that are made in Spain that can be refilled and the flint changed. Also the cost around $2.

Like this

http://www.bolinat.com/product_max.asp?id=4141
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Re: Bic or Zippo?
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2009, 11:00:25 PM »
Clippers have been popular over here since I was at school! They do a refillable and a disposable version, and are quite reliable. The flint wheel gets very hot though and I've burnt my thumb on more than one occasion with Clippers.


 

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