My pocket carry EDC/OCD :0)

[Flash]

Hey 

Where is that picture of me  I know you carry it...


(Then again Hedgey reads this and I understand you don't want to upset her.....but guess what?


She carries a picture of me as well  )

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Hey 

Where is that picture of me  I know you carry it...


(Then again Hedgey reads this and I understand you don't want to upset her.....but guess what?


She carries a picture of me as well  )

Is that to scare them awake

[AHB]

Is that to scare them awake

Then can I have one too...? It would save me alot of coffee in the morning... 

[jzmtl]

Huh you guys actually carry a separate donor card? Here it's indicated on driver's license. there are three options, yes, no, consult family member. In u.s. I recall there are only two, yes and no. But doesn't matter what you say it's ultimately up to family member to decide after you die.

[nuphoria]

Yeah, I've got one of the top of your head but it looks like a full moon

[nuphoria]

Huh you guys actually carry a separate donor card? Here it's indicated on driver's license. there are three options, yes, no, consult family member. In u.s. I recall there are only two, yes and no. But doesn't matter what you say it's ultimately up to family member to decide after you die.

Well, not enough people actually carry them sadly. We recently had a proposal to make it the other way round, so you had to carry an opt out of donation card, which I personally think is a great idea. I'm not sure if the new style driving licenses have a donor thing on them or not - mine is about 100 years old!

[Flash]

Yeah, I've got one of the top of your head but it looks like a full moon

Just for that, at the next meet I will show you a new definition of "moon" 

[jzmtl]

Who holds the ultimate authority thou, what you say on the card or family member?

I don't like the opt out system despite chose yes on my license. Too much big brother, government forced recycling of body parts... It was suggested here too, but got shot down quickly if I recall.

[nuphoria]

Yeah, I've got one of the top of your head but it looks like a full moon

Just for that, at the next meet I will show you a new definition of "moon" 

Oh sweet Jesus..... 

[nuphoria]

Who holds the ultimate authority thou, what you say on the card or family member?

I don't like the opt out system despite chose yes on my license. Too much big brother, government forced recycling of body parts... It was suggested here too, but got shot down quickly if I recall.

Good point but as I'm a strong advocate of it, I would prefer it that way round.
Ultimately it is your next of kin who decides regardless of what card you carry etc. For me, both my partner and mother know my feelings on the subject so I hope if it should happen that I get appropriately recycled
That's the important message to get home I guess - make sure your people know what you want.

[Mr. Whippy]

Who holds the ultimate authority thou, what you say on the card or family member?

I don't like the opt out system despite chose yes on my license. Too much big brother, government forced recycling of body parts... It was suggested here too, but got shot down quickly if I recall.

Good point but as I'm a strong advocate of it, I would prefer it that way round.
Ultimately it is your next of kin who decides regardless of what card you carry etc. For me, both my partner and mother know my feelings on the subject so I hope if it should happen that I get appropriately recycled
That's the important message to get home I guess - make sure your people know what you want.

The biggest concern about a opt out system is, those who know they shouldn't donate (history of malignancy, HIV, Hep C etc) may not go to the bother of opting out.  It puts recipients at higher risk.  Opt in systems have built in safety in this respect.

[nuphoria]

It's relatively easy to test for those things before using any tissues for transplant - standard practise anyway as many people don't know their status regarding diseases.

[Mr. Whippy]

It's relatively easy to test for those things before using any tissues for transplant - standard practise anyway as many people don't know their status regarding diseases.

HIV still has a 14-21 day window period.  Hep C is around 2 weeks as well.  In the cases of organ harvesting I've been involved in, the transplant occurred within hours of harvest.  Testing is done, but it isn't failsafe.  Generally it is the quick and dirty screening test.

The system in US prefers to rely on the healthy to volunteer in, rather than the unsuitable having to actively opt out.  Just a different perspective, I guess.  Each with pluses and minuses.