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Re: Piranha
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2009, 09:56:38 am »
"Originality is the art of concealing your sources"
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Not working very well for the Piranha, huh..  ::)  ::)

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Re: Piranha
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2009, 09:58:59 am »
"Originality is the art of concealing your sources"
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Not working very well for the Piranha, huh..  ::)  ::)

Don't think they claim originality. :D ;)
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Re: Piranha
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2009, 10:12:20 am »
"Originality is the art of concealing your sources"
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Not working very well for the Piranha, huh..  ::)  ::)

Don't think they claim originality. :D ;)
Ohh sorry, but they do have "a superior method of driver bit storage"..  ::) :P

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Re: Piranha
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 02:07:51 pm »
I sent the company an email stating how unhappy I was that they ripped Peter Atwood off and this was their response:

Hi John,


I am sorry to hear of your criticism before even using our tool!  Who did Peter Atwood use to inspire his tools?  He was not the first nor do we claim to be!  Our tool is designed, manufactured, and stress tested to strict military and aerospace criteria (and by licensed professional engineers) unlike Atwoods!  It also features a superior method of driver bit storage -- no o-rings!  We do not restrict batch quantities and do not aim at the collector market.  Peter Atwood makes a fine tool, and we respect that.  Thanks for your inquiry!


Best Regards,


Justin
MK7 Designs


Ps. We weren't aware of JDR's product name prior to launching, but on closer inspection it appears that it is in fact a "Pryranha" anyways.

Any doubt they didn't know who Peter Atwood or JDR Knife & Tool were??  ::)  >:(  I dodn't see how anyone would want to support a company that is a hack and a fake!!!  >:( >:(

I am not sure why you would say its a rip off? The company does have a point, whether they heard of either other company or not they have the right to compete in a growing market. If there wasnt such a thing we would all wear the same clothes eat the same foods and drive the same cars. I for one am interested in this tool and look forward to it coming out.

You can look at the tool and not see an Atwood?  ::)  They are counting on guys like you to buy their products. I guess we simply live in a world where stealing is ok and nobody cares. I guess my time has passed and I need to live in the new world. I don't like it, but that's just the way it is. I'm tired of fighting for what is right. Nobody else cares, why should I???  :ahhh

So what your saying is I should go buy an old black and white TV because that was the first to come out and someone shouldnt have improved it or "made it a little different".  Your logic for not wanting them to make it doesnt make sense however I do respect your opnion and if you choose not to get one that is your choice, however like I said I am interested in this piece and look forward to it coming out.
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Re: Piranha
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 02:47:02 pm »
Gentlemen, some of us have strong feelings on this matter, so let's try to keep it civil and not fly of the handle or get offensive.  The simple fact is that like anything else, love it or hate it, Atwood's designs are out of the box now, and free for interpretation from just about any source.  You can like it, you can hate it, but like the sun coming up tomorrow, it's a fact.

And, each of us has the right to make a choice to buy or not buy whatever we want, based on our own preferences.  To dictate what someone should or shouldn't buy is as welcome as someone dictating to you what you should and shouldn't buy.

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Re: Piranha
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 03:38:08 pm »


« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 04:11:53 pm by Gadget Guy »
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Re: Piranha
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2009, 03:45:17 pm »
Well, it's clear to me, one is a fish, the other a crustacean.   ::)

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Re: Piranha
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2009, 03:51:50 pm »



Similar....yet different....
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Re: Piranha
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2009, 03:54:41 pm »



Similar....yet different....


Ok, I get it!!   ::)
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Re: Piranha
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2009, 04:37:01 pm »
Hey, maby we could get a special run of these with MTO stamped on em? :D

Wheres the nail puller on this thing? And how does it hold the bit in place? I'm curious. I emailed them and asked. Told them they should make a video of this thing in action as I'm confusaled on how some things are supposed to work.
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Re: Piranha
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2009, 04:42:37 pm »
Hey, maby we could get a special run of these with MTO stamped on em? :D

Wheres the nail puller on this thing? And how does it hold the bit in place? I'm curious. I emailed them and asked. Told them they should make a video of this thing in action as I'm confusaled on how some things are supposed to work.

Could it be a magnet that holds the bit in place :think:

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Re: Piranha
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2009, 05:32:11 pm »
If it was metric I'd definitely be interested. I have never been in to Atwoods because of the expense. They are indeed great pieces and obviously collectable but for me I'd want a functional tool which wasn't overpriced due to it's collectability factor. I don't really keep anything in the drawer queen category either so I guess they never appealed to me for that reason.

I wear Seiko watches mostly, not Rolexs or Brietlings etc, but that's not just because they are out of my sensible spending limits, it's because I think having a lower cost, ubiquitous item is absolutely fine, especially if it does the job just as well.

Horses for courses eh? Buyers decide these things ultimately  :)

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Re: Piranha
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2009, 05:43:23 pm »
OK, I must comment here as the "Atwoods are too expensive comment" is a pet peave of mine.  :D

Atwoods are only expensive amoungst the collectors, they aren't actually expensive from Peter himself.  This tool for example is listed as being up for $50.  That could get you quite a few Atwood tools (obviously not the fancy pants ones) if you are just quick enough to get them. 

Peter charges I belive good prices for what he makes.  It is only due to the limited number he does that the prices rise up.
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Re: Piranha
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2009, 05:58:00 pm »
As someone who got bitten by the Atwood bug and stumbled into the deep part of the pond for a bit, IMO,

Yes, you can get into seriously expensive tchotchkes pretty easily.

However, if you stick to Peter's Blog (and maybe even email him directly, he's a very nice guy), you can get his functional basic tools for a very reasonable price.

I look at my Wildcard and Atwrench and I am amazed at how handy they are.  Much easier to reach for quick use and their tools are extremely high quality.  Deceptively good.

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Re: Piranha
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2009, 06:22:17 pm »
Man, they are quite responsive. Less than a couple hours after sending the email I got this.
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Hello Joshua,

The bit is held into the tool with a piece of military spec neoprene rubber which interlocks into the steel frame of the tool.  It is quite secure.  We use the pry tips of the tool to lift the head of a nail and then insert the head of the nail into the slot for added leverage when needed.  A YouTube video would be a great idea!  Thank you for your feedback!

Happy Holidays,

D.J.
The MK7 Design Team
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And as far as this whole Atwood thing goes. I'd love a G3 prybaby. I watch the blog constantly trying to get one. Haven't got one. I am going to get this though.

Is that going to keep me from buying a G3 from Peter if I get the chance? Nope.

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