wave owners club,

[Adam Clark]

The Wave's my favorite! Count me in!! 

[Mike 208]

I read a thread on another forum a few months ago, about a poster who dropped his Wave while at work.  When the poster reached down to pick the Wave up off the floor, he noticed one of the knife blades had opened up.  The poster said that if he had just "grabbed" the tool off the floor (like he normally would have done), he would have been cut very badly.  Because of this, the poster said he "immediately" gave this Wave (and his back-up Wave) away to co-workers, and went back to carrying another model (I forgot which one) where the handles have to be opened to retrieve the blades.

[5hif7y]

i see it as revenge for dropping it. drop your tool and it will bite you. i trust my wave and if i drop it i will look befor i pick up. thanks for the warning 

[captain spaulding]

i see it as revenge for dropping it. drop your tool and it will bite you. i trust my wave and if i drop it i will look befor i pick up. thanks for the warning 

I completely agree. 

[Mercury]

I've been edc'ing a wave and a skeletool for acouple years now and I've never had the blades open up on me. I've even dropped them many times and the blades have never moved past the detent, and when the pliers are out on the wave both blades are locked closed.

I don't think OHO is a novelty, on an edc tool i'm not a fan of having to completely unfold the tool, search for the blade, open it, and then close the tool so I can now use my blade. I've edc'd my wave more than any other MT or folder that I own and it's been by far the most useful and the least novelty.

I think the bit driver is a good idea, even if you don't want to carry around bits it still has a phillips and a flat bit that came in the driver, which is just as much as most tools... It would be nice if it had more reach though. I agree the small bit driver is pretty useless, I've only used it once on a pair of glasses.

YMMV

@MTguy

Perhaps novelty is too strong a word for it, but I am just not a fan of the OHO system on the wave.  IMHO, the thumb hole is an awkward shape and a poor substitute for the spyderhole.  The liner lock, while a decent design, is sometimes executed poorly and it DOES make it past QC as Benner's story indicates.  The detent is just too small for me to be comfortable with, in my experiences tools get a bit loose over time.  Heck, my original PST(before I lost it) was so loose you could flick open the handles like a butterfly knife then flick the blade out.  It didn't extend all the way every time but you get the picture.  After some tightening it was back to factory tightness and function.  The problem with the wave is, after you wear down that little nib that holds the blade in, you can't just wrench down on the handles to hold it anymore because then you'll have a hell of a time opening the tool. 

I agree with the bit driver as well, I like it and wish they made it an option for the blast.  As for the blades coming open while driving screws, I have found that it may be a result of my technique when working a tough fastener.  It doesn't happen every time but that skele was in a position to cut me to the bone had I not been paying attention. 

This is just my very personal opinion about one facet of what I still think is a good tool all around, so please take no offense.  I see MANY people both here and in my personal life who love the wave and will buy no other.  I don't see myself as right or wrong, I just prefer the traditional style MT over the Wave.  heck, how many people talk about the Blast?  Not many, which means a lot of folks have issues with it not unlike my issue with the wave.  A ton of people hate that mini driver but It handles my glasses with ease, I could not do without it. 

Point is, as you said, YMMV.  And on this forum, we have traveled a TON of miles.


Cap

I always check my tools and knives before I pick them up after dropping them, I learned that one the hard way! 

5hif7y

I happen to really like the appearance of the Skele, but the same detent issue prevents me from really wanting to carry it.  If both these tools had a better blade detent, even just a larger one, I would definitely carry them!

[50ft-trad]

This is just my very personal opinion about one facet of what I still think is a good tool all around, so please take no offense.  I see MANY people both here and in my personal life who love the wave and will buy no other.  I don't see myself as right or wrong, I just prefer the traditional style MT over the Wave.  heck, how many people talk about the Blast?  Not many, which means a lot of folks have issues with it not unlike my issue with the wave.  A ton of people hate that mini driver but It handles my glasses with ease, I could not do without it. 

Point is, as you said, YMMV.  And on this forum, we have traveled a TON of miles.

I'm with you all the way there Merc  I tend to carry some of the less popular tools too. Are they categorically better than any other tool? Nope, just better for me (in certain settings). I'm a big advocate in trying lots of different things before deciding what works best for you, and often found myself rather surprised with the results. My modified (empty handled) Wave that I use for work is at home needing a thorough clean down, so I nearly put a Blast in my pocket today - switched it for the MP700 at the last moment, which many people would avoid like the plague

[ClassicGOD]

The problem with the wave is, after you wear down that little nib that holds the blade in, you can't just wrench down on the handles to hold it anymore because then you'll have a hell of a time opening the tool.

I can't agree with that. From my experience (I've disassembled the Wave about 6 times past few days just for fun, now I'm out of thread locking fluid and the tool tends to unscrew itself with use ) you can tighten the handle screws that hold external blades and plier head so much that it's impossible to open any blade with one hand and still have no problems opening the pliers.   

So even if you wear out the nib it is possible to tighten the tool enough that the bleed won't open by itself.

PS. I'm also not a huge fan of small bit driver.

[Dunc]

If you do manage to wear down the little nib then this would be covered by the warranty. 

[5hif7y]

What's the blade indent like on the charge? I don't own one and was wondering if it keeps it closed better than the wave?

[Dunc]

What's the blade indent like on the charge? I don't own one and was wondering if it keeps it closed better than the wave?

Its exactly the same

[turnsouth]

Yea, I've found that if I have the bit extender in, and I'm spinning a screw, that I have to be careful or my thumb will catch a blade hole and pull it out slightly. Almost an "ouch" moment.

[Mercury]

If you do manage to wear down the little nib then this would be covered by the warranty.

A very good point!

Yea, I've found that if I have the bit extender in, and I'm spinning a screw, that I have to be careful or my thumb will catch a blade hole and pull it out slightly. Almost an "ouch" moment.

That's what happens to me.  It is only in that scenario too, when using the screwdrivers.  Any other time the blades stay closed just fine.

[MTguy]

@Mercury

I took no offense to it, and I didn't mean any in my post. It's a good forum because everyone can share their opinions. Everyone has different needs for their MT so a tool that might be perfect for some people may not suit another person as well. Also even though a wave is a wave, quality control is never the same on every tool made so my experiences are not going to be the same as everyone's.

I do agree the thumbhole is no spyderhole and I do like to carry a dedicated folder whenever I can. If i'm carrying a folder I don't care if my MT is OHO or not, actually my last 3 tools have all been "traditional" MT's. But when I can't carry a folder or if I don't want to then the wave is my first choice.

I don't have any experience with the blast, I've just never had the opportunity to play with it, i'll keep my eye out for one though. I just bought a ST300 and I love it, it's just a little big for edc Lol.

I know what you mean about the mini-driver, it's kind of a love-hate thing because I've only used it once or twice but when I needed to it was a huge saver. It's just the least used implement on my wave.

As far as the skeletool goes, I like the design, the weight, and all the carry options it has but I don't edc it as much as I thought I would. If I don't care about the weight then I carry a slightly heavier and larger tool for more functionality. And when I do care about the size/weight I find myself just carrying a SAK. That being said I still really love the tool and I think it's a pretty innovative tool.

[Mercury]

@Mercury

I took no offense to it, and I didn't mean any in my post. It's a good forum because everyone can share their opinions. Everyone has different needs for their MT so a tool that might be perfect for some people may not suit another person as well. Also even though a wave is a wave, quality control is never the same on every tool made so my experiences are not going to be the same as everyone's.

I do agree the thumbhole is no spyderhole and I do like to carry a dedicated folder whenever I can. If i'm carrying a folder I don't care if my MT is OHO or not, actually my last 3 tools have all been "traditional" MT's. But when I can't carry a folder or if I don't want to then the wave is my first choice.

I don't have any experience with the blast, I've just never had the opportunity to play with it, i'll keep my eye out for one though. I just bought a ST300 and I love it, it's just a little big for edc Lol.

I know what you mean about the mini-driver, it's kind of a love-hate thing because I've only used it once or twice but when I needed to it was a huge saver. It's just the least used implement on my wave.

As far as the skeletool goes, I like the design, the weight, and all the carry options it has but I don't edc it as much as I thought I would. If I don't care about the weight then I carry a slightly heavier and larger tool for more functionality. And when I do care about the size/weight I find myself just carrying a SAK. That being said I still really love the tool and I think it's a pretty innovative tool.

No worries, I don't think anyone was offended here!   

I was just giving my (redundant) opinion and you know what they say about those... 

I believe I've kicked the proverbial dead horse with my thoughts on the wave, so I won't proffer any more until directly asked.  Or until it's mentioned in another thread and I've had a few too many!

I totally agree about the ST300.  It's a fantastic tool but for me at least is is too large for a comfortable EDC.  The blast fits my hands very well and since it has been on my belt for the longest, it stays there.

This forum IS a great place to voice your opinions and would be quite dull if all of the opinions on here were the same.

[TravisCM1]

I seem to have the newer version with the awl, but I don't understand the separate tiny screwdriver as a stand alone.  Upon looking at it two things come to mind.  One, why couldn't they have made a normal bit insert that has that small of a blade or philips head.  Second, if they wanted to keep the small metal pin, why not create an aluminum insert for the normal bit holder that just had the same hole as the small screw driver stand alone holder.  The stand alone is the same thickness if not thinner than the normal bits.  If they did that then the tiny screwdriver could be a some other big tool. Don't know what that would be, but the more the better.

EDIT:

I actually have a Surge, but the same thing applies to the Wave or any of the LM's with a bit holder.