That's nice!Do you have a CyberTool? I wonder what kind of metal the bit driver is made of (it has a different color)
VIC Cybertool is on my list, but not yet (don't have it, but will buy one )
Quote from: edcgear on September 22, 2010, 03:46:10 PMVIC Cybertool is on my list, but not yet (don't have it, but will buy one )Maybe someone will send you one for free so you can analyze it
Not gonna happen
Not even for a stack of porno.
Great idea, edcgear. Let's find out what these little evil red (or emerald green, like Benner's) marvels are made of, so we can blackmail Victorinox and ask for free SAK's (or a stack of porn) in order to keep their secret.
Very interesting. Victorinox have always been discreet about their steel recipe. Do these results surprise anyone? Does it approximate any other well-known steel?
Quote from: Jmora on September 22, 2010, 05:25:23 PMVery interesting. Victorinox have always been discreet about their steel recipe. Do these results surprise anyone? Does it approximate any other well-known steel?Eh? I'm pretty sure the steel used is published somewhere, even on their website.
I don't see anything on wikipedia, I was referring to the specific chemical composition of the steel. As long as I've been reading about SAKs I've been hearing people speculate about its composition (e.g. maybe the rust resistance is due to a high cadmium content etc). I have a history of being wrong about these things though and overlooking obvious facts.
Could the trace elements vary that much from batch to batch of stock material, randomly? (That is, could bottle openers from different batches show the same variation)
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on September 22, 2010, 04:36:18 PMCould the trace elements vary that much from batch to batch of stock material, randomly? (That is, could bottle openers from different batches show the same variation)That's kinda what I'm wondering. I.e. are all blades on all SAKs exactly the same, or (and I suspect this is more likely) does it just depend on which roll of steel they're stamped out of.Very cool BTW edcgear.
Quote from: Jmora on September 22, 2010, 06:30:51 PMI don't see anything on wikipedia, I was referring to the specific chemical composition of the steel. As long as I've been reading about SAKs I've been hearing people speculate about its composition (e.g. maybe the rust resistance is due to a high cadmium content etc). I have a history of being wrong about these things though and overlooking obvious facts. SteelThe martensitic stainless steel alloy used for the cutting blades is optimized for high toughness and corrosion resistance and has a composition of 15% chromium, 0.60% silicon, 0.52% carbon, 0.50% molybdenum, and 0.45% manganese and is designated X55CrMo14 or 1.4110 according to Victorinox. After a hardening process at 1040 °C and annealing at 160 °C the blades achieve an average blade steel hardness of 56 HRC. This steel hardness is suitable for practical use and easy resharpening, but less than achieved in stainless steel alloys used for blades optimized for high wear resistance.[6][7][8] According to Victorinox the martensitic stainless steel alloy used for the parts is X39Cr13 or 1.4031 and for the springs X20Cr13 or 1.4021.[9] The steel used for the wood saws, scissors and nail files has a steel hardness of HRC 53, the screwdrivers, tin openers and awls have a hardness of RC 52, and the corkscrew and springs have a hardness of HRC 49. The metal saws and files, in addition to the special case hardening, are also subjected to a hard chromium plating process so that iron and steel can also be filed and cut. The separators between the tools have been made from aluminium alloy since 1951. This makes the knives lighter. Previously these separating layers were made of nickel-silver.[10][11]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Army_knife#Steel
Interesting post, edcgear - one thing that would be really helpful is if you could post the carbon content, even though it's likely at or just under .5% - it would help nail down exactly which steel Vic is using in their blades.
For the abuse of expensive employer's equipment in the pursuit of trivia I salute you
Quote from: jekostas on September 22, 2010, 09:14:42 PMInteresting post, edcgear - one thing that would be really helpful is if you could post the carbon content, even though it's likely at or just under .5% - it would help nail down exactly which steel Vic is using in their blades.As a matter of fact I can't... This gadget does not pick up carbon... It's just the way thingy works... But one of the way is to make a sum out of percents stated and the rest to 100% we assume is carbon... Yup, I know its a little awkward, but...So as I have calculated before you have a sum arround 99,5-99,8% so it isn't a quality or high carbon steel... But concentracion of carbon from 0-2,06% makes austenit steel, and now we are going into pure science of materials (machine (or mechanical) materials - is literal translation from Serbian), and due to my lack of practical (or technical is better word maybe) knowledge of English maybe it will be good for anyone interested in subject to look on further pages:http://www.sunilsteel.com/influence.htm#Carbonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alloy_steelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_steelEnjoy!!