Where do I buy a telescopic baton in berlin?

[Lasse Eskildsen]

I'm traveling with bus to berlin in three months and would like to buy a telescopic baton from a good brand, I know there a quite a few from germany on this forum, could you suggest a shop in berlin where I could buy one? Last time I was there I saw a few in Wiedenhof in Europa-center, I am also going there this time but would like other possibilities aswell. Suggestions for knife-shops are also welcome, I am looking to spend max somewhere around 100$ / 50£ for it, is that reasonable? I dont realy know any brands but I dont want something that break if you hit the punching bags a few times with it, and it should hold up to being fired off quite a bit since I will probaly be playing with it alot 

By the way, before someone ask I realise that batons is ilegal in denmark and its a choice that I have willingly taken to get one. If this keeps you from coming with suggestions then that is totally alright, This topic may also be deleted if the mods dont want it up here.

Thanks alot

[ryan1835]

is it really worth it?

and what does a 15 year old need one for anyway 

[cerbera147]

There is a Dutch knife forum that has links to here 

It is in Dutch but also has an English section too

I know it's not Berlin but close enough that they may be able to help you out 

http://www.messenforum.nl/

Who wouldn't want a telescopic baton when they were 15?     

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

To be honest I think you'd be better of with a 2xAA/CR123 torch for self defence, as it gives you a few more options (blinding,impact, and restraining all being possible), plus is completely justifiable whereas a baton won't be

[PyroJames]

To be honest I think you'd be better of with a 2xAA/CR123 torch for self defence, as it gives you a few more options (blinding,impact, and restraining all being possible), plus is completely justifiable whereas a baton won't be

I agree with Mike.  It's better to carry a bright tactical light.  It's not as questionable as a collapsible baton.  Plus, a tactical light is more fun to play with than a baton.   

If you want something with a good reach, you can always carry a large 6 D cell Maglite; swinging one of those around will do the same amount of damage as swinging a hammer or baseball bat.

[cerbera147]

Get one of these and get it nice and sharp 


Or this 


More discussions here:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,17964.0.html

[PyroJames]

Get one of these and get it nice and sharp 

That assault crown is just... deadly. 

[AHB]

That assault defence crown is just... deadly. 

Fixed..    

And as the others said, go for a torch instead Lasse..

[cerbera147]

This isn't telescopic but may still be up to the job 



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[Lasse Eskildsen]

I already have a bat under the bed, its just a bit large and of aluminium 
I have considered a tactical flashlight, more specifically this one
http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=86&products_id=2466
But it has alot less reach than a baton for defending yourself. In case I should have to defend myself i would want to keep the attacker away, in that case a baton + steel-toed boots is quite usefull. It would mostly be for playing around with at home, but also for walking my dog at night. Sometimes I walk with a cold steel cane but find it somewhat cubersome. There's quite a few large aggressive dogs in the area. And also generally it would be nice to have something good to defend myself with when out and about in the night, like yesterday I got home from a concert at 2 in the night, and had to bicycle though a not so awesome neighborhood.
I'll check messerforum out, though the english section seemed very deserted.

[Medic82]

If you want to have some distance between someone that might attack you den I would rather use pepper spray/CS spray/isopropylalkohol depending on what’s legal in Denmark, at least spray that contains isopropylalkohol is 100% legal in Norway and Sweden so I would find it strange if it’s not legal in Denmark also. A baton can seriously hurt a person and you can get in trouble if you use it, in Norway and Sweden (probably in Denmark also) a baton is listed as a weapon so they will probably come down harder on you if you use it rather than a cane or flashlight.

[ryan1835]

over here you get searched at concerts, illegal baton .... getting searched...

id get light

[cerbera147]

I suppose with any 'self defence item' that requires close quarters there is always the risk it can be taken from you and used against you 

A small but powerful flashlight and a good pair running shoes should help in most situations 

Have you considered a tactical pen?

[Lasse Eskildsen]

Thanks for the replies. All kind of harmfull spray is ilegal in denmark and classified as a weapon aswell. I dont realy trust them either since I read quite alot of people say they dont work on drunk or high people. Blunt force trauma always does I would asume  There isnt alot of concerts here where you get searched, not the ones I go to atleast 100-300 people normally. And I could always keep it on the bicycle or throw it in a bush. I dont worry about getting in a fight at a concert, its mostly when going home. Else I can always stuff it down my ten-hole boot, 99% of the time its only the torso and upper legs which get searched.
I have looked a bit at tactical pens but I almost never use a pen (My hand-writing sucks) And I think they are too thin to get a good grip on, espescially with gloves.
I wouldnt use a pen or flashlight for pressure points since I'm not trained in that. But rather several fast jabs at the upper chest, ribs, collarbone, and forehead. Followed by a few kicks to the knees with steel-toes 

[cgk]

Thanks for the replies. All kind of harmfull spray is ilegal in denmark and classified as a weapon aswell. I dont realy trust them either since I read quite alot of people say they dont work on drunk or high people. Blunt force trauma always does I would asume  There isnt alot of concerts here where you get searched, not the ones I go to atleast 100-300 people normally. And I could always keep it on the bicycle or throw it in a bush. I dont worry about getting in a fight at a concert, its mostly when going home. Else I can always stuff it down my ten-hole boot, 99% of the time its only the torso and upper legs which get searched.
I have looked a bit at tactical pens but I almost never use a pen (My hand-writing sucks) And I think they are too thin to get a good grip on, espescially with gloves.
I wouldnt use a pen or flashlight for pressure points since I'm not trained in that. But rather several fast jabs at the upper chest, ribs, collarbone, and forehead. Followed by a few kicks to the knees with steel-toes 

I wasn't going to get involved here but....
Batons do not work very well on motivated individuals.  I have used an expandable baton a few times with poor results (legally).  I no longer carry a baton at all unless its for crowd control.  Pepper spray (though not 100 percent) does work better than a baton.  I am not making any suggestions other than, dont walk your dog in questionable neighborhoods at 2 in the morning.