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Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?

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Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
on: March 10, 2011, 07:47:36 PM
Just got this today and noticed it had no factory keyring?
This is the first time i've seen this and cannot find out much about it.
Does anyone know if other new Pioneer models have been found with no keyring either?



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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring ?
Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 08:37:50 PM
Don't know :think:  Though its possibe to remove the keyring without leaving it looking like its been removed.  Pain in the arse to do like but possible :)
I'm not taking any more mod orders at present, sorry.


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring ?
Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 08:45:16 PM
I did think that, but looking very close it looks like it has never been touched.  ???
I'll try and get a better photo.


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring ?
Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 09:26:56 PM
I did not even notice at first, but it also does not have the engraving area on the other side?
Strange?  :ahhh


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring ?
Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 10:22:51 PM
Do you have the box with a Vic-number on it ?


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring ?
Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 10:44:28 PM
Sorry, Did not come with a box.  :(
Maybe If I contact Victorinox they could help with info?


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 10:54:21 PM
I'm stumped, but whatever the case it's pretty slick!
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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 11:07:52 PM
It seems that most Pioneers have the engraving plate, but some don`t. But it`s surprising that it has no ring. It`s the first one I have seen. If it was made on purpose it has the number 0.8200.23 . Maybe Vic can give you answers.


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 09:10:08 PM
Any news about this one?


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #9 on: March 30, 2011, 09:17:26 PM
No reply yet from Victorinox.

SAKWiki lists the Pioneer variation as:

"4. It is also available without the keyring, but this variation is harder to find since one could get the nearly identical Soldier which does not have the keyring."

I still cannot find any info anywhere else yet.  :think:


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 10:05:05 PM
Swissbianco has this on the way soon.Pioneer with no keyring
Silver soldier with new logo.



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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 10:16:08 PM
Swissbianco has this on the way soon.Pioneer with no keyring
Silver soldier with new logo.

Yep, already have mine reserved from last month.  :salute:


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #12 on: March 31, 2011, 04:20:24 AM
Are you sure its not a mod?


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #13 on: March 31, 2011, 07:26:04 AM
Are you sure its not a mod?
The peening would be awesome then!


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #14 on: March 31, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
Are you sure its not a mod?

Not a mod that's for sure.
Looking at everything with a magnifying glass there is no evidence of that.
There are no marks anywhere or signs that it has been taken apart at all.

It looks exactly the same as my standard black pioneer in every way.
Apart from this one having no keyring or engraving plate.


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #15 on: March 31, 2011, 06:14:24 PM
I have a red one like this.  It happens to have a Soldier blade too.
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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #16 on: March 31, 2011, 07:35:28 PM
I have a red one like this.  It happens to have a Soldier blade too.

Could you post a photo here when you can?


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #17 on: April 02, 2011, 05:57:48 PM
I had forgotten that mine has the old silver cross scales.  None of those had the engraving area, so it's not the rarity yours is.



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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #18 on: April 02, 2011, 06:24:13 PM
It's easier to find the old models without a keyring. 

I hope we see them offer more new models with out the keyring, but especially without the engraving panel!


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #19 on: April 02, 2011, 07:00:29 PM
I had forgotten that mine has the old silver cross scales.  None of those had the engraving area, so it's not the rarity yours is.

Very nice. I have that one but with a standard blade only.


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #20 on: April 02, 2011, 08:25:34 PM
It's easier to find the old models without a keyring. 

I hope we see them offer more new models with out the keyring, but especially without the engraving panel!

I agree, I would love a newer Farmer with no keyring and panel to go with this one.
You never know what's out there I guess.  :think:


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #21 on: April 16, 2011, 11:42:05 PM
I have one new black and Jamie has one new black no keyring  pioneer.(cheap)
Now is an other used near new one at ebay for sale from swiss ($230) ???
The seller says it's from the late 70's early 80's.
Who knows what these are???

http://cgi.ebay.com/Taschenmesser-Victorinox-Swiss-Pocket-Knife-70ths-Rare-/350456256133?pt=Militaria&hash=item5198d21685



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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #22 on: April 17, 2011, 12:14:14 PM
I have one new black and Jamie has one new black no keyring  pioneer.(cheap)
Now is an other used near new one at ebay for sale from swiss ($230) ???
The seller says it's from the late 70's early 80's.
Who knows what these are???

http://cgi.ebay.com/Taschenmesser-Victorinox-Swiss-Pocket-Knife-70ths-Rare-/350456256133?pt=Militaria&hash=item5198d21685


Yep, that's the same as mine. Glad I did not pay anywhere near that price.  :o
I don't think it's that old as it has the new logo on the scales.




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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #23 on: April 17, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
I have one new black and Jamie has one new black no keyring  pioneer.(cheap)
Now is an other used near new one at ebay for sale from swiss ($230) ???
The seller says it's from the late 70's early 80's.
Who knows what these are???

http://cgi.ebay.com/Taschenmesser-Victorinox-Swiss-Pocket-Knife-70ths-Rare-/350456256133?pt=Militaria&hash=item5198d21685


Yep, that's the same as mine. Glad I did not pay anywhere near that price.  :o
I don't think it's that old as it has the new logo on the scales.

Correct, it looks like one of the recent 2005ish run Pioneers; definitely not from the 70s, and not worth that much, either. >.>


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #24 on: April 17, 2011, 09:39:02 PM
Looks to me to be from the 2011 run, since it has no panel on bottom.


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #25 on: April 17, 2011, 09:48:24 PM
Looks to me to be from the 2011 run, since it has no panel on bottom.

I didn't realize there's been a second run of black Pioneers - granted, with all the special runs, it's hard to keep up.  :ahhh


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #26 on: August 30, 2014, 01:39:25 PM


One like these?
Once you go black you never go back
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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #27 on: August 30, 2014, 01:54:15 PM
I'd actually love one without the keyring :D Whatever Victorinox. The keyrings just annoy me or, rather, the fact that they cannot be folded inside or hidden somehow.


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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #28 on: August 30, 2014, 01:58:19 PM
I like the bales on then better.

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Re: Black Pioneer - No keyring or engraving plate ?
Reply #29 on: September 07, 2014, 11:27:40 PM
My favorite! Just got one last week.


 

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