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Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?

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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #30 on: June 23, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
the 710 is a quality knife, I own 2 of them..I never carry them because  the pocket clips are tip down only...non starter for me


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #31 on: June 30, 2011, 07:01:44 AM
Even though SRM is OEM for big brands, they typically do not re-brand - the QC and goods are entirely different. For eg., Spyderco requires tight tolerances on their Byrd line, and SRM manufactures, and QCs' them differently than their $10 SRM-branded blades. I suspect the same thing for other brands as well.

For a $10 knife, they are good, but since a knife has a potential for damage, I have stopped using SRM knives, simply because I don't trust them to work when I want them to. I'd rather carry a Byrd, than an SRM. I'd say they have a place in the low-budget category, but definitely not to be trusted for difficult tasks. Okay for a beater knife around the house.


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #32 on: June 30, 2011, 10:10:41 AM
I disagree on that. SRM wants to be recognized as a quality brand, and I have the impression that the SRM branded knives are very close to Byrd and imported SOG and Kershaw. There are other SRM brands, like Land knives, that are slightly inferior to their SRM labelled siblings.

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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #33 on: June 30, 2011, 12:31:24 PM
For a $10 knife, they are good, but since a knife has a potential for damage, I have stopped using SRM knives, simply because I don't trust them to work when I want them to. I'd rather carry a Byrd, than an SRM. I'd say they have a place in the low-budget category, but definitely not to be trusted for difficult tasks. Okay for a beater knife around the house.

I've been using various SanRenMu knives for 6+ months now, including heavy use in the garden, shop and camping and they've held up exactly as a quality product should.

Before you make any generalizations on price, please consider the following facts:

The 2009 average income for urban Chinese was ~$12,000.
The 2009 average income for the US in the same period was a hair under $50,000 after tax.

SanRenMu knives are made, and priced, for the Chinese market.  This includes the labour (the little that there is), land costs, energy, raw materials, etc.

So... take whatever price you're paying in $US for a SanRenMu knife, multiply it by 4, and that's the equivalent value in the Chinese market. 


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #34 on: June 30, 2011, 08:06:06 PM
I use SRM knives, mainly the 763, for many of my cutting tasks. I think it depends on what people mean by hard tasks; I would not chop wood with the SRM, but then I would not chop wood with any knife. I have done some carving and cutting of sticks with it, opening boxes, food preparation etc when I had to and never felt shortchanged.

 I am also not aware of them cutting costs on their own branded knives, compared to the ones they make for others....

I do feel that their products are getting better all the time; they are definitely learning fast, that goes for other chinese makers like the ones that make the RR knives, and other US and European brands.
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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #35 on: July 01, 2011, 05:35:59 AM
Hmmmm, difficult tasks. Well I wouldn't baton a log with any folder but for any other task I can think of in my daily life any well constructed folding knife will work for me (heck my EDC is a Alox Classic and Cadet). Would I take a frame lock over a liner lock? Yep! An axis lock over a frame? Most likely. Would I take S30v steel over 8cr13mov? Errr yeah, a Sebenza over any Byrd knife? Of course.
 Both Srm & Enlan make good honest mid-range knives with perfectly safe reliable locks,good mid range steel, with acceptable fit and finish for everyday use at a very good price to the western markets.
Would I pocket my Sebenza over my Srm 710(the so called poor mans Sebenza) even though I could buy 40 710's for the same price? In most circumstances,of course.But thats has very little to do with actual performance, but everything to do with the dreaded KNIFE SNOBBERY.

+1 for Srm's I like and use them.


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #36 on: July 01, 2011, 05:47:12 AM
I think we all have a bit of knife snobbery to one degree or another. Just tonight at Academy i was looking down upon a brand i once liked. I saw a guy checking out that brand and i remember thinking to myself..poor guy throwing money away when ____ is a better buy/quality.
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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #37 on: July 01, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Hmmmm, difficult tasks. Well I wouldn't baton a log with any folder but for any other task I can think of in my daily life any well constructed folding knife will work for me (heck my EDC is a Alox Classic and Cadet). Would I take a frame lock over a liner lock? Yep! An axis lock over a frame? Most likely. Would I take S30v steel over 8cr13mov? Errr yeah, a Sebenza over any Byrd knife? Of course.
 Both Srm & Enlan make good honest mid-range knives with perfectly safe reliable locks,good mid range steel, with acceptable fit and finish for everyday use at a very good price to the western markets.
Would I pocket my Sebenza over my Srm 710(the so called poor mans Sebenza) even though I could buy 40 710's for the same price? In most circumstances,of course.But thats has very little to do with actual performance, but everything to do with the dreaded KNIFE SNOBBERY.

+1 for Srm's I like and use them.

my view here is pocketing any lock knife is iligal in the uk, its upto folk what they carry as far as im concerned but if i had to take the risk on getting a knife taken from me by the police and lose it i would rather a £10 710 over a £300 sebenza, if you collect knives then fare enough but for legal carry in the uk its a expensive knife to have with the risk of getting it taken ,  :-\ but one sweet knife  :D ill have to stick to my poor mans sebenza for now   :D


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #38 on: July 01, 2011, 09:42:47 AM
On that point I totally agree with you. The law is the law and anyway I get more pleasure from my Alox Saks than any other knives I own. I was in the garden all of  yesterday using an Elan El02b, (price £15.00) It work great and could not be bettered for the work I did. Not even by a Byrd!
The sebenza is a very expensive toy(in truth I don't see the value in the knife) after all how many times can you open and close a Knife :think: Would'nt sell it though. There's that knife snobbery again :-[
Back to the point for every day tasks lots of these Chinese branded models are awesome. There safe and functional and worth every penny.


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #39 on: July 01, 2011, 10:28:43 AM
On that point I totally agree with you. The law is the law and anyway I get more pleasure from my Alox Saks than any other knives I own. I was in the garden all of  yesterday using an Elan El02b, (price £15.00) It work great and could not be bettered for the work I did. Not even by a Byrd!
The sebenza is a very expensive toy(in truth I don't see the value in the knife) after all how many times can you open and close a Knife :think: Would'nt sell it though. There's that knife snobbery again :-[
Back to the point for every day tasks lots of these Chinese branded models are awesome. There safe and functional and worth every penny.

yeah i wouldnt sell as well if i had one, its anoying that you cant enjoy these knives fully in the uk, i get the laws but some times they are anoying, you enjoy the sebenza when you can, i would still backpack carry it on camping trips etc as i do my 710 or buck 112 as love them both,  :tu:


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #40 on: July 01, 2011, 11:18:47 AM
...and if you want something similar but bigger and with better steel...



still, for a bit more than the Navy (OK, a bit more than double the price...but still about $13 more, not including shipping) I got an 112 second, so really it all depends on what you define as low cost; above $20 there are more options available... Of course the 710 is usually under $5, so really good value, nothing comes close.
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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #41 on: July 01, 2011, 02:37:33 PM
...and if you want something similar but bigger and with better steel...

Nice!  Thanks for that pic - I was wondering what that knife was like!   :cheers:


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Reply #42 on: July 01, 2011, 07:50:28 PM
...and if you want something similar but bigger and with better steel...
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still, for a bit more than the Navy (OK, a bit more than double the price...but still about $13 more, not including shipping) I got an 112 second, so really it all depends on what you define as low cost; above $20 there are more options available... Of course the 710 is usually under $5, so really good value, nothing comes close.

that is cool,  :drool:  :tu:


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #43 on: July 01, 2011, 08:09:55 PM
They are on special for $9.99, you know where.... Of course 710s are on special too, for half of that...  :D
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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #44 on: July 09, 2011, 06:16:37 PM
Just got 2 SRM 710 units. Can't say I'm that frilled. I didn't like the opening system but specially the locking mechanism. Aside that and taking the price into consideration, no complains  :tu:

btw: bought from focalprice on jun27, delivered at my mailbox jul6, that's 8-9 calendar days. Not that slow.


(also in the mailbox was a spyderco ladybug which is just superb... the feeling about the 710 might have been influenced by this)


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #45 on: July 09, 2011, 07:47:34 PM
Just got 2 SRM 710 units. Can't say I'm that frilled. I didn't like the opening system but specially the locking mechanism. Aside that and taking the price into consideration, no complains  :tu:


What exactly don't you like about the opening or locking mechanisms?


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #46 on: July 09, 2011, 11:01:11 PM
Regarding the opening system, I've found difficult to OHO. It requires more force than I'm used to and it hurts the thumb a little. The ladybug, for example, is so small and yet very easy to open with a single hand.

As for the locking system it's difficult for me to explain... it doesn't make that solid "click" when the blade reaches its open position. Might be paranoia but it doesn't feel so robust as similar systems, like leatherman surge/charge.

Other minor note: people have said the blade is perfectly centered between the handles, and that is true on one of the units, but the other unit has the blade clearly closer to one side.


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #47 on: July 10, 2011, 09:33:07 AM
I have bought a few 710 and, as you said, I have one that did not originally make a very satisfying "click" noise, like the rest of them.

I worked on it a bit with a file and it was OK afterwards. You can also adjust the pivot screws if they are a bit tight or off centre. 
And, of course, you are talking about a knife that costs about 6 Euro including shipping...

I now usually carry a 763, similar blade size, lighter, axis lock and bottle opener!! Only slightly more expensive.
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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #48 on: July 10, 2011, 01:41:54 PM
Ive fiddle with my 710 and i can flick it out easy with my thumb, infact my step brother was around the other day looking at my knives and i got the 710 out and flicked it out so quick he thought it was a flick knife  :D


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #49 on: July 11, 2011, 03:34:41 AM
I have and use a 710 and I found it a little more tricky to master the technique to oho this knife. However once I got it, I found it to open as quickly and smoothly as anything I've ever handled. As for the locking system, my example has from day one snapped into place with a reassuring THWACK!, and once locked up it feels very solid and safe. But I've also read on other forums of the concerns Carlos is talking about, and as dks has said in his experience it can vary from knife to knife. This is not just a problem for Srm though, many more expensive knives have the same issues, I'm thinking the H.E.S.T. folder, when it comes to poor lock up, or Striders, with centring issues for example.
No matter what the price any fault with a knife is really disappointing, but easier to live with on a srm than the other two I've mentioned thats for sure.


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #50 on: July 12, 2011, 10:26:20 AM
the 710 is my favorite.
but there is also one that is kinda like the 710 but smaller that I have by SRM and it is awesome too.
i own about 7 SRM knives and all are great at a really low price.
there are the best cheap knives I have come across.
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Reply #51 on: July 12, 2011, 10:30:35 AM
Im a fan of the 710  ::)

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nice pic. makes me want to carry the 710 tomorrow. =)
it is somewhat slim and fits in the pocket perfect for me.
not to heavy, but not to light.
its really perfect to me.

I ran mine through the sharpmaker and its razor sharp too! =)
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Reply #52 on: July 12, 2011, 11:44:56 AM
Im a fan of the 710  ::)

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nice pic. makes me want to carry the 710 tomorrow. =)
it is somewhat slim and fits in the pocket perfect for me.
not to heavy, but not to light.
its really perfect to me.

I ran mine through the sharpmaker and its razor sharp too! =)

cheers mate, i love the 710 and its a shame its not uk legal as i would use it as my main edc knife,  :-\


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Reply #53 on: July 13, 2011, 12:25:45 PM
Im a fan of the 710  ::)

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nice pic. makes me want to carry the 710 tomorrow. =)
it is somewhat slim and fits in the pocket perfect for me.
not to heavy, but not to light.
its really perfect to me.

I ran mine through the sharpmaker and its razor sharp too! =)

cheers mate, i love the 710 and its a shame its not uk legal as i would use it as my main edc knife,  :-\

sorry to hear that. mine has been EDCed a lot.
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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #54 on: July 21, 2011, 09:45:24 PM
For the money they are hard to beat , the one with the axis type lock looks good.
I have personal exp with the Sebbie type one ( forget the model ) think it's the 710 prob wrong , solid lock up , easy to sharpen and you won't worry about putting it through the mill


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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #55 on: July 23, 2011, 07:08:32 AM
Im a fan of the 710  ::)

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dose it realy compair to a CR
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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #56 on: July 23, 2011, 02:51:33 PM
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dose it realy compair to a CR

It's $8.

Does a Toyota compare to a Jaguar?  They're both cars after all.

This is an unbelievable $8 knife.  It would be great at $30, up to $50 imo.

It shouldn't be compared to a CR - it's not a CR.  The form is inspired ( ;)) by CR so it forces comparisons, but the CR is in a much different class at a much different price.

Still, get this one for $8.  You won't be disappointed.


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Reply #57 on: July 23, 2011, 03:25:53 PM
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dose it realy compair to a CR

It's $8.

Does a Toyota compare to a Jaguar?  They're both cars after all.

This is an unbelievable $8 knife.  It would be great at $30, up to $50 imo.

It shouldn't be compared to a CR - it's not a CR.  The form is inspired ( ;)) by CR so it forces comparisons, but the CR is in a much different class at a much different price.

Still, get this one for $8.  You won't be disappointed.

+1 very well put  :tu:

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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #58 on: July 23, 2011, 08:33:47 PM
Does a Toyota compare to a Jaguar?  They're both cars after all.


The following post has to be read with the sense of humour switched on..
I am confused, is the SRM represented by the Japanese or the  ;) Indian car ??  :D

Sir William Lyons is spinning in his grave......

It may surprise most people but I have never (so far) seen an actual CR knife (apart from pictures), or even heard of them (shocking, I know), before I bought some SRMs. I do admit that their lines (710) are similar if you squint a bit, but people buy both knives on their own merit, not because they look similar.
I am sure not many people will claim their SRM is a CR or vice versa (to appear humble to others).
If you look at “classic” knives (Canoes, Sodbusters etc, many lockbacks and so on) they have similar lines and that is accepted as the norm.
Nobody has to buy a 710, there are other SRM etc models that offer cheap price and good quality (e.g. The 723, though it reminds me of something.. is better looking than the 710 and is not similar to CR knives..).
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Re: Are SANRENMU (SRM) knives any good?
Reply #59 on: July 23, 2011, 08:54:14 PM
i wasnt verry clear i ment damention wise width length they look very simaler iv never handled ither
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