Ok school me on a Spyderco

[bladechick777]

You Can Get An Endura For Cheap On The USA Amazon.

Also.. To Answer Your Spring Assisted Knife Question...
Kershaw Leek
Kershaw Rake
Kershaw Shallot
Kershaw Blur
Kershaw Zing
Kershaw Asset
Kershaw Tremor
Kershaw Needs Work
Kershaw Speedbump
Kershaw Boa
Kershaw Turbulence
Kershaw Packrat
ZT 0300 Series
ZT 0350
ZT 0400

[50ft-trad]

I think you're doing the right thing by seeking an iconic Spydie - something that defines what that company is about, but if you like it try to resist the pull to go back there for the next couple of knives. Nothing against Spydies whatsoever - I just think you benefit from trying a diverse range.

You might end up going back to Spyderco's for eveything afterwards, or you might find some real treasures elsewhere. My most carried folding knives are currently Byrd, Nieto & A.Wrights - for no other reason than those knives work the best for me ... and lets face it two of those don't get many mentions anywhere. Popular isn't always best   

[bladechick777]

Well, I Agree With Trad, But Also... It Depends On The Knife From The Company.
You May Love The Spyderco Endura, But Hate The Pacific Salt Or Something.
Then You May Buy A Benchmade Griptilian, But Hate The Benchmade 960.
Then You May Love The ZT 0350 But Hate The 0200, Etc.

It's Good To Keep Variety, And You'll Soon Learn Your Favorite Brands And Your Favorite Type Of Knives.

[asupernothing]

You May Love The Spyderco Endura, But Hate The Pacific Salt Or Something.

I would also agree with the idea of trying different brands, as well as different models from those brands.

Its also hard not to like the Pacific Salt.
The Pacific Salt is essentially an endura done in H1. There are minor differences, such as a different clip, but its pretty much the same.

[bladechick777]

Lol The Pacific Salt Was Just An Example.
I Mean Like He Could Like One Knife From A Brand And Completely Dislike Another.

So Different Brands Are Good.

Also I've Heard H1 Has Poor Edge Retention And Such. Plus It Doesn't Come In FFG Like The Endura Now Does Either Lol. Maybe One Day It Will.

[asupernothing]

LOL I know what you meant, I was just teasing a bit.

You are right on the H1 with poor edge retention, though it is still pretty close to 440c. My understanding is that it is a cold worked steel, so it doesn't get hardened the same way as the other steels we are used to. That being said it is also supposedly a work hardening steel, though I haven't used it enough to be able to tell.

I think the FFG endura/delica was meant to be a limited run that just did so well that they kept it. (my understanding of what happened, I could be wrong)

[jekostas]

Also I've Heard H1 Has Poor Edge Retention And Such. Plus It Doesn't Come In FFG Like The Endura Now Does Either Lol. Maybe One Day It Will.

Plain edge H1 retention is somewhere between AUS-6 and AUS-8.  Serrated is closer to 440C.

As for grinds... due to the way H1 hardens it *can't* be flat ground due to the way the steel hardens when worked, at least on a commercial scale.

[bladechick777]

With All Of The Knife Masters Out There... I'm Sure They Could Figure Out How To Do Flat Ground H1.

[jekostas]

With All Of The Knife Masters Out There... I'm Sure They Could Figure Out How To Do Flat Ground H1.

H1 can be flat ground, but not on a commercial scale.  A guy like Tom Krein can do one-offs, but apparently with H1 you have to constantly cool the knife as well as grind a little bit off of each side at a time.  That's way, way too time and tool intensive if you're doing big runs of knives.

[Potassium Hydroxide]

Plain edge H1 retention is somewhere between AUS-6 and AUS-8.  Serrated is closer to 440C.

How does AUS8 compare to 440C?

[asupernothing]

Plain edge H1 retention is somewhere between AUS-6 and AUS-8.  Serrated is closer to 440C.

How does AUS8 compare to 440C?

pretty close