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Rust Resistance Test

us Offline Lynn LeFey

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Rust Resistance Test
on: April 03, 2014, 10:29:07 PM
So, I got the Camillus Les Stroud MT in today.

And decided to test it's Titanium Bonded (TM,R, C,U,K) coating against...

A Victorinox Supertinker I got used off of ebay. It had sand in it, and some surface corrosion when I got it. I rubbed it off with 2000 grit sandpaper.

A Leatherman Wingman. This tool's beadblasted finish has made its rust resistance very questionable.

And finally, a Rebar. This is pretty much a standard finish on other leatherman tools.

I soaked a little piece of paper towel in salt water, and taped it to the tools in little plastic baggies. Maybe not exactly airtight, but that's okay. I'll give it a few days, and see how they all do.

I used the flat drivers on all of them, since i figured those would be the easiest to remove rust from, should it form. Except for the Les tool. The file on the flat driver seemed like a problem, so I used the can opener instead.


Let... the oxidation... BEGIN!



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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #1 on: April 03, 2014, 10:52:28 PM
Might just be me, but I have a feeling nothing's serious gonna happen to the tools. Maybe a few spots, that'll come off with a good wipe with a clean cloth. But I'm definitely following this one. :)


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #2 on: April 03, 2014, 10:55:04 PM
I can't watch!  :dwts:
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #3 on: April 03, 2014, 10:58:15 PM
Might just be me, but I have a feeling nothing's serious gonna happen to the tools. Maybe a few spots, that'll come off with a good wipe with a clean cloth. But I'm definitely following this one. :)

If nothing happens in a few days, I'll reset the test, and use big plastic food containers wit ha LOT more liquid and punch the drivers through the lids.

I honestly don't know what's going to happen either. There may not be enough moisture, or oxygen in those little baggies. Dunno.

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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 12:30:17 AM
I'm interested to see what happens as well! By the way, thank you fpr the Les Strout MT test! It was worse than I expected, so thank you for wasting your money on our education!  :salute:

I would think, there has to be enough Oxigen as well as electrolytes to start rusting. But we will see in a few days. I have some ideas if salsmurfer alone doesn't do anything.  :think:


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 12:32:09 AM
I would think, there has to be enough Oxigen as well as electrolytes to start rusting. But we will see in a few days. I have some ideas if salsmurfer alone doesn't do anything.  :think:

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You might want to put a space into 'salt water'. Otherwise the naughty-filter mangles it.

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EDIT: Same with 'pocket watch'.


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #6 on: April 04, 2014, 12:33:09 AM
I am looking forward to the results of this test, and to your thoughts on the Les Stroud tool once it gets some use.  :D

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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #7 on: April 04, 2014, 01:47:12 AM
In comparison, that Camillus Les Stroud tool looks awfully cheap based on general shape. This should be interesting to see what sort of results you will get.
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #8 on: April 04, 2014, 01:51:00 AM
My money is on the Vic for the win! :D

The best way to get rust (if you arent getting any action) is to make sure the metal surfaces have constant droplets on them.  Thats what forms electrochemical cell that pumps out the rust.

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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #9 on: April 04, 2014, 02:00:18 AM
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #10 on: April 04, 2014, 02:04:42 AM

I am looking forward to the results of this test, and to your thoughts on the Les Stroud tool once it gets some use.  :D

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I bet you are rooting for the Wingman eh??


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #11 on: April 04, 2014, 02:18:00 AM
I refuse to comment on that as I have been told in the past that the rust I found on my Wingman was imaginary.

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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #12 on: April 04, 2014, 03:42:24 AM
I'm very interested in the results you're going to get here.  That Wingman that rusted looked like the rust "flowed" from the axles,which would make sense because you've got a really great anode and cathode there; the brass bushing in the axle assembly and the steel body of the tool.  Here, you don't have dissimilar metals. I bet if you soaked the whole tools in salt water you'd get much more corrosion in all cases, but it would damage or destroy all of them.  I know you wouldn't give a smurf about the Les Stroud "tool," but the others are actually quality stuff.

I can tell you horror stories about corrosion, as can most aviation maintenance technicians. *movie trailer voiceover* In a world made out of 2024 aluminum held together with steel rivets, water becomes the enemy.
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #13 on: April 04, 2014, 03:43:54 AM

I refuse to comment on that as I have been told in the past that the rust I found on my Wingman was imaginary.

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Hmmm, I thought it was the Wingman found on the rust that was imaginary.


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #14 on: April 04, 2014, 04:05:50 AM
Cool test Lynn :tu:  I'm curious to see how it turns out, especially with the Rebar and Wingman since I own both.
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #15 on: April 04, 2014, 05:07:50 AM
I can tell you that my Rebar, just through regular use, developed some compleyely cosmetic rust spots on the plier jaws...and nowhere else.

I think it makes the tool look (forgive the expression) manlier. It's like my Rebar has Indiana Jones stubble.


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #16 on: April 04, 2014, 05:12:59 AM
I can tell you that my Rebar, just through regular use, developed some compleyely cosmetic rust spots on the plier jaws...and nowhere else.

I think it makes the tool look (forgive the expression) manlier. It's like my Rebar has Indiana Jones stubble.
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #17 on: April 04, 2014, 05:26:56 AM
I can tell you that my Rebar, just through regular use, developed some compleyely cosmetic rust spots on the plier jaws...and nowhere else.

I think it makes the tool look (forgive the expression) manlier. It's like my Rebar has Indiana Jones stubble.
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You guys know which tools don't have a speck of rust on them? Coghlan or Campy. I'm totally serious.


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #18 on: April 04, 2014, 07:30:05 AM
I would think, there has to be enough Oxigen as well as electrolytes to start rusting. But we will see in a few days. I have some ideas if salsmurfer alone doesn't do anything.  :think:

 :rofl:

You might want to put a space into 'salt water'. Otherwise the naughty-filter mangles it.

 :rofl:

EDIT: Same with 'pocket watch'.

Oh man, didn't see this yesterday  :rofl:
But salsmurfer smurfs up the tools, feels kind of appropriate in this sentence.  :rofl:


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #19 on: April 04, 2014, 07:35:03 AM
If the Vic Rusts, I'm eating its toothpick  ::)
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #20 on: April 04, 2014, 09:39:57 AM
If the Vic Rusts, I'm eating its toothpick  ::)


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #21 on: April 04, 2014, 05:42:49 PM
You guys know which tools don't have a speck of rust on them? Coghlan or Campy. I'm totally serious.

They would have to be made of actual metal to rust. :D


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #22 on: April 04, 2014, 06:06:43 PM
You guys know which tools don't have a speck of rust on them? Coghlan or Campy. I'm totally serious.

They would have to be made of actual metal to rust. :D

Thats what I was going to say.  Recycled pop can blades wont rust. :D  You need iron in there somewhere.
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #23 on: April 04, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
You guys know which tools don't have a speck of rust on them? Coghlan or Campy. I'm totally serious.

They would have to be made of actual metal to rust. :D

Thats what I was going to say.  Recycled pop can blades wont rust. :D  You need iron in there somewhere.

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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #24 on: April 05, 2014, 12:05:56 AM
AND...

We have a winner in the 'first to rust' competition.

Probably not the standard guess, either.

The Rebar, after only about 24 hours. Small spots forming on the flat head driver.


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #25 on: April 05, 2014, 12:08:19 AM
Cool. :D  I would have guessed wingman first, but rebar is still a leatherman.  Someday Im going to take my rebar apart and put a high polish on all the tools.  I think that would help it.
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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #26 on: April 05, 2014, 12:09:30 AM
I would have ALSO guessed the Wingman first, from its reputation, but alas, the real world rarely agrees with me on what I think the real world is like. :D


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #27 on: April 05, 2014, 12:18:59 AM
This isn't a huge surprise for me. My Rebar developed its light patina spots within its first week of use, and all on the least-polished parts of the pliers.

In case anyone's wondering, my dearly departed Wave (I should really send it in to get it reparted) has no rust on it at all, and it spent more than its fair share of time in Jothra's-waist-deep water doing multi-pliery stuff. Legit.


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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #28 on: April 05, 2014, 12:37:25 AM
A Leatherman with rust?  I'm shocked!  :o













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Re: Rust Resistance Test
Reply #29 on: April 05, 2014, 12:55:33 AM
Maybe a leatherman test only could be done to see how different models fare. Ive read all the rust reports but my mut seems to be very resistant. When i do long travels with my motorcycle which is often i carry it in my waist under my jacket. There were some very rainy months here and my mut survived more than one trip soaking wet in its poach and i mean 6 hour rides totally wet.


 

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