154cm or s30v as jaw material

[raptor]

since the jaw is the most important part of the multitool,it deserves the best material,doesn't it? leatherman should do something.

[Spoonrobot]

154cm or S30V would not be a very good jaw material. It's good for knives but as I understand it does not handle the forces typically exerted on a plier head very well. That, and knowing the price of S30V it would make most tools really expensive!

[Leatherman123]

Yeah, and S30v can chip easily. It's similar to the Tungsten Carbide wire cutters found on various Gerber tools.. It is so hard it is prone to chipping!

[Poncho65]

There was a similar post about using tool grade steel on the plier heads but I can't remeber where it is I think that MT plier heads do deserve a stonger steel in them though

[ultimaonliner]

When are we going to see titanium used in more parts than just decorative scales?

[Spoonrobot]

When are we going to see titanium used in more parts than just decorative scales?

Probably never on a mass-production level, it's too expensive and doesn't work very well in tool applications.

[Poncho65]

When are we going to see titanium used in more parts than just decorative scales?

Probably never on a mass-production level, it's too expensive and doesn't work very well in tool applications.

I remember  a similar post somewhere can you remember where it's at Spoon also remember you answering someone else who said that about titanium

[ultimaonliner]

Price of titanium will more than likely plummet.  I have no idea when, but it will, just like aluminum was considered a precious metal a century ago.

Titanium, unpurified, is plentiful.  In any case, I think there would be a small market for enthusiasts to pay today's $40/lb cost of titanium to have a multitool using a lot of it.

I bet almost everybody on this forum would go for it

[brandonc223]

Price of titanium will more than likely plummet.  I have no idea when, but it will, just like aluminum was considered a precious metal a century ago.

Titanium, unpurified, is plentiful.  In any case, I think there would be a small market for enthusiasts to pay today's $40/lb cost of titanium to have a multitool using a lot of it.

I bet almost everybody on this forum would go for it

I've heard that compared to hardened tool steel, titanium is relatively weak, with a hardness only around the mid fourties on the rockwell scale?

[Spoonrobot]

I'm not sure they would go for the required increase in overall size though. As far as I have been able to find, the best titanium alloys still require twice the thickness for a given piece to be as strong as steel. The overall savings is weight, not size. Now, I'm trying to find out more on how titanium alloys perform in tool roles but the information is hard to find and it still seems like it wouldn't work very well.

Maybe an email to these guys is in order; they may be able to help clue us in to the potential of using this alloy. They make all manner of tools and they look to be comparable size to other tools so maybe there's something I'm missing.

http://www.imprex.net/

[Grant Lamontagne]

I have talked to the owner of Mission Knives about an all titanium multitool, and he dispelled a few notions I had about it.  Titanium isn't that expensive, it's just the US mined/refined variety that's expensive.  It's also the fourth most common element in the Earth's crust.

I really don't remember most of the rest of the conversation- John's one of those guys that is really easy to talk to, but his knowledge on the subject of titanium (and many other topics!) is encyclopedic, and if you can retain a small percentage of the info he gives you, you are lucky!

It's been a while since I talked to him... maybe I should give him a call again and see how he's doing.

Def

[ringzero]

When are we going to see titanium used in more parts than just decorative scales?

Probably never on a mass-production level, it's too expensive and doesn't work very well in tool applications.

Spoonrobot, aren't there titanium knives available?

I.e. knives with titanium blade and handle both.

I've never owned one, but seem to remember seeing them.

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[Leatherman123]

I have one from when I used to scuba dive. It is a UnderWater Kinetics Blue Tang Titanium Dive knife- http://www.joediveramerica.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=30064&Affiliate=froogle

[Anthony]

I'm happy with the "regular" steel pliers on my tools, haven't had a problem with any yet

[ringzero]

I have one from when I used to scuba dive. It is a UnderWater Kinetics Blue Tang Titanium Dive knife- http://www.joediveramerica.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=30064&Affiliate=froogle

Thanks for the link, Leatherman123.

Is it a decent knife?  Aside from being corrosion resistant, is it OK for general usage?

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