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Offline Leatherman123

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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2008, 04:46:25 PM »
Yeah, I would say so.. The line cutter is great thing to have and the serrations on the back work great!
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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2008, 05:09:43 PM »
When are we going to see titanium used in more parts than just decorative scales?

Probably never on a mass-production level, it's too expensive and doesn't work very well in tool applications.


Spoonrobot, aren't there titanium knives available?

I.e. knives with titanium blade and handle both.

I've never owned one, but seem to remember seeing them.

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Yup, both Def and Leatherman123 mentioned some of the more familiar brands; Mission knives and UnderWater Kinetics. My statement was relevant to multi-tool use only. There are lots of different ways to use titanium in tools/knives, one of the most popular and familiar are the scales and frame lock of the Sebenza. I'm very interested about the potential but searching has yet to yield much that is relevant to us.

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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2008, 05:51:57 PM »
When are we going to see titanium used in more parts than just decorative scales?

Probably never on a mass-production level, it's too expensive and doesn't work very well in tool applications.


Spoonrobot, aren't there titanium knives available?

I.e. knives with titanium blade and handle both.

I've never owned one, but seem to remember seeing them.

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Yup, both Def and Leatherman123 mentioned some of the more familiar brands; Mission knives and UnderWater Kinetics. My statement was relevant to multi-tool use only. There are lots of different ways to use titanium in tools/knives, one of the most popular and familiar are the scales and frame lock of the Sebenza. I'm very interested about the potential but searching has yet to yield much that is relevant to us.


I'd buy a lightweight titanium multi if one was available.

Maybe something like a titanium LM PST or SOG PPP.

Just basic multitool functionality but weighing in at 2 to 3 ounces instead of 5 ounces.

There'd be a market for such a lightweight tool among backpackers, moutaineers, etc.  Probably also would sell to salt water fisherman for its improved corrosion resistance.

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Offline raptor

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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2008, 06:03:30 PM »
Is titanium strong enough?  :-\

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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2008, 07:06:14 PM »
Here's some links for further reading:

http://www.evertibikes.com/why_titanium.htm

http://swordforum.com/metallurgy/titanium.html

Also: Pliers aside, would the wirecutters made of titanium be able to handle hard wire cutting with the same amount of strenght or would a Gerber-replaceble carbide bit system be more effective?


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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2008, 07:43:20 PM »
Here's some links for further reading:

http://www.evertibikes.com/why_titanium.htm

http://swordforum.com/metallurgy/titanium.html

Also: Pliers aside, would the wirecutters made of titanium be able to handle hard wire cutting with the same amount of strenght or would a Gerber-replaceble carbide bit system be more effective?





If necessary to get the plier strength equivalent to steel, pliers and pivot could be made somewhat thicker.

If you wanted decent hard wire cutters - which you would if the tool was to be marketed to fishermen - replacable cutters like Gerber's would probably be the way to go.

For a backpacking/mountaineering model, you could leave off the replacable cutters and sell it a little cheaper.

If decently made, I think a backpacking model would sell pretty darned well.  Lots of fishermen would probably buy a titanium, corrosion-proof multi just to have the latest in cool toys.

Right now the lightest full size multis available weigh in at 5 to 6 ounces - LM Kick and SOG PPP.  Some backpackers don't carry a multi just because of the weight issue.

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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2008, 09:52:02 PM »
There was a similar post about using tool grade steel on the plier heads but I can't remeber where it is :think:


Is this the thread you were thinking of?

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,5025.0.html

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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2008, 10:04:48 PM »
I'm happy with the "regular" steel pliers on my tools, haven't had a problem with any yet :D

That actually leads me on to my question.  Have people had problems with the pliers steel then?
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Re: 154cm or s30v as jaw material
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2008, 11:31:54 PM »
There was a similar post about using tool grade steel on the plier heads but I can't remeber where it is :think:


Is this the thread you were thinking of?

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,5025.0.html


 
Thanks I believe that this is 1 of the post I was thinking of but I am must also be thinking of another post as well at least now I know I am crossing 2 into 1  :salute:
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