Leathermans new line of pocket tools (10 of them)

Etherealicer · **Reply #60 on:** May 27, 2014, 05:14:55 PM

Quote from: Mango808 on May 27, 2014, 04:41:45 PM

In terms of the Cap lifter on these BTN tools, they seem to be made with the same shape as the Brewzer/Piranha/Croc. Which means they could also be used to hold a 1/4" hex bit or turn a 1/4" hex nut or bolt if needed.

I get that some people don't like cap lifters (as they can be redundant), but it's there and doesn't have to be used or thought of as useless. One could always take a round file and or dremel grinder (rotary) tool to turn it into a belt/strap cutter.

I do not disagree with you, but if they made a 1/4" hex hole instead of the cap lifter it would loose one (highly redundant) function but at the same time smoothing the outline of the tool making it more pocket friendly.
I actually like the idea of a strap cutter (not for me, I'm more for smooth outer line). But, I think this is what bothers me, they didn't play around more.

P.S.: How is the box cutter on #4 supposed to work?

Aloha · **Reply #61 on:** May 27, 2014, 05:24:37 PM

Quote from: Etherealicer on May 27, 2014, 05:14:55 PM

Quote from: Mango808 on May 27, 2014, 04:41:45 PM
In terms of the Cap lifter on these BTN tools, they seem to be made with the same shape as the Brewzer/Piranha/Croc. Which means they could also be used to hold a 1/4" hex bit or turn a 1/4" hex nut or bolt if needed.

I get that some people don't like cap lifters (as they can be redundant), but it's there and doesn't have to be used or thought of as useless. One could always take a round file and or dremel grinder (rotary) tool to turn it into a belt/strap cutter.
I do not disagree with you, but if they made a 1/4" hex hole instead of the cap lifter it would loose one (highly redundant) function but at the same time smoothing the outline of the tool making it more pocket friendly.
I actually like the idea of a strap cutter (not for me, I'm more for smooth outer line). But, I think this is what bothers me, they didn't play around more.

P.S.: How is the box cutter on #4 supposed to work?

Like the one on the Croc, with brute force

. Its not sharpened so it will work like a house key simply by pressing it into the tape and forcing metal against material thats softer. In reality any side of the tool can open a taped box by the same reasoning.

Mango808 · **Reply #62 on:** May 27, 2014, 05:53:58 PM

The Box Opener on #4 suppose to work like the one on #6 and #10. But from the looks of it, they don't look quite right. I think they were suppose to have a curve above (towards the tip/scraper end) like the one on the Piranha/Croc and Brewzer to form a tip (like a key ridge) to cut/puncture the tape on a box.

To make it more pocket friendly, you could either put tape over the bottle opener or slide a 1 inch heat shrink tube piece over it.

Kampfer · **Reply #63 on:** May 27, 2014, 08:20:19 PM

I re-profiled the cutter on Croc, it works well.

BIG-TARGET · **Reply #64 on:** May 28, 2014, 04:41:03 PM

Heads up guy and gals!
Leatherman has put the "BY THE NUMBERS SERIES" on Facebook!!
(They must have heard us

)
https://www.facebook.com/leathermanusa

take a look. They even put a little "challenge on it:
"
Have you guys heard about the By The Numbers PocketTools yet? We launched them! They are feedback generated keychain pocket tools. Once you buy one, you simply go to our website and tell us what you love or hate about them on the feedback page! Ideas? Share with us there also. The idea is you guys HELP us create the next round, we want to listen to you. Number 1-10 are live on our website now, check them out by following the link. Can't wait to hear what you think!"

Hmmmmmm!

me thinks..in a way,,, we've been given a challenge!

Etherealicer · **Reply #65 on:** May 28, 2014, 05:07:59 PM

Quote from: Aloha007 on May 27, 2014, 05:24:37 PM

Quote from: Etherealicer on May 27, 2014, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: Mango808 on May 27, 2014, 04:41:45 PM
In terms of the Cap lifter on these BTN tools, they seem to be made with the same shape as the Brewzer/Piranha/Croc. Which means they could also be used to hold a 1/4" hex bit or turn a 1/4" hex nut or bolt if needed.

I get that some people don't like cap lifters (as they can be redundant), but it's there and doesn't have to be used or thought of as useless. One could always take a round file and or dremel grinder (rotary) tool to turn it into a belt/strap cutter.
I do not disagree with you, but if they made a 1/4" hex hole instead of the cap lifter it would loose one (highly redundant) function but at the same time smoothing the outline of the tool making it more pocket friendly.
I actually like the idea of a strap cutter (not for me, I'm more for smooth outer line). But, I think this is what bothers me, they didn't play around more.

P.S.: How is the box cutter on #4 supposed to work?

Like the one on the Croc, with brute force . Its not sharpened so it will work like a house key simply by pressing it into the tape and forcing metal against material thats softer. In reality any side of the tool can open a taped box by the same reasoning.

Thats what I thought, but in most of the other tools (especially #6) it looks like the box opener is much thinner like a incisor, whereas in #4 its just a molar.

BTW, does this mean a key is by definition a MT. It can lock/unlock locks open boxes and scratch the lottery ticket (and car paint).

nervium · **Reply #66 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:47:06 PM

my brewzer is enough for me, always on my keychain. i do not think i will spend more on these type of tool.

n4vgm · **Reply #67 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:52:33 PM

Quote from: ducttapetech on May 24, 2014, 01:08:12 PM

I like the Leatherman 4.

Ditto (very tempted)

n4vgm · **Reply #68 on:** May 30, 2014, 12:46:09 AM

Just ordered a #4, the design is one I was wanting with the pocket clip function. Whether it will work for that I'll let you know when I arrives but for $13 including shipping and limited run I could not resist!

I was also annoyed when I learned NO Paypal.

Kampfer · **Reply #69 on:** May 30, 2014, 12:57:35 AM

Quote from: n4vgm on May 30, 2014, 12:46:09 AM

Just ordered a #4, the design is one I was wanting with the pocket clip function. Whether it will work for that I'll let you know when I arrives but for $13 including shipping and limited run I could not resist!

I was also annoyed when I learned NO Paypal.

Pocket clip??? I don't think it is going to work as one because it is designed to retain the bit in position. I don't have #4 but I have Piranha 2.

Breezy12 · **Reply #70 on:** May 30, 2014, 06:12:22 AM

sooo... a full set of all 10 tools arrived today.

I apologize for the poor photo quality, but I'm sure Chako will provide much nicer pics when they arrive at his doorstep.

one of the things I was most curious about was the size, since I didn't see any dimensions listed on LM's site.

turns out they're about the size I was expecting (Vic Classic, LM Squirt and carabiner included for size reference).

I can't say I'm thrilled with any of these tools, but this campaign is certainly an interesting way to do some market research. I thought the 5 had the most potential, but it feels like it would be uncomfortable in the pocket. I think I'll stick with my Chopper.

Chako · **Reply #71 on:** May 30, 2014, 12:11:12 PM

n4vgm · **Reply #72 on:** May 30, 2014, 05:14:44 PM

"Pocket clip??? I don't think it is going to work as one because it is designed to retain the bit in position. I don't have #4 but I have Piranha 2."

I know, but I can dream, can't I?

Still a handy thing, especially since there is air travel in my future.

enki_ck · **Reply #73 on:** May 30, 2014, 05:20:00 PM

Looking at them with some size references (thanks for that

), I think those wrenches are a bit too big for stuff I'd use a keychain/pocket OPT for.

Not small enough for the bolts it could handle and not enough grip/levarage for the big wrench sizes it has on it.

I'd be perfectly happy with just the 6, 8 and 10mm wrench sizes and moving the fulcrum a bit.

tosh · **Reply #74 on:** May 30, 2014, 06:46:12 PM

Can't say I understand why leatherman bothered with this lot

As mentioned earlier in the thread, these are probably market testers??

I think its generally accepted that leatherman are probably the #1 in their field. So why don't they bring out whats been missing since they began instead of phaffing.
Their current line up is still missing
Blunt Nose
Side Cutters
Shears (not scissors)

These so called pocket tools will without doubt be replicated by our eastern friends once leatherman has tweaked the design. There really can't be much deviation between USA stamped out tools and those stamped out in China/Taiwan??

I think leatherman should concentrate on trades more than leisure. The multitool concept (butterfly opening) surely can't be exhausted yet.

sdmason · **Reply #75 on:** June 02, 2014, 12:44:15 AM

Quote from: Cupboard on May 26, 2014, 11:30:59 PM

Quote from: toolguy on May 24, 2014, 10:35:13 PM
Leatherman refers to the non metric tools as English.We,here in the States,refer to them as standard.I don't know from where Leatherman derived their term English?

Over here we refer to them as Metric and Imperial.
Or "I have a spanner for that" and "oh bloody hell why have they used a stupid old fashioned fastener I'll have to go back to the workshop and find something".
It gets really confusing with all the different permutations of Imperial bolts you get, we have racks of the sodding things. More boxes than the Metric area of the workshop but covering a smaller range of sizes. You can still never find what you need though.

I do keep both Metric and Imperial adjustables handy though, you can never know which one you'll need.

I don't see any in BSW either.

Chako · **Reply #76 on:** June 02, 2014, 01:14:17 AM

To a collector, these tools are like gold. Limited quantities, public input. This has one time deal written all over it.

BIG-TARGET · **Reply #77 on:** June 02, 2014, 01:20:34 AM

The only reason I haven't bought these new tools is the simple fact I'm BROKE!!

JAfromMn · **Reply #78 on:** June 02, 2014, 01:22:34 AM

English333 · **Reply #79 on:** June 02, 2014, 02:46:49 AM

Quote from: JAfromMn on June 02, 2014, 01:22:34 AM

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What're you working on there, mate?

JAfromMn · **Reply #80 on:** June 02, 2014, 04:13:42 AM

Quote from: English333 on June 02, 2014, 02:46:49 AM

Quote from: JAfromMn on June 02, 2014, 01:22:34 AM
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What're you working on there, mate?

I tightened up a lose lawnmower handle with the#5 and a rebar at work. I just needed to hold the nut with it. Q

n4vgm · **Reply #81 on:** June 04, 2014, 03:31:33 AM

I got the #4 I ordered and it is smaller than I thought it would be, which is actually better for keychains. And, NO, the "clip" does not work as a pocket clip, it is too tight. I know it was a fool's dream but I suppose I qualify!

I have yet to figure out what to do with it but I bet it will end up complimenting a larger knife based tool as a dangler. The rubber really is tight in the slot so I figured out that you just twist it and slide the bit out -

The bit fits securely in the hole with the clip so that is reassuring.

ironraven · **Reply #82 on:** June 04, 2014, 03:47:20 AM

So the 5 really is a mini-Pirahna

JAfromMn · **Reply #83 on:** June 04, 2014, 03:59:55 AM

Quote from: ironraven on June 04, 2014, 03:47:20 AM

So the 5 really is a mini-Pirahna

if the croc is a skinny fish the #5 has to be a mini fish.

Mercury · **Reply #84 on:** June 04, 2014, 04:08:00 AM

I just saw these on the website, and I think I might order a few. The price point is just right and they look pretty cool.

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toolguy · **Reply #85 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:58:54 PM

Mine were lost in the mail.I was supposed to receive them on Tuesday but they never arrived.When I checked at the UPS website the tracking number indicated they were delivered on Tuesday.When I called Leatherman to check what information they had they viewed the same information as myself.The service rep indicated that if I still didn't find the location of my missing tools she would ask if she could send two other tools to me.

I'm very thankful to Kim,the public service rep to whom I spoke,for her concern and willingness to ask if they would send two new tools to me.

I called Kim back today to thank her and gladly explained that the tools were delivered to the wrong address because the shipping label was damaged during transit.My mail carrier discovered the mistake and brought them to my front door just a few minutes ago.Hooray!

Thank you Leatherman for hiring such caring and competent people as Kim.