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gb Offline daverobson

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Hoof Pick Knife
on: August 12, 2014, 12:17:03 AM
My youngest Daughter is a very keen horsey person & has been looking for a hoof pick knife recently.
My first thought was obviously the Vic. Equestrian but she seems to want only a blade & hoof pick.
She spotted one which she said looked perfect, unfortunately, everywhere I've looked it is now unobtainable.
I don't know it's official name only that it's made by Linder Solingen.
I've tried the Linder website but can't seem to find anything resembling it.

Would anyone possibly be able to point me in the right direction to find one or are they now discontinued?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Riders-knife-pocket-hoof-pick/dp/B000MV1I6W
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #1 on: August 12, 2014, 12:50:50 AM
Looks a bit like an Aitor frame to me. :think:


There's this thing too.

http://www.weapons-universe.com/Brands/Cattlemans-Cutlery-Knives/Cattlemens-Farrier's-Companion-0067OD.shtml



Maybe Case or one of other quality makers has some similar models.


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #2 on: August 12, 2014, 05:23:04 AM
Maybe Case or one of other quality makers has some similar models.

Exactly what I was thinking...
http://www.wrcase.com/sidesearch/index.php?q=equestrian&Submit=Search


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #3 on: August 12, 2014, 08:17:20 AM
The case one looks pretty classy, and at least the pick looks a little more useful than some circular shaped ones.  :tu:



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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #4 on: August 12, 2014, 10:24:38 AM
I vote for getting separate non folding knife and pick.


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #5 on: August 12, 2014, 10:40:11 AM
A little off-topic... Out of the several times I've seen my girlfriend clean the hoofs on her horse, I've never seen her use a knife-blade in that regard; only the pick. Can anybody fill me in on what the blade is for?


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #6 on: August 12, 2014, 11:06:45 AM
I've seen the Case knives, I don't want to appear to be a tightwad but £58+ seems to be over the top for cleaning hoofs.
http://www.moonrakerknives.co.uk/caseequestrian.html

At the moment she's using a single pick similar to these.


As you know, a knife blade can have many uses particularly around farm & stables, cutting hay bales, hay nets, opening bags of food supplement, leg strapping, tail ties etc.
She told me she doesn't want anything "over the top", no rosewood, brass bolsters etc. just a basic blade & pick.
(Women can be hard to please at times).

I'll keep looking but she seems to have her mind made up for the Linder knife or something very similar.


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #7 on: August 12, 2014, 12:14:20 PM
I've seen the Case knives, I don't want to appear to be a tightwad but £58+ seems to be over the top for cleaning hoofs.
http://www.moonrakerknives.co.uk/caseequestrian.html

At the moment she's using a single pick similar to these.
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As you know, a knife blade can have many uses particularly around farm & stables, cutting hay bales, hay nets, opening bags of food supplement, leg strapping, tail ties etc.
She told me she doesn't want anything "over the top", no rosewood, brass bolsters etc. just a basic blade & pick.
(Women can be hard to please at times).

I'll keep looking but she seems to have her mind made up for the Linder knife or something very similar.

In that case, the knife-blade makes alot more sense. Unknowing as I am, I thought that since a tool was developed, with both pick and knife, that you might need both of them at the same task. Thanks for the update.  :tu:


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #8 on: August 12, 2014, 01:36:16 PM
Does she what a regular blade or a hoof blade?

Edit: nevermind, I reread the op. Somewhere in my shop I have a hoof knife/pick folder. But it is not what is wants.
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #9 on: August 12, 2014, 02:08:44 PM
An ex of mine always used an old British army knife, she always used the marlin spike to clean out there hooves? The modern ones being lockers (she'd have a good reason for carry after all!) Aren't nail breakers :)

Not sure if that helps or not, but I'd does widen the field and a bak is considerable cheaper! :)
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #10 on: August 12, 2014, 05:18:24 PM
An ex of mine always used an old British army knife, she always used the marlin spike to clean out there hooves? The modern ones being lockers (she'd have a good reason for carry after all!) Aren't nail breakers :)

Not sure if that helps or not, but I'd does widen the field and a bak is considerable cheaper! :)

Excellent suggestion Mike. Could be well worth a try.

I just came across this on a military website.

"The British Cavalry Training Manual of 1926 states ..."the pick of the clasp knife is supplied for picking out the horses feet, but any strong iron spike or hook will serve. The point should be filed off for this purpose".
This indicates that the spike on clasp knives issued to cavalry were normally filed down. Note the wording "should" used."

I don't think they meant "the point should be filed off" as in flat but "filed off" as in to a sharper point.

Anyway, it looks like I'll be getting her a BAK with marlin spike.

Thanks for all the help guys.  :tu:




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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #11 on: August 12, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Interesting section from the training manual. :tu:  I've done my share of riding and always used a dedicated pick much like the ones your daughter already has.  I wonder if filing the end of the marlinspike to be a bit more "screwdriver-ish" might be the way to go?  Keep in mind the 'frog' of the hoof still has blood flowing through it and I'm not sure I'd want to risk having a very sharp spike slip and poke it hard.
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #12 on: August 12, 2014, 06:57:17 PM
I have a BAK, and that did come in to mind for recommendation.  However, mine has really really stiff tools, and the nail breaking level probably is similar to SAK 1908 model soldier knife.  And I used to use a simple hoof pick as your have shown, and the flat head did a fair at scrapping without hurting the horse.  The Marlin spike on the other hand could be a little pointy in comparison.

Gareth, just see your post when I finish typing, I do agree with what you said.
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #13 on: August 12, 2014, 07:41:48 PM
An ex of mine always used an old British army knife, she always used the marlin spike to clean out there hooves? The modern ones being lockers (she'd have a good reason for carry after all!) Aren't nail breakers :)

Not sure if that helps or not, but I'd does widen the field and a bak is considerable cheaper! :)

Excellent suggestion Mike. Could be well worth a try.

I just came across this on a military website.

"The British Cavalry Training Manual of 1926 states ..."the pick of the clasp knife is supplied for picking out the horses feet, but any strong iron spike or hook will serve. The point should be filed off for this purpose".
This indicates that the spike on clasp knives issued to cavalry were normally filed down. Note the wording "should" used."

I don't think they meant "the point should be filed off" as in flat but "filed off" as in to a sharper point.

Anyway, it looks like I'll be getting her a BAK with marlin spike.

Thanks for all the help guys.  :tu:
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #14 on: August 12, 2014, 08:00:25 PM
First, I really like the looks of that Case Equestrian... :drool:

Second, does she anticipate having shoes with removable studs?  If so, you might look at the HorseTools folding tool:



What is nice is, there are cut outs for the 2 most common sized studs and a built in, removable tap to clean and recut thread holes.  I have this tool and when my kids were competing, I had this in my pocket, especially out on course in case of a lost stud.


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #15 on: August 12, 2014, 09:25:01 PM
I've seen very similar tools around the livery stables being used by the more profesional competition riders.
Although my daughter has competed in a number of events her horse riding is more recreational at the moment and as such her horse is treated to the more common shoe & nail style by the local farrier.

As a side note I must be careful when looking at farming websites, I just went numb when I saw this one.  :ahhh
http://www.fearing.co.uk/sheep/breeding-rearing/castration-ring-pliers


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #16 on: August 12, 2014, 09:30:46 PM
I've seen very similar tools around the livery stables being used by the more profesional competition riders.
Although my daughter has competed in a number of events her horse riding is more recreational at the moment and as such her horse is treated to the more common shoe & nail style by the local farrier.

As a side note I must be careful when looking at farming websites, I just went numb when I saw this one.  :ahhh
http://www.fearing.co.uk/sheep/breeding-rearing/castration-ring-pliers

Actually the horse is shod with a standard steel shoe, but it has holes drilled and tapped at the heel of the shoe.  When not competing, it's plugged (usually with cotton or synthetic foam) but at competitions, they screw in studs to match the terrain.  It gives the horse much better traction, especially for jumping.  The studs range from little square road studs up to massive mud studs.



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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #17 on: August 12, 2014, 09:33:28 PM
btw...

I bought one of the Case Equestrians... :whistle: :facepalm:


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #18 on: August 12, 2014, 09:53:27 PM
btw...

I bought one of the Case Equestrians... :whistle: :facepalm:

 :oops:  Now look what I've started.


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #19 on: August 12, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
btw...

I bought one of the Case Equestrians... :whistle: :facepalm:

 :oops:  Now look what I've started.

I still blame Kirk.  >:(

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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #20 on: August 12, 2014, 10:27:46 PM
Versatile things horses, you can either sit on them or run alongside.
Here's my youngest at two different styles of competition recently.
(I only just noticed in pic 2 that they were both in step together).





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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #21 on: August 12, 2014, 10:37:39 PM
btw...

I bought one of the Case Equestrians... :whistle: :facepalm:

 :oops:  Now look what I've started.


I still blame Kirk.  >:(

 :D

Hey, at least this is one traditional purchase I can't be blamed for......  :)
There's no such thing as "Too pretty to carry".  There's only "Too pretty NOT to carry"...... >:D


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #22 on: August 13, 2014, 03:51:51 PM
Versatile things horses, you can either sit on them or run alongside.
Here's my youngest at two different styles of competition recently.
(I only just noticed in pic 2 that they were both in step together).

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Handsome horse!  Eventing, I see.  He looks like a lovely draft cross.  If she keeps at it, you'll be hearing about drilled and tapped shoes... :whistle:


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #23 on: August 14, 2014, 06:56:00 AM
Not sure if that helps or not, but I'd does widen the field and a bak is considerable cheaper! :)

I suppose the BAK would be cheaper there.  Here, they are the same price; either a BAK (w/ spike) or the Case with the rose wood handle is about $45 shipped.


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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #24 on: August 14, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
BTW Dave I have to ask, given your avatar, are you a borders man?
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #25 on: August 14, 2014, 12:06:09 PM
BTW Dave I have to ask, given your avatar, are you a borders man?

I'm descended from the Robsons of Falstone Northumberland, one of the Border Reiver Families.
Quiet & peace loving people apparently.  >:D

Although it looks like my family were using sharp pointy things on a very daily basis 500 years ago!
http://www.englandsnortheast.co.uk/BorderReivers.html

http://www.landsbeyondthewall.co.uk/Robson.html







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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #26 on: August 14, 2014, 01:28:10 PM
I thought you might be. ;)  Co-incidentally, as we are talking about horses, I did most of my riding with these fine gents:



Sadly I'm not in that pic, nor do I seem to have a shot of me in the saddle anywhere. :think:  You'll just have to take my word for it. :D
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #27 on: August 14, 2014, 01:47:53 PM
Very impressive Gareth.  :tu:
It's certainly a small world.

I'd love to be able to attend a gathering one day.
We don't seem to have travelled very far in life. My family originated in Falstone, moved to Hexham & my great grandfather moved to Tyneside looking for work, a total distance of 50 miles in 500 years.

http://www.borderreivers.co.uk/Border%20Villages/Falstone/Falstone.htm

"Falstone suffered severely from raids and counter raids of the Border reivers. The principal family were the Robsons who were great reivers and the name is still common in the region. Falstone is believed to be the original location of the Robson family".

I'll have to keep a look out in case you all decide to come a reiving down here looking for women, drink & sheep. (in whichever order you prefer I suppose).

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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #28 on: August 14, 2014, 09:08:15 PM

Dave,
How about buying one of these and attacking it with a Dremel?
Gives you a bail for a lanyard, blade, hook and a pokey thing
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Re: Hoof Pick Knife
Reply #29 on: August 14, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
That is a very good suggestion Sparky.
I bet those very attractive looking Case knives wish they had a pokey thing.  :pok:

Thank you.  :tu:


 

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