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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1350 on: October 07, 2015, 03:33:59 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 07, 2015, 03:26:41 AM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 03:24:52 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 06, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: comis on October 06, 2015, 10:54:18 AM
I was just browsing on LM homepage, and was thinking maybe one of us should comment/review Signal on their product page.

I post on the site earlier but they wont let me post  :twak: :twak: :multi: :rant: :facepalm:

Err...why is that?  Maybe they need some product number or registration to post?

Maybe cuz i give them 1 star and say useless MT..  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Feedback is reviewed for appropriate content and profanity before posted publicly by LM on their product pages...just what sort of words did you use Obi?  :angel:
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1351 on: October 07, 2015, 03:37:09 AM
Quote from: babola on October 07, 2015, 03:33:59 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 07, 2015, 03:26:41 AM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 03:24:52 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 06, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: comis on October 06, 2015, 10:54:18 AM
I was just browsing on LM homepage, and was thinking maybe one of us should comment/review Signal on their product page.

I post on the site earlier but they wont let me post  :twak: :twak: :multi: :rant: :facepalm:

Err...why is that?  Maybe they need some product number or registration to post?

Maybe cuz i give them 1 star and say useless MT..  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Feedback is reviewed for appropriate content and profanity before posted publicly by LM on their product pages...just what sort of words did you use Obi?  :angel:

I say go with Wave/Charge/Surge/Supertool 300.. Signal is useless  :rofl:
« Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 03:40:32 AM by Obi1shinobee »
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1352 on: October 07, 2015, 03:46:26 AM
Quote from: babola on October 07, 2015, 03:33:59 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 07, 2015, 03:26:41 AM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 03:24:52 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 06, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: comis on October 06, 2015, 10:54:18 AM
I was just browsing on LM homepage, and was thinking maybe one of us should comment/review Signal on their product page.

I post on the site earlier but they wont let me post  :twak: :twak: :multi: :rant: :facepalm:

Err...why is that?  Maybe they need some product number or registration to post?

Maybe cuz i give them 1 star and say useless MT..  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Feedback is reviewed for appropriate content and profanity before posted publicly by LM on their product pages...just what sort of words did you use Obi?  :angel:

Leatherman Juice XE6 with those still  Owned Signal and cheaper  :rofl:
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1353 on: October 07, 2015, 05:27:17 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 07, 2015, 03:37:09 AM
Quote from: babola on October 07, 2015, 03:33:59 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 07, 2015, 03:26:41 AM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 03:24:52 AM
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 06, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: comis on October 06, 2015, 10:54:18 AM
I was just browsing on LM homepage, and was thinking maybe one of us should comment/review Signal on their product page.

I post on the site earlier but they wont let me post  :twak: :twak: :multi: :rant: :facepalm:

Err...why is that?  Maybe they need some product number or registration to post?

Maybe cuz i give them 1 star and say useless MT..  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Feedback is reviewed for appropriate content and profanity before posted publicly by LM on their product pages...just what sort of words did you use Obi?  :angel:

I say go with Wave/Charge/Surge/Supertool 300.. Signal is useless  :rofl:

I am surprised by this.  I just looked at the reviews of Rebar, which I consider to be a good offering from LM.  And some of the reviews are actually one star and 'do not recommend to friends'.  So kudos to LM for being impartial and fair to their reviews.

Are they worry that negative review right from the start which will affect the sales of Signal?

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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1354 on: October 07, 2015, 02:23:14 PM

Was on the LM site today, sorted their MTs by bestsellers and guess what came up on top.... the Signal. Followed by the Wave and Wingman to make the top 3. I wonder what sort of algorithm is used for this.
 
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1355 on: October 07, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: rishardh on October 07, 2015, 02:23:14 PM

Was on the LM site today, sorted their MTs by bestsellers and guess what came up on top.... the Signal. Followed by the Wave and Wingman to make the top 3. I wonder what sort of algorithm is used for this.
Or what time-frame... It's probably the bestseller for the last week/month.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1356 on: October 07, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: Etherealicer on October 07, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: rishardh on October 07, 2015, 02:23:14 PM

Was on the LM site today, sorted their MTs by bestsellers and guess what came up on top.... the Signal. Followed by the Wave and Wingman to make the top 3. I wonder what sort of algorithm is used for this.
Or what time-frame... It's probably the bestseller for the last week/month.

Isn't the Wingman their top selling MT now? If this is true then the Wingman should be #2 no? Maybe it's all time sales divided by sales days(age).
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1357 on: October 07, 2015, 03:59:07 PM
Quote from: rishardh on October 07, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: Etherealicer on October 07, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: rishardh on October 07, 2015, 02:23:14 PM

Was on the LM site today, sorted their MTs by bestsellers and guess what came up on top.... the Signal. Followed by the Wave and Wingman to make the top 3. I wonder what sort of algorithm is used for this.
Or what time-frame... It's probably the bestseller for the last week/month.

Isn't the Wingman their top selling MT now? If this is true then the Wingman should be #2 no? Maybe it's all time sales divided by sales days(age).
I doubt it's that complicated... I bet its just top selling in the last week/month.

You know all it takes is a larger order of Waves from a re-seller. Check back in two weeks...
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1358 on: October 07, 2015, 05:45:26 PM
Quote from: Etherealicer on October 07, 2015, 03:59:07 PM
Quote from: rishardh on October 07, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: Etherealicer on October 07, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: rishardh on October 07, 2015, 02:23:14 PM

Was on the LM site today, sorted their MTs by bestsellers and guess what came up on top.... the Signal. Followed by the Wave and Wingman to make the top 3. I wonder what sort of algorithm is used for this.
Or what time-frame... It's probably the bestseller for the last week/month.

Isn't the Wingman their top selling MT now? If this is true then the Wingman should be #2 no? Maybe it's all time sales divided by sales days(age).
I doubt it's that complicated... I bet its just top selling in the last week/month.

You know all it takes is a larger order of Waves from a re-seller. Check back in two weeks...

Good point, I assumed they would go by sales on the LM web site alone.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1359 on: October 07, 2015, 08:03:26 PM
Probably large initial batch orders for Christmas by large retailers.


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1360 on: October 07, 2015, 08:04:58 PM
I also have to admit the tool looks really good and without using it looks really good for an outdoorsman - especially if bought as a gift by non multitool users.


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1361 on: October 07, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 05:27:17 AM
Are they worry that negative review right from the start which will affect the sales of Signal?

Correct. Their Signal is currently selling like hot cakes and reviews like Obi's wouldn't help their bottom line at the moment.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1362 on: October 07, 2015, 10:25:34 PM
Quote from: babola on October 07, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 05:27:17 AM
Are they worry that negative review right from the start which will affect the sales of Signal?

Correct. Their Signal is currently selling like hot cakes and reviews like Obi's wouldn't help their bottom line at the moment.

Time will make them go  :twak: :multi: :rant:
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1363 on: October 07, 2015, 11:25:39 PM
Quote from: babola on October 07, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 05:27:17 AM
Are they worry that negative review right from the start which will affect the sales of Signal?

Correct. Their Signal is currently selling like hot cakes and reviews like Obi's wouldn't help their bottom line at the moment.

Well they should go back to making tools that get good reviews then  :D seems like pretty simple logic to me, but maybe there's something I've missed out on :shrug:


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1364 on: October 07, 2015, 11:50:18 PM
Quote from: 50ft-trad on October 07, 2015, 11:25:39 PM
Quote from: babola on October 07, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 05:27:17 AM
Are they worry that negative review right from the start which will affect the sales of Signal?

Correct. Their Signal is currently selling like hot cakes and reviews like Obi's wouldn't help their bottom line at the moment.

Well they should go back to making tools that get good reviews then  :D seems like pretty simple logic to me, but maybe there's something I've missed out on :shrug:

What you missed was the fact they don't really care much about people like you, me, Kampfer, Obi etc...to them you're more of a fly in the ointment, one of the select few...opinionated and knowledgeable. What you think of their products isn't worth their attention. That stuff unfortunately don't seem to matter to the Gerbers, Leathermans, SOGs etc of this world these days any more.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1365 on: October 07, 2015, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: 50ft-trad on October 07, 2015, 11:25:39 PM
Quote from: babola on October 07, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 05:27:17 AM
Are they worry that negative review right from the start which will affect the sales of Signal?

Correct. Their Signal is currently selling like hot cakes and reviews like Obi's wouldn't help their bottom line at the moment.

Well they should go back to making tools that get good reviews then  :D seems like pretty simple logic to me, but maybe there's something I've missed out on :shrug:

There's better margins in making lower grade tools and selling them to people who don't know better.

Mind you,you knew that ;)
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1366 on: October 08, 2015, 03:22:49 AM
If we want to make an impact we have to post on retail sites. That's more likely to impact buying decisions.


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1367 on: October 08, 2015, 03:33:23 AM
The real impact will be the dissatisfied consumer at the end of the day.  This is a cheap tool with an expensive price tag.  The grace they'd be allowed at a reasonable price just won't be there in the long run.  Risking their valuable reputation for short term profits seems pretty stupid to me.  I hope they turn this around :shrug:


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1368 on: October 08, 2015, 03:56:10 AM
Survial Knife? hahahaha what a jokes.  THIS IS SURVIVAL LEATHERMAN..  :rofl: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62377.0.html  :drool: :drool: :drool: :gimme:
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1369 on: October 08, 2015, 04:07:24 AM
It seen like well received on MTo's Facebook page.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1370 on: October 08, 2015, 06:41:45 AM
Quote from: Kampfer on October 08, 2015, 04:07:24 AM
It seen like well received on MTo's Facebook page.
Definetly a different POV on the Facebook feed.

Much more photo and looks oriented, than use and constriction IMO
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1371 on: October 08, 2015, 12:56:22 PM
The more I read the developments and thoughts in this thread, the more respect I lose for LM...  :whistle:
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1372 on: October 16, 2015, 03:58:46 AM
I rather like it, ditch the plastic crap and change the blade it's pretty decent.




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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1373 on: October 16, 2015, 06:35:10 AM
Quote from: colt 1911 on October 16, 2015, 03:58:46 AM
I rather like it, ditch the plastic crap and change the blade it's pretty decent.

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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1374 on: October 16, 2015, 01:17:21 PM
That is sweet looking Colt!

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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1375 on: October 16, 2015, 01:55:46 PM

Quote from: babola on October 16, 2015, 06:35:10 AM
Quote from: colt 1911 on October 16, 2015, 03:58:46 AM
I rather like it, ditch the plastic crap and change the blade it's pretty decent.

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True but the hammer is where it's at for me.


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1376 on: October 16, 2015, 01:56:15 PM

Quote from: ducttapetech on October 16, 2015, 01:17:21 PM
That is sweet looking Colt!

That's us mobile.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1377 on: October 16, 2015, 08:05:54 PM
Quote from: colt 1911 on October 16, 2015, 01:55:46 PM

Quote from: babola on October 16, 2015, 06:35:10 AM
Quote from: colt 1911 on October 16, 2015, 03:58:46 AM
I rather like it, ditch the plastic crap and change the blade it's pretty decent.

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LOL!

Or just get a Wave with a lot more tools for a lot less... :pok:

True but the hammer is where it's at for me.


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I wouldn't call that a hammer  ;)
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1378 on: October 17, 2015, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: colt 1911 on October 16, 2015, 03:58:46 AM
I rather like it, ditch the plastic crap and change the blade it's pretty decent.

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Just looking at that pic, the peg thingy where the sharpener locates looks extremely uncomfortable in knife/saw mode. Is it really better with that exposed than with the sharpener in position?


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #1379 on: October 17, 2015, 12:59:08 AM
Quote from: colt 1911 on October 16, 2015, 03:58:46 AM
I rather like it, ditch the plastic crap and change the blade it's pretty decent.

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