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Re: Bike porn thread
Reply #720 on: July 03, 2015, 07:48:53 PM

Nice pic for middle of Winter. Wanaka?
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Reply #721 on: July 04, 2015, 01:08:39 AM
So the Nashbar AT-1 came in today. I unpacked everything and was looking for the assembly instructions. Problem is they do not give you any. Nothing. I called the company and was told they do not include assembly instructions with their bicycles. This is the first time I have built a bike from the box, but I would assume you would get instructions. Guess I was wrong. Anyways, I had to buy some grease and a pedal wrench to do the assembly properly. Not a big deal, but it kind of sucks. So I assembled everything and all is well.





I am assuming once I put the proper tension on the front brakes I can cut the rest of the cable off right? How much should I leave?






The grips are interesting and quite comfortable. From the limited riding I did with it today I don't really like the twist shifting, but it is what it is.







One thing I noticed is the wheels aren't true right out of the box, but not enough for me to pay to have them fixed.




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Reply #722 on: July 04, 2015, 05:10:45 AM
BUMP. I need to confirm its alright to cut the brake cable.
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Reply #723 on: July 04, 2015, 06:10:28 AM
Everything looks seated correctly (assuming left hand front as you're in the US), you have two small Philips screws on the side of the break, they adjust the tension of the spring so you can make sure both sides contact the rim at the same time.
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Reply #724 on: July 04, 2015, 07:50:26 AM
Everything looks seated correctly (assuming left hand front as you're in the US), you have two small Philips screws on the side of the break, they adjust the tension of the spring so you can make sure both sides contact the rim at the same time.


I tried to do that, but the screw does not seem to be adjusting anything. I tightened the cable and tried to fine tune the left side brake pad to be closer to the rim, but when screwing (left moves the brake pad closer) the screw just backed out all the way without adjusting the brake pad at all. The brakes work, but not real well as the brake handle will pull all the way to the grip and barely stop the bike. If I use both brakes at the same time the bike stops well but if I use either the front or rear brake alone they will only roll the bike to a slow stop. Should I tighten the adjustment screw for the brake pad all the way, then tighten the cable, then back out the screw to push the brake pad to proper alignment?

I can cut that long front brake cable and put a cap on the end right? How much should I leave?
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Re: Bike porn thread
Reply #725 on: July 04, 2015, 07:56:19 AM
To see the adjustment those small screws make, you squeeze the lever and see it return. Each side is going against the other. The pad itself will be adjusted by a 5mm. Leave around 2-3" and then tuck it into the caliper:

Its fine fettling to set them up perfectly, a back you only get through lots of experience and helps put people like myself through college!
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Reply #726 on: July 04, 2015, 09:01:42 AM
To see the adjustment those small screws make, you squeeze the lever and see it return. Each side is going against the other. The pad itself will be adjusted by a 5mm. Leave around 2-3" and then tuck it into the caliper:

Its fine fettling to set them up perfectly, a back you only get through lots of experience and helps put people like myself through college!


I will just have to fiddle with it and see what I can do. The brakes work well enough to be safe so i'm not to concerned but would like to get them working perfectly without having to pay $75 for a tune up.

Do you mean leave 2''-3'' on the cable and cut there? I don't think I can tuck it into the caliper.
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Re: Bike porn thread
Reply #727 on: July 04, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
To see the adjustment those small screws make, you squeeze the lever and see it return. Each side is going against the other. The pad itself will be adjusted by a 5mm. Leave around 2-3" and then tuck it into the caliper:

Its fine fettling to set them up perfectly, a back you only get through lots of experience and helps put people like myself through college!


I will just have to fiddle with it and see what I can do. The brakes work well enough to be safe so i'm not to concerned but would like to get them working perfectly without having to pay $75 for a tune up.

Do you mean leave 2''-3'' on the cable and cut there? I don't think I can tuck it into the caliper.

2" to 3" should be good, just so that the cable doesn't slip off when not under tension (ie. when adjusting the cable later on)


Nice looking set of wheels you got there, cap'n :tu:


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Reply #728 on: July 04, 2015, 11:05:01 PM
I cut the cable and tried putting the cap on and crimping. Since the MT's I used to cut the cable sucked the big one (Rebar and MP400) the end was frayed. I could not get the cap on and almost gave up and while putting the tools away noticed my Teflon tape. I got the idea to use a small piece and wrap the end of the frayed cable. It worked to keep the together and let the cap slide on enough for me to crimp it down.
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Re: Bike porn thread
Reply #729 on: July 04, 2015, 11:13:51 PM
I cut the cable and tried putting the cap on and crimping. Since the MT's I used to cut the cable sucked the big one (Rebar and MP400) the end was frayed. I could not get the cap on and almost gave up and while putting the tools away noticed my Teflon tape. I got the idea to use a small piece and wrap the end of the frayed cable. It worked to keep the together and let the cap slide on enough for me to crimp it down.
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Reply #730 on: July 04, 2015, 11:39:40 PM
I cut the cable and tried putting the cap on and crimping. Since the MT's I used to cut the cable sucked the big one (Rebar and MP400) the end was frayed. I could not get the cap on and almost gave up and while putting the tools away noticed my Teflon tape. I got the idea to use a small piece and wrap the end of the frayed cable. It worked to keep the together and let the cap slide on enough for me to crimp it down.
That belonged to another thread...

It belongs in both as I was talking about the cable in this thread.  :twak:
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Reply #731 on: July 05, 2015, 01:17:39 AM
I finally got the time and $$ to put new tires on my bike.  I got a set of puncture-resistant semi-slicks and new tubes for $60 installed.  The change was instantly noticeable.  The bike handles better and the ride is not as sluggish on the pavement as it was with the off-road rubber it came with. :tu:  One or two more little things and my department store mountain bike will be a nice urban ride.
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Reply #732 on: July 05, 2015, 02:34:17 AM
I finally got the time and $$ to put new tires on my bike.  I got a set of puncture-resistant semi-slicks and new tubes for $60 installed.  The change was instantly noticeable.  The bike handles better and the ride is not as sluggish on the pavement as it was with the off-road rubber it came with. :tu:  One or two more little things and my department store mountain bike will be a nice urban ride.

Awesome! I am waiting on my bag and light mount.
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Re: Bike porn thread
Reply #733 on: July 08, 2015, 01:54:31 PM
I still owe you some pics of my new work and family carrier.
As I am still in paranting time - and for a good part could not move well - I only have tested it a few times with my son and used it instead of my bike as having electric power was so much nicer on my hurting knees and feet.

As mentioned before, my Boss bought the bike as my work vehicle and I may use it in my free time, too. We bought a Kid seat and rain-roof to make it a Kid transporter. My son likes it very much but you need to keep an eye out for the Cargo - He tends to try to unload the bike while we ride...

I present teh Babboe CityE:
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Reply #734 on: July 08, 2015, 05:49:30 PM
That looks pretty cool. Is it hard to steer with the extended wheelbase?
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Reply #735 on: July 08, 2015, 05:52:19 PM
That's a fantastic ride mate! I really do think the bicycle is key to our environmental woes :)

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Reply #736 on: July 08, 2015, 06:02:36 PM
Now that's a proper bakfiets! :tu:
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Reply #737 on: July 08, 2015, 06:20:19 PM
That's a fantastic ride mate! I really do think the bicycle is key to our environmental woes :)

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Reply #738 on: July 09, 2015, 02:32:17 AM
Well the Nashbar is starting to disappoint. First off the bike needs a complete tune up right out of the box. Derailleurs are out of wack and the chain hits it in certain gears. Wheels are not true. Brakes don't work very well and the latest development is the JUNK pedals they provide have already broken (less than a week) after very light riding. I'm kind of pissed off right now.  :wait:
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Reply #739 on: July 09, 2015, 08:44:47 AM
Can you take it back as it sounds like its not fit for purpose???

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Reply #740 on: July 09, 2015, 09:08:42 AM
Can you take it back as it sounds like its not fit for purpose???

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   Cannot return it. It really just needs a full tune up and new pedals. I ordered new pedals which will be here in a couple of days. I will most likely try and do the tune up myself, but would hate to make anything worse. With that said I like to be able to work on things I own so I will definitely be doing it myself. I also do not have money to spend on doing a tune up and no way to get the bike to the shop anyways. To do it properly I am going to have to buy a "work stand" or whatever its called which sucks, but I kind of want one anyways so I will see if I can get the stand eventually. The pedals are easy enough to replace. I have a fear of ruining the threads on the crank arm and having to replace that as well, but if it happens then so be it.
   I'm just really bummed as the damn bike needs a brake adjustment, derailleur adjustment, wheel truing, and new pedals right out of the box. I'm stuck with the bike now. I really do love the look and design of the bike though so once everything gets sorted I expect to be very happy, but I will always be pissed off about having to do all this extra crap after spending a bunch of money on a brand new bike.
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Reply #741 on: July 09, 2015, 10:23:20 AM
Bikes are packed from Taiwan etc, and then every single bike at a shop has these adjustments, if you skip the shop part, then you have to do them yourself. The good thing is, its not rocket science, so if you're mechanically minded you can easily do it yourself. I no longer work in bike shops, but I do everything apart from suspension cartridge service that requires nitrogen.

I wouldn't worry about stripping your cranks, just use a 15mm wrench. The pedal axle themselves will be 9/16" with a coarse thread, so its not easy to cross thread, and if its stiff then don't force it! Cranks mainly strip when they receive and impact and don't have steel inserts.

You don't NEED a bike stand, but they make working a lot easier. Though it is essentially just a way to secure the bike with the wheels in the air. When I first started racing I can't count the number of times I tuned my gears with the bike upside down in a muddy field. If you have a garage/shed just having something suspended from the rafters will be more than adequate for the odd job.

If you do get into cycling more however, it can be just as addictive, and every more expensive than knives and tools!
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Reply #742 on: July 09, 2015, 10:39:34 AM
Good luck in getting your bike road worthy, Captain!

I did test ride a few different load carrying bikes and the 3 wheeled versions are very clumsy in handling, slow and tend to tip over in fast curves.
The 2 wheeled bikes rides like a usual bicycle after around 2 blocks of getting used to. You need to look where you ride, not stare at the front wheel. Otherwise you get used to the length pretty quick. Until now I used a bike trailer when carrying tools at work and I like the long bike much better.
Steering is not as quick as on a usual bike and some pedestrian crossings are a bit tight. Most annoying is people using the (narrow) bike path the wrong way and then yelling at you because you are not disappearing in smoke as they approach.

The bike itself, while a basic load carrying bike, is nicely equipped. Rear hub brushless engine (250W, 3 levels of support up to 25 km/h), Rear brake is a Magura hydraulic barke, front is a drum brake combined with hub dynamo, automatic LED lighting. The box is waterproof plywood.

I am thinking about making the front (drum) brake a bit more efficient - The 40 feet long cable with a million bends eats a good amount of the applied force.


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Reply #743 on: July 09, 2015, 10:58:05 AM
Bikes are packed from Taiwan etc, and then every single bike at a shop has these adjustments, if you skip the shop part, then you have to do them yourself. The good thing is, its not rocket science, so if you're mechanically minded you can easily do it yourself. I no longer work in bike shops, but I do everything apart from suspension cartridge service that requires nitrogen.

I wouldn't worry about stripping your cranks, just use a 15mm wrench. The pedal axle themselves will be 9/16" with a coarse thread, so its not easy to cross thread, and if its stiff then don't force it! Cranks mainly strip when they receive and impact and don't have steel inserts.

You don't NEED a bike stand, but they make working a lot easier. Though it is essentially just a way to secure the bike with the wheels in the air. When I first started racing I can't count the number of times I tuned my gears with the bike upside down in a muddy field. If you have a garage/shed just having something suspended from the rafters will be more than adequate for the odd job.

If you do get into cycling more however, it can be just as addictive, and every more expensive than knives and tools!


I'm sure I can make the adjustments myself. I just need to do some research first.

I have a pedal wrench already so that's good. The only thing I was wondering about is when I assembled the bike there were warnings on installing the pedals. The right side pedal screws in clockwise. The left side pedal screws in counter clockwise. Both pedals are market with either a "R" or "L" for left or right. Are ALL pedals marked "R" or "L" and do ALL pedals screw in clockwise for right side and counter clockwise for left side? If I receive the new pedals I ordered and they are not marked what should I do? One other thing is when I assembled the bike the right side pedal screwed almost all the way in by hand then tightened it down with the pedal wrench. The left side barely went in by hand then I used the pedal wrench to screw it in the rest of the way. When I got close to the end it got tight, then released, then tightened down. I am worried I could of possibly already caused damage to the left side and if I remove it and try to install the new left side pedal the threads will be ruined. I guess only time will tell when I get the new pedals though. I still need to know about what is in bold though.

I know I do not NEED a bike stand but I think it will make things much easier. I do not have access to a garage or shed and cannot hang the bike from anything. What is tuning your gears entail? Is it just adjusting the Derailleurs? 

I was messing with the brakes and cannot seem to get them to work properly. I mean they work, but not well and the handle pulls all the way to the handle and barely stops the bike. If I take up slack in the cable it will be touching the rim.
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Re: Bike porn thread
Reply #744 on: July 09, 2015, 11:43:49 AM
Bikes are packed from Taiwan etc, and then every single bike at a shop has these adjustments, if you skip the shop part, then you have to do them yourself. The good thing is, its not rocket science, so if you're mechanically minded you can easily do it yourself. I no longer work in bike shops, but I do everything apart from suspension cartridge service that requires nitrogen.

I wouldn't worry about stripping your cranks, just use a 15mm wrench. The pedal axle themselves will be 9/16" with a coarse thread, so its not easy to cross thread, and if its stiff then don't force it! Cranks mainly strip when they receive and impact and don't have steel inserts.

You don't NEED a bike stand, but they make working a lot easier. Though it is essentially just a way to secure the bike with the wheels in the air. When I first started racing I can't count the number of times I tuned my gears with the bike upside down in a muddy field. If you have a garage/shed just having something suspended from the rafters will be more than adequate for the odd job.

If you do get into cycling more however, it can be just as addictive, and every more expensive than knives and tools!


I'm sure I can make the adjustments myself. I just need to do some research first.

I have a pedal wrench already so that's good. The only thing I was wondering about is when I assembled the bike there were warnings on installing the pedals. The right side pedal screws in clockwise. The left side pedal screws in counter clockwise. Both pedals are market with either a "R" or "L" for left or right. Are ALL pedals marked "R" or "L" and do ALL pedals screw in clockwise for right side and counter clockwise for left side? If I receive the new pedals I ordered and they are not marked what should I do? One other thing is when I assembled the bike the right side pedal screwed almost all the way in by hand then tightened it down with the pedal wrench. The left side barely went in by hand then I used the pedal wrench to screw it in the rest of the way. When I got close to the end it got tight, then released, then tightened down. I am worried I could of possibly already caused damage to the left side and if I remove it and try to install the new left side pedal the threads will be ruined. I guess only time will tell when I get the new pedals though. I still need to know about what is in bold though.

I know I do not NEED a bike stand but I think it will make things much easier. I do not have access to a garage or shed and cannot hang the bike from anything. What is tuning your gears entail? Is it just adjusting the Derailleurs? 

I was messing with the brakes and cannot seem to get them to work properly. I mean they work, but not well and the handle pulls all the way to the handle and barely stops the bike. If I take up slack in the cable it will be touching the rim.

Yes, pedals are normally labelled. If they are not just look at the thread.
It can help to apply a little grease to the threads before install.
Yes, right side goes in clockwise and left side goes in counter clockwise, always.


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Re: Bike porn thread
Reply #745 on: July 09, 2015, 11:50:03 AM
Derailleurs involve limit screws and cable tension, the rear derailleur also has b-tension. I'd recommend Park Tools website, good step by step guides and videos.

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Reply #746 on: July 09, 2015, 04:40:21 PM
Yes I greased the threads before install already so I know to do that, but thank you for mentioning it as I forgot to.  :tu:


Henry, thanks for the recommendation.  :tu:
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Reply #747 on: July 12, 2015, 03:36:22 AM
Today as I was riding home from work, a local guy known as Bike Man was outside his apartment building next door to where I live, with several used bikes for sale out.  Bike Man is a bit of an Elizabeth institution.  Need a decent bike for cheap? Talk to Bike Man.  Need your brakes or gears adjusted?  Talk to Bike Man.  He's done some work on my bike, and is a good guy.  I was talking to him, and he had a proposition for me - he offered to swap frames with me, putting my new tires, seat, and rack on a better frame than the department store one I have for $20, the old frame, and a few smokes.  :)  And so, as of this afternoon, I'm now riding a Trek 820.  :D



It's still on the heavy side, but not as heavy as my other bike.  It handles much better on the streets and sidewalks, perhaps because there's no rear suspension?  :think:  Shimano shifters, 21 speeds, it's Trek's entry-level bike.  It's in great shape, only one or two little dings to the paint on the frame.  For my old frame, a bit of cash, and several Camels, I got myself a bike that lists at $329.   :tu:  Not a bad deal, eh?
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Reply #748 on: July 12, 2015, 05:54:15 AM
That looks like a great score. Treks are great bikes  :tu:.
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Reply #749 on: July 12, 2015, 07:15:32 AM
Awesome score JD!  :tu: I was looking at a Trek 820 before I bought my Nashbar, but I didn't have the money for it. It was $380 at my local bike shop.

For $20, your old frame, and a few smokes I would say you made out like a bandit.
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