Massive Celebrity Phone Hack/Photo Leak (discussion about the event)

[Rux]

Our overseas friends might not be seeing the headlines, but numerous celebrities in the U.S. had hundreds of raunchy personal cell phone photos suddenly leaked on the web in the last 24 hours. There's a firestorm brewing and it's a publicists worst nightmare.

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/jennifer-lawrence-victoria-justice-alleged-nude-photo-hacking-n192901

Oscar-winner Jennifer Lawrence and other female actresses lashed out against an online bulletin board that posted what it claimed was compromising pictures of them and dozens of other celebrities, which were obtained from a massive hacking campaign targeting Apple's iCloud storage service.

Am I the only one that has absolutely zero sympathy for these people?

[kirk13]

I'd seen the story on the BBC,but TBH,I have little or no interest one way or the other.

At my work,I've met,served or seen many sports,TV,or movie stars,and my view is that what they do,within the same level of reason that applies to us,is their own business

[Freaver]

I actually discussed this with a colleague today.

To a certain extent, I can understand the "need", for that kind of pictures, but having them uploaded to a online cloud-service, when you're a high-profile Hollywood actor... Aren't you kinda asking for it then?
Photos of that nature, should either be kept in a seperate app, that doesn't communicate with the cloud-service, or be kept on a USB-drive, again, only to be viewed on a computer that doesn't automatically sync with a cloud-service.

With that being said... I agree with you, WildJ3 - no sympathy. It's the cost of being a public figure.

[Rux]

One of my coworkers was acting very sympathetic that their privacy was violated. Sure, it was. But they were taking the photos, texting them around, having them go through iCloud, etc.

The outcome is their own fault if you ask me and goes back to the old "if you're not ok with the rest of the world seeing it, don't put it online".

[enki_ck]

Sooo ... a lot of celebrities are going to be switching over to Android it seems.

[Smashie]

Experience from work has taught me, "If you don't want your smurf out there, don't put it anywhere near the internet"

[hiraethus]

... my view is that what they do,within the same level of reason that applies to us,is their own business

Absolutely.  Just because they're famous doesn't mean they shouldn't have some privacy.

Experience from work has taught me, "If you don't want your smurf out there, don't put it anywhere near the internet"

This too.  in spades.

[captain spaulding]

... my view is that what they do,within the same level of reason that applies to us,is their own business

Absolutely.  Just because they're famous doesn't mean they shouldn't have some privacy.

Experience from work has taught me, "If you don't want your smurf out there, don't put it anywhere near the internet"

This too.  in spades.

I agree. Just because they are famous doe snot mean they should not have the same privacy as us mere "civilians."  With that said they should know they will be targeted do to being famous and take measures to protect themselves against these type of things.

Once it goes on the internet in any way, shape, or form you better consider it public information. 

[AimlessWanderer]

Sooo ... a lot of celebrities are going to be switching over to Android it seems.

.... owned by a company that's made it's vast fortune by spying on people for profit ...

Why oh why do people trust the internet with anything? I ditched my Nokia Windows phone in two days when I realised it stores all your contact details online on a Live account instead of on the phone  and that was just contact numbers, not nuddy photos 

Stupid people have been exploited - so that's a for the hackers and a for the morons

[Whoey]

Best way to prevent raunchy photos/videos from being leaked is to not take any.

Being a celebrity (Pamela Anderson/Tommy Lee for example) the track history in the past rarely turns out well.

[Grathr]

Another thing is that many of these videos and pics has a tendency to appear, just when many of theese celebreties are in need of a carreer boost, and almost all og them has benefited from it...


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[detron]

as a "White hat" hacker, I have a negative feeling about people who do illegal hacking (Crackers being a more correct moniker ).
as a society we have managed to blame the hacked person/group/corporation, instead of the evil doers.
I am not saying that if a company did not have a plan, and people for network security that they are blameless, but no level of effort make you impervious, especially when you consider that users might be part of the weak link.  no matter how strong your security is, people will put their password under their keyboard, and people will also let someone through a door if their arms are full.



Now, do I think people should have pictures like this on the cloud?  no,  however today's generation  equate the cloud the same way previous generations think about a locked box in their house.  based on marketing there is an expected level of privacy, however, evil doers are very motivated, and are usually the ones who find vulnerabilities before the security engineers do.

BlackHat conference is such an education to the White hat community, that thousands attend this conference, and many positive uses or changes come from this. 

[Grant Lamontagne]

I think a much safer way to keep your naked photos safe is to be remarkably unattractive.

For example, a nude photo of me has been online for years and no one seems to care. 

Def

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[gorbag]

I don't blame the victims for having taken the photos, consenting adults and all.  If these sorts of things are what they like, that's their business.  It's not like they were specifically trying to announce the presence of the photos.  What I blame is the cult of celebrity.  Yes, it's true, actresses sometimes don't wear ANY CLOTHES AT ALL!

Does anyone sometimes wish for pre-internet days?  All the geewhiz technology seems to have security failings left and right, and while neeto and all, seems to open up realms of financial and personal ills unnecessarily.

[jerseydevil]

I think a much safer way to keep your naked photos safe is to be remarkably unattractive.

For example, a nude photo of me has been online for years and no one seems to care. 

Def

Oh, we care.  We're horrified we might come across it! 

[detron]

I think a much safer way to keep your naked photos safe is to be remarkably unattractive.

For example, a nude photo of me has been online for years and no one seems to care. 

Def

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that was the catalyst that got Google to add a "safe Search" option.

[Rux]

Does anyone sometimes wish for pre-internet days?  All the geewhiz technology seems to have security failings left and right, and while neeto and all, seems to open up realms of financial and personal ills unnecessarily.

Not so much in the way of security but with all the information thats now out there coupled with online bullying, my fiance and I say all the time that we're thankful there was no social media when we were in high school.

[zoidberg]

I think a much safer way to keep your naked photos safe is to be remarkably unattractive.

For example, a nude photo of me has been online for years and no one seems to care. 

Def

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that was the catalyst that got Google to add a "safe Search" option.

Sent from the land of the long white cloud.

[Grant Lamontagne]

I think a much safer way to keep your naked photos safe is to be remarkably unattractive.

For example, a nude photo of me has been online for years and no one seems to care. 

Def

Oh, we care.  We're horrified we might come across it! 

Jealous. .....

Def

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[detron]

I think a much safer way to keep your naked photos safe is to be remarkably unattractive.

For example, a nude photo of me has been online for years and no one seems to care. 

Def

Oh, we care.  We're horrified we might come across it! 

You are just mad because you liked it   

[jerseydevil]

   Don't forget which moderator is close to the mob planting grounds in the Meadowlands...... 

[detron]

  Don't forget which moderator is close to the mob planting grounds in the Meadowlands...... 

wow,  you are MADDER than I thought,  You must have REALLY liked it.   

[powernoodle]

I am embarrassed to report that some pics of my naked Juice XE6 were also leaked. 

[captain spaulding]

I am embarrassed to report that some pics of my naked Juice XE6 were also leaked. 

(Image removed from quote.)

 

[Aloha]

 

[Mercury]

I have sympathy for them to an extent.  But if you are ok taking pictures like that in the first place, then it should follow that you understand the possible risk of them being leaked.  That doesn't mean it's right to go after that stuff, because in my mind, hacking the accounts of those involved is exactly like taking a shot through a bedroom window, it's the action of a scumbag. 

[comis]

Now, do I think people should have pictures like this on the cloud?  no,  however today's generation  equate the cloud the same way previous generations think about a locked box in their house.  based on marketing there is an expected level of privacy, however, evil doers are very motivated, and are usually the ones who find vulnerabilities before the security engineers do.

BlackHat conference is such an education to the White hat community, that thousands attend this conference, and many positive uses or changes come from this. 

I think it's a 'mutual' fault on two sides--one side are those whom pry into other's privacy by hacking into the computer to get personal information/pictures, then boardcast it over the net.  It leave the person or his/her family vulnerable.

The other side is victims, whom may or may not know this may happen, and silly enough to think Big Apple is going to take care of everyone.  I am sure some of them probably didn't know exactly how those clouds work.  Or worst, they might have turned off the 'cloud' feature, and Apple is still collecting their data and hence causing this leak. 

I think a much safer way to keep your naked photos safe is to be remarkably unattractive.

For example, a nude photo of me has been online for years and no one seems to care. 

Def

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Nah, Grant, we do care.  I am sure many of us have yours in our harddisks.  And the funny part, if someone post one of your naughty pix, it will be forever linked to the 'celebrity photo leak' when people click google "image"   

[Etherealicer]

as a "White hat" hacker, I have a negative feeling about people who do illegal hacking (Crackers being a more correct moniker ).
as a society we have managed to blame the hacked person/group/corporation, instead of the evil doers.
I am not saying that if a company did not have a plan, and people for network security that they are blameless, but no level of effort make you impervious, especially when you consider that users might be part of the weak link.  no matter how strong your security is, people will put their password under their keyboard, and people will also let someone through a door if their arms are full.



Now, do I think people should have pictures like this on the cloud?  no,  however today's generation  equate the cloud the same way previous generations think about a locked box in their house.  based on marketing there is an expected level of privacy, however, evil doers are very motivated, and are usually the ones who find vulnerabilities before the security engineers do.

BlackHat conference is such an education to the White hat community, that thousands attend this conference, and many positive uses or changes come from this.

Yup, it was a brute force attack, so by having a slightly more complicated password, this could have been prevented. Of course the iCloud should not allow that many attempts, so Apple is to blame too.

[detron]

as a "White hat" hacker, I have a negative feeling about people who do illegal hacking (Crackers being a more correct moniker ).
as a society we have managed to blame the hacked person/group/corporation, instead of the evil doers.
I am not saying that if a company did not have a plan, and people for network security that they are blameless, but no level of effort make you impervious, especially when you consider that users might be part of the weak link.  no matter how strong your security is, people will put their password under their keyboard, and people will also let someone through a door if their arms are full.



Now, do I think people should have pictures like this on the cloud?  no,  however today's generation  equate the cloud the same way previous generations think about a locked box in their house.  based on marketing there is an expected level of privacy, however, evil doers are very motivated, and are usually the ones who find vulnerabilities before the security engineers do.

BlackHat conference is such an education to the White hat community, that thousands attend this conference, and many positive uses or changes come from this.

Yup, it was a brute force attack, so by having a slightly more complicated password, this could have been prevented. Of course the iCloud should not allow that many attempts, so Apple is to blame too.

Most brute force is done offline.   You get the hash and run lists of possible passwords through the same encryption algorithm as the encrypted data used.   When you get a hash that matches a hash you have,  then what every input gave you that hash is the password, for that user.   

sent from phone

[Etherealicer]

as a "White hat" hacker, I have a negative feeling about people who do illegal hacking (Crackers being a more correct moniker ).
as a society we have managed to blame the hacked person/group/corporation, instead of the evil doers.
I am not saying that if a company did not have a plan, and people for network security that they are blameless, but no level of effort make you impervious, especially when you consider that users might be part of the weak link.  no matter how strong your security is, people will put their password under their keyboard, and people will also let someone through a door if their arms are full.



Now, do I think people should have pictures like this on the cloud?  no,  however today's generation  equate the cloud the same way previous generations think about a locked box in their house.  based on marketing there is an expected level of privacy, however, evil doers are very motivated, and are usually the ones who find vulnerabilities before the security engineers do.

BlackHat conference is such an education to the White hat community, that thousands attend this conference, and many positive uses or changes come from this.

Yup, it was a brute force attack, so by having a slightly more complicated password, this could have been prevented. Of course the iCloud should not allow that many attempts, so Apple is to blame too.

Most brute force is done offline.   You get the hash and run lists of possible passwords through the same encryption algorithm as the encrypted data used.   When you get a hash that matches a hash you have,  then what every input gave you that hash is the password, for that user.   

sent from phone

True, but from my understanding, they exploited a flaw in the iPhone locating app and actually did it online. But thats just what I read, small chance that Apple will tell us what really happened.