Leatherman Leap

[sawman]

I wonder if on the new one they'll replace that saw with a file or something... 

[Chako]

Thanks Ashley.

Yes, waiting for the new changes...whatever they may be, is a bit of a nail biter for me.

[RobJones]

I dont think it has been cancelled, someone asked leatherman on their facebook page the other day when it will be released, and they said next week it will be shipped here in australia

[Kukamunga]

I'm not doing much on here currently, but I did call LM today.  Thinking fantasy-land-like that they'd tell me the Leap is available -- and did I want them to ship it next day [nephew's 8th b-day] for free.      

So, uh - no.  They're now talking end of month/early December.  'Hoping' is the word she used.

At any rate, 'hoping' I can get it to him for X-Mas.  He and another nephew [well - I have until April for him].  I'm assuming [rightly, I think] that they'll have it done by April, right?   

 

[Chako]

That sounds like a major change rather then some small revision.

[Syph007]

Thats a bummer, but it makes me all the more curious about what's getting changed.... 

[eamo]

thats a big time bummer, christmas is looking less and less likely ! 

[Cupboard]

it's not like the Leap was out for very long before they were recalled, so I wonder what could have turned up in that time that couldn't have been found out before they were released?

[Syph007]

Well the only major thing on this tool vs the others is that installable blade system.  Someone probably cut themselves installing or trying to uninstall it.

[Chako]

I agree. I quickly found out that the blade protector was very easy to disengage from the blade.

[Syph007]

You know what might be a smarter system?  Have the blade installed normally, but have some retaining pin or something that holds it in so that it cant be opened until the pin is removed.  There are a few ways I can think of implementing that so that its kid proof but an adult could remove it.

[Kampfer]

You know what might be a smarter system?  Have the blade installed normally, but have some retaining pin or something that holds it in so that it cant be opened until the pin is removed.  There are a few ways I can think of implementing that so that its kid proof but an adult could remove it.

[Lynn LeFey]

Good idea, syph. It could be as simple as a screw that goes through the blade, bolting it to the metal underframe. Use a torx head screw, something like that. Simple, and pretty darn kid-proof.

[Syph007]

Good idea, syph. It could be as simple as a screw that goes through the blade, bolting it to the metal underframe. Use a torx head screw, something like that. Simple, and pretty darn kid-proof.

Exactly, I was thinking of a set screw, and just include a simple L shaped key to remove.

[Etherealicer]

The "problem" of a disabled blade might be, that it still has a blade, so still a no go in school, camp etc...

[tosh]

I'm baffled as to why leatherman even built the Leap in the first place. They celebrated their 30th anniversary not long ago, 30yrs at the top is pretty good, why they thought they needed to launch this is a mystery. There are far more technically challenging ideas and concepts they could have concentrated on without venturing into the kiddie market.

From the likes of the Genus and the MUT to the leap I think that's ass backwards personally.

It's the type of half baked idea you'd expect from China or Taiwan

[captain spaulding]

I'm baffled as to why leatherman even built the Leap in the first place. They celebrated their 30th anniversary not long ago, 30yrs at the top is pretty good, why they thought they needed to launch this is a mystery. There are far more technically challenging ideas and concepts they could have concentrated on without venturing into the kiddie market.

From the likes of the Genus and the MUT to the leap I think that's ass backwards personally.

It's the type of half baked idea you'd expect from China or Taiwan

While I do not typically agree with the Leap or many of Leathermans decisions in the last year or so I do see why they would market a tool towards kids. First off every kid wants a Leatherman like daddy, but they normally do not get them at a younger age due to fear of the kids not handling them safely or properly. The Leap would address this. On top of that it is getting the kids familiar with the Leatherman name and tools so when they grow up they will want to buy Leatherman products. Almost like the cigarette companies do to children with advertising. Get to the kids young and brain wash them into buying your product. Lastly I would hope they genuinely care about kids and want them to have a tool to be able to call their own and learn to use a tool and blade safely.

[tosh]

I'm baffled as to why leatherman even built the Leap in the first place. They celebrated their 30th anniversary not long ago, 30yrs at the top is pretty good, why they thought they needed to launch this is a mystery. There are far more technically challenging ideas and concepts they could have concentrated on without venturing into the kiddie market.

From the likes of the Genus and the MUT to the leap I think that's ass backwards personally.

It's the type of half baked idea you'd expect from China or Taiwan

While I do not typically agree with the Leap or many of Leathermans decisions in the last year or so I do see why they would market a tool towards kids. First off every kid wants a Leatherman like daddy, but they normally do not get them at a younger age due to fear of the kids not handling them safely or properly. The Leap would address this. On top of that it is getting the kids familiar with the Leatherman name and tools so when they grow up they will want to buy Leatherman products. Almost like the cigarette companies do to children with advertising. Get to the kids young and brain wash them into buying your product. Lastly I would hope they genuinely care about kids and want them to have a tool to be able to call their own and learn to use a tool and blade safely.

Capt'n I'm agreeing with you, it seems to be the logical assumption for the leap.
But why make them look so toy like, with the coloured plastic handles, if leatherman are serious with the kiddie concept then would it not be better to make it not look like a toy. If kids are to learn anything about knives its imperritive they know they are certainly not toys. I'm not turning this into an argument I'm merely typing as it comes into my head. Both Victorinox and Wenger have rolled out the junior SAKs, but they kept the standard SAK like appearance but rounded off the blade, whereas leatherman have done the exact opposite made it look  like a toy but kept the pointed blade.

As a first knife I know which one I'd choose to give to a child.

[captain spaulding]

I'm baffled as to why leatherman even built the Leap in the first place. They celebrated their 30th anniversary not long ago, 30yrs at the top is pretty good, why they thought they needed to launch this is a mystery. There are far more technically challenging ideas and concepts they could have concentrated on without venturing into the kiddie market.

From the likes of the Genus and the MUT to the leap I think that's ass backwards personally.

It's the type of half baked idea you'd expect from China or Taiwan

While I do not typically agree with the Leap or many of Leathermans decisions in the last year or so I do see why they would market a tool towards kids. First off every kid wants a Leatherman like daddy, but they normally do not get them at a younger age due to fear of the kids not handling them safely or properly. The Leap would address this. On top of that it is getting the kids familiar with the Leatherman name and tools so when they grow up they will want to buy Leatherman products. Almost like the cigarette companies do to children with advertising. Get to the kids young and brain wash them into buying your product. Lastly I would hope they genuinely care about kids and want them to have a tool to be able to call their own and learn to use a tool and blade safely.

Capt'n I'm agreeing with you, it seems to be the logical assumption for the leap.
But why make them look so toy like, with the coloured plastic handles, if leatherman are serious with the kiddie concept then would it not be better to make it not look like a toy. If kids are to learn anything about knives its imperritive they know they are certainly not toys. I'm not turning this into an argument I'm merely typing as it comes into my head. Both Victorinox and Wenger have rolled out the junior SAKs, but they kept the standard SAK like appearance but rounded off the blade, whereas leatherman have done the exact opposite made it look  like a toy but kept the pointed blade.

As a first knife I know which one I'd choose to give to a child.

I know what you mean and completely agree with you. 

[kalans]

I would love to snag one for my kid, but in many years we may having something better

[Mercury]

I'm with Tosh, they made it look like a toy entirely.  My son is already very interested in my leatherman tools, and wants one.  He knows what they are, and that they can cut him badly if he treats them like a toy.  His first will most likely be a juice or something down the line, and I will round the blade off myself.  I want him to respect his tool, and keep it away from his little sister, who would take one look at the leap and think it WAS a toy. 

[eamo]

I'm baffled as to why leatherman even built the Leap in the first place. They celebrated their 30th anniversary not long ago, 30yrs at the top is pretty good, why they thought they needed to launch this is a mystery. There are far more technically challenging ideas and concepts they could have concentrated on without venturing into the kiddie market.

From the likes of the Genus and the MUT to the leap I think that's ass backwards personally.

It's the type of half baked idea you'd expect from China or Taiwan

While I do not typically agree with the Leap or many of Leathermans decisions in the last year or so I do see why they would market a tool towards kids. First off every kid wants a Leatherman like daddy, but they normally do not get them at a younger age due to fear of the kids not handling them safely or properly. The Leap would address this. On top of that it is getting the kids familiar with the Leatherman name and tools so when they grow up they will want to buy Leatherman products. Almost like the cigarette companies do to children with advertising. Get to the kids young and brain wash them into buying your product. Lastly I would hope they genuinely care about kids and want them to have a tool to be able to call their own and learn to use a tool and blade safely.

Capt'n I'm agreeing with you, it seems to be the logical assumption for the leap.
But why make them look so toy like, with the coloured plastic handles, if leatherman are serious with the kiddie concept then would it not be better to make it not look like a toy. If kids are to learn anything about knives its imperritive they know they are certainly not toys. I'm not turning this into an argument I'm merely typing as it comes into my head. Both Victorinox and Wenger have rolled out the junior SAKs, but they kept the standard SAK like appearance but rounded off the blade, whereas leatherman have done the exact opposite made it look  like a toy but kept the pointed blade.

As a first knife I know which one I'd choose to give to a child.

I know what you mean and completely agree with you. 

well, as someone who is looking to buy one of these for my daughter, one of the attractions is the smaller size for her hands - regarding the look of it as a toy, well, she knows it is a knife/saw/sharp implement and that it can bite her accordingly if she is not careful. And the colours are part of the attraction for her, as opposed to a tool such as the squirt which is what i was originally going to get her until we discovered the leap (and this forum )

[Kampfer]

Welcome to MTO!

[eamo]

Welcome to MTO!

thank you

[eamo]

https://www.leatherman.com/SafetyRecall.html

[firiki]

I'm sure they can do better than that.

[Cupboard]

I refer to my previous question. How did they only notice this in the month it was on sale, when they had what looked like pretty complete prototypes at the SHOT show which could have been tested all year.

Hazard:

The lock mechanism on the optional knife blade can inadvertently release the blade, posing a laceration hazard.

Remedy

Consumers should not install the optional knife blade or should immediately stop using the multi-tool with the installed optional knife. Consumers should contact Leatherman for a free replacement multi-tool, including shipping. 

So it's a problem that occurs once the knife is installed in the tool.
Can someone that's got a Leap have a look at the lock and see how it all goes together? Is there something obviously wrong?

[Chako]

Nothing obvious...which would explain how they got out into the wilds before the recall.

I suspect someone somewhere reported they were able to remove the blade once it was installed.

[Syph007]

The blade lock can release the blade.  Does that mean let the blade close into the tool, or does the blade fall out off the tool?

Sounds like they probably mean the blade closes and the lock mech fails, but thats pretty sad that wasnt caught in testing.

[eamo]

so Guys, anyone have any info on when/whether we'll see any anytime soon ? the middle of november has been and gone