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us Offline Breezy12

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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #30 on: September 21, 2014, 11:05:57 PM
It's just not done right.  It's kind of a half assed effort, more of a gimmick than a practical tool for it's intended usage and audience.  If a kid is old enough and mature enough to handle a saw, then a blade shouldn't be a concern.  They don't seem to outline the age group it's aimed at, but I would say more like an 8 year old than a 6 year old.   And I agree with you Dan, it totally looks more like something Gerber would put out.  I would like to handle one myself, but I won't give one to my kid.

just FYI, on the Leatherman site, the description states that the Leap is intended for ages 9 and up.


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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #31 on: September 22, 2014, 04:01:43 AM
It's just not done right.  It's kind of a half assed effort, more of a gimmick than a practical tool for it's intended usage and audience.  If a kid is old enough and mature enough to handle a saw, then a blade shouldn't be a concern.  They don't seem to outline the age group it's aimed at, but I would say more like an 8 year old than a 6 year old.   And I agree with you Dan, it totally looks more like something Gerber would put out.  I would like to handle one myself, but I won't give one to my kid.

just FYI, on the Leatherman site, the description states that the Leap is intended for ages 9 and up.


I just found that, the one that comes up if you click the first banner doesn't detail the age definition.


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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #32 on: September 22, 2014, 08:39:09 PM
I think the optional knife is more of a political than a practical move.  A knife--particularly a pocket knife--is stigmatized as a weapon, while saws and scissors aren't.

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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #33 on: September 27, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
Eh, I've been recovering from emergency surgery [it flipping happens....] and was going to take the dive/leap for the leap for two nephews of mine.  So, now -- I can't find the LEAP anywhere.

As it turns out, there was a Cabela's link for the Leap in particular.  Says it's no longer available online and to call if you want to purchase.  Well, per Cabela's, LM has issued a safety recall for the Leap.  No idea what the problem is, but you cannot find it now...and it must have been very recent, because I had checked this past week for places to buy.

Anyway, I've not heard of a recall on a LM product before.  Now, they've come out with the first tool for kidlets - hope all is well.

At any rate - FYI.   ???
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #34 on: September 27, 2014, 09:10:25 PM
:oops:

This is a bit worrying. :-\

And the LM website, although having it on their site with a price of $49.85 list it as "THIS ITEM IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE."


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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #35 on: September 27, 2014, 10:13:43 PM
I bet someone got cut trying to install the separate blade...
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #36 on: September 27, 2014, 11:32:07 PM
The ones that are not returned will be collectors items if they do pull it off the shelves
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #37 on: September 28, 2014, 12:22:37 AM
:oops:

This is a bit worrying. :-\

And the LM website, although having it on their site with a price of $49.85 list it as "THIS ITEM IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE."

I just checked, and for me it says "Coming Soon!". I do wonder though... The text also mentions "a two-hand opening knife blade for safer deployment" - is that new, or? Both Chako's images and the images on LM's site, show the knife blade with a thumbhole, that looks ideal for OHO.


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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #38 on: September 28, 2014, 12:41:49 AM
Interesting.  :popcorn:


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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #39 on: September 28, 2014, 01:47:55 AM
Holding onto mine even tighter now...if that is possible.  :facepalm:
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #40 on: September 28, 2014, 01:51:22 AM
I had serious concerns about that blade tang when I first saw it. I wonder if it's anything to do with that  :think:

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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #41 on: September 28, 2014, 01:52:57 AM
Holding onto mine even tighter now...if that is possible.  :facepalm:

Maybe you don't want to hold them too tight.  :D


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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #42 on: September 28, 2014, 01:54:24 AM
Holding onto mine even tighter now...if that is possible.  :facepalm:

Maybe you don't want to hold them too tight.  :D

Good call!  :D


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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #43 on: September 28, 2014, 02:12:49 AM
 :multi::skull::think:

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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #44 on: September 28, 2014, 02:12:49 AM
Holding onto mine even tighter now...if that is possible.  :facepalm:

Hey, they have quite a distinction now:  they're your only recalled Leatherman models.  You'll need to get the re-releases too, though. ;)  :multi:


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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #45 on: September 28, 2014, 02:13:05 AM
 :facepalm:
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #46 on: September 28, 2014, 02:13:33 AM
My guesses.

1.  Plastic blade holder fails and installer gets cut installing blade
2.  Since blade only has half a pivot where the pivot hole is, it's weak and fails easy and breaks
3.  Someone took the 'challenge' to remove the blade after install and cut themselves real bad
4.  They realized the saw is super dangerous for a 'kids' tool

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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #47 on: September 28, 2014, 05:09:30 AM
Well...you just hope no one was hurt.  I can honestly say that I'm glad I didn't buy them, but moreover that they weren't handed out as gifts.  That being said, clearly it depends on what was wrong.

Hopefully, it was just a design flaw that was caught 'in time'.
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #48 on: September 28, 2014, 06:11:43 AM
The fact that they marketed them towards kids I'm sure brought all sorts of unforeseen possibilities and issues. On top of that, there are also people out there who, instead of teaching proper etiquette and tool handling, will just give it to their kid and then blame the company when something inevitably goes wrong.

Not that I'm saying that's the case, but it's definitely one that could have to result in swift action from Leatherman.
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #49 on: September 28, 2014, 11:50:54 AM
The fact that I have 3 of them bellies the caught just in time statement. :D
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #50 on: September 28, 2014, 02:21:59 PM
This is alarming, lets just hope no one was hurt and LM is just being overly cautious here. 

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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #51 on: September 28, 2014, 02:27:12 PM
Right.  I meant that the term 'in time' might be a rather broad heading.  Then add various perspectives - and, as mentioned, dingle berries who toss the tool to their kids with zero guidelines...mix it all up and that there's one o' them there toxic milkshakes.
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #52 on: September 30, 2014, 02:28:40 AM
3.  Someone took the 'challenge' to remove the blade after install and cut themselves real bad

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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #53 on: September 30, 2014, 02:46:54 AM
My guess is the locking mechanism for the blade and saw are faulty and with enough pressure can fold on the user. Purely a guess though.
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #54 on: September 30, 2014, 02:59:25 AM
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author=captain spaulding link=topic=54670.msg956344#msg956344 date=1412038014]
My guess is the locking mechanism for the blade and saw are faulty and with enough pressure can fold on the user. Purely a guess though.

I was thinking this also.

to easy to disengage maybe

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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #55 on: October 01, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
Has anyone found out what the recall was for?
It would appear to be global - so it must be something pretty major.
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #56 on: October 01, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
I'm glad I got mine when I did!
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #57 on: October 01, 2014, 08:42:38 PM
Now I wish i ordered one to play with.  Who knows how long the wait will be till they re-release.
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #58 on: October 01, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
Now I wish i ordered one to play with.  Who knows how long the wait will be till they re-release.
Wouldn't it be something if they didn't re-release it....
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Re: Leatherman Leap
Reply #59 on: October 01, 2014, 09:01:29 PM
Has anyone found out what the recall was for?
It would appear to be global - so it must be something pretty major.

I called LM yesterday - just because I can't help myself.  I was told that they're behind in production - because the response was so overwhelming.  Without reading too much into it, she did sound nervous.  I did not mention that I'd heard of a recall.  At any rate, she was talking 'at LEAST a couple of months'.  About all I can say is, 'Hmmmmmmm....'.  My knee-jerk reaction is - whether a user was hurt or not - that they're freaking out a bit, on some level or another.  I mean - that...withdrawal of availability was quick.  I believe I had checked maybe Thursday last and by Friday - whoosh - gone.

I had just told the parents about it too - to make sure it was something that they'd be OK with for their two boys.  Twenty minutes later I'm emailing them about the recall.  I get no response -  ::) - like it's my fault.  So, even if they come out again, I may be the one rethinking the purchase.  For reasons other than the recall.

Anyway, I was vicariously excited for the two boys.  I remember getting that pocket knife at about 9 y.o. or so and it was a big deal.  I couldn't even imagine getting something like the Leap.  Oh, well....
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