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Bear Grylls Ultimate Multi-Tool video review. Cure for loose pliers?

us Offline parnass

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I found this video review on Youtube.

Is there a way to tighten the loose pliers cited by this reviewer?  Using a hammer and punch to "mushroom" the pliers pivot comes to mind, but that might fracture the casting.

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This is why Gerber should STOP making internally sprung plier heads.
  • Having sprung pliers is really nice  :tu:
  • Putting the springs inside the head around the pivot is really dumb  :td:
What happens is the reduced surface area on the internals inside leads to increased wear and potential deformation, and my MP700's have seen this happen too. The sprung pliers should be considered lighter duty than non-sprung pliers. You might try the hammer and punch method to remove a bit of the slack, but this fix won't last too long, and eventually the wear will increase until the pivot can visably slide fore and aft. If the tool is expected to work hard for a living, then really a different tool should be considered which does not have this construction.

This is an area where Gerber have not impressed me - I'm just fortunate to be able to get away with it for most of my pliers usage. I was REALLY disappointed to hear they had done the same thing on the MP1. Why go to the trouble and expense of making forged pliers, and then hollow them out  to put a spring in  :facepalm:

What a set of puddings!!!  :megaslap:


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I feel bad for the poor guy.  That is NOT a well constructed tool though and is budget priced.  Too bad he lost his leatherman. :D 

He could try to peen that rivet a bit, but that would risk braking it all together since its weak inside.

Thats a really good review/warning overall though.
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I must say I haven't been impressed with anything labeled 'bear grylls' seems like trying to use a celebrity to sell products instead of building the top of the line products for the particular price point. I've seen it a million times.


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I must say I haven't been impressed with anything labeled 'bear grylls' seems like trying to use a celebrity to sell products instead of building the top of the line products for the particular price point. I've seen it a million times.


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This tool is effectively just another rebadged Suspension (different handles) so not something that was specifically produced for the BG line, So far I've not had any issues with the BG Strata (again a rebadged current tool) but that's internally sprung too, so time will tell


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This is why Gerber should STOP making internally sprung plier heads.
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What happens is the reduced surface area on the internals inside leads to increased wear and potential deformation ...
I was REALLY disappointed to hear they had done the same thing on the MP1. Why go to the trouble and expense of making forged pliers, and then hollow them out  to put a spring in  :facepalm:

Thanks for explaining the situation with internal plier springs.   I had been weighing the pros and cons of purchasing a Gerber MP1.   You just added to the con list.
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This is why Gerber should STOP making internally sprung plier heads.
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What happens is the reduced surface area on the internals inside leads to increased wear and potential deformation ...
I was REALLY disappointed to hear they had done the same thing on the MP1. Why go to the trouble and expense of making forged pliers, and then hollow them out  to put a spring in  :facepalm:

Thanks for explaining the situation with internal plier springs.   I had been weighing the pros and cons of purchasing a Gerber MP1.   You just added to the con list.

It may be that the forged heads are more resistant to the wear and plastic deformation than the cast ones, but they're too pricey an item for me to find out the hard way. Had these heads been done properly, I'd have no qualms about considering them for heavier duty work - but with "hollow" pivots, who knows :shrug:


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