Simplicity of a Kick or Complete Package of a Rebar?

[ToolJoe]

  I am going back and forth between getting a Kick and a Rebar. I like the simplicity of a Kick and on the same hand like the complete package that a Rebar offers. Any insight here?

[gregozedobe]

C'mon, you've seen all the enablers in action here, so you must already know the logical response ...............  BUY BOTH !!!!      

[Kampfer]

Answer this question first: Why you EDC a MT? 

Convenient: Kick
Preparedness: Rebar

[houstondiscdog]

In order to have a well rounded rotation, might I suggest 3? 

[Jan]

You have convenience, preparedness, go for completeness, get both and a few more.

[sir_mike]

If I remember right the Kick doesnt have locking blades so if you still want to keep it simple, how about a Fuse?

[tosh]

If I remember right the Kick doesnt have locking blades so if you still want to keep it simple, how about a Fuse?

Or get the extra layer and grab the Blast!, but then you need to check out the wave too...a classic if ever there was one, seeing as we are now looking at waves it wouldn't hurt to look at the charges too! Gorgeous them charges aren't they?? But that weight is almost on par with some of the big guns. How about we try out a supertool 300, see it's not that bad is it. Now that's a tool, is that  . Still missing those OHO blades, let's try the surge... Oh man!!  isn't she a beauty!! wait at this price point it's seems silly not to take a closer look at the MUT..WOW, now that's the pups nuts is that.

So...which one

[captain spaulding]

I would definitely go with the Rebar. Its basically the same size as the Kick. Probably shorter even and packs in a incredible amount of tools.

[kirk13]

Get Fuse or a Blast

Locking tools,( and the Rebar posse are about to fetch the pitch forks and light the torches) and far better fit and finish,albeit longer package than the Rebar.

[Lynn LeFey]

Another vote for the Rebar. I had, and got rid of, a Kick. It was light, but very meager in tool options.

For the added 1.5 oz of weight, the Rebar gives you much more tools, and locking ones at that.

[hiraethus]

I like 'em both, but neither's perfect IMO.  The Kick has the great 3D driver but also too much dead space and the handles aren't that comfy (unless you take the sharp edges off the Zytel).  It needs a file or saw to be complete.  The Rebar has too many blades and not enough scissors.  And no pocket clip.

Get a Sprit.

[AimlessWanderer]

The main clue here is that peoples opinions differ already. You won't know which side of the fence you fall on until you have used the tools yourself. Start off by buying the Kick, basically because it's discontinued and there is more chance of ensuring you can get a Rebar later if you feel the Kick is not working out for you. The Kick is still covered by Leatherman's warranty, but will be replaced with a different tool if you send it in for warranty and they are unable to repair it.

For other popular tools of the same size, check out Gerber MP400 and Victorinox Spirit. For something a little different in the size range there's the SOG Pocket Power Plier which will let you cusomise the loadout or maybe even a Gerber Strata

[Aloha]

I have a Kick that does see some pocket time.  I like the very simple tool set and despite it not being locking it has performed just fine.  The PST was a non locking MT and people got a long with it.  I dont find the Zytel on mine to be an issue I actually have more issues with my JPSTs handles. 

If you are looking at a simple MT there are some goos one out there.  The Sideclip comes to mind ( retired and spendy ), PST and PST2, the PPP, and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few. 

The Rebar is a great tool when you might want to have something to cover many what if's.  So as a few have mentioned already why not get both?       

[Kampfer]

Kick, along with Sideclip, Skeletool, Octane, Crucial, etc are referred as minimalist multi-tool aka KPD (Kinfe-Piliers-Drivers), they cover your most basic daily needs, for convenient.

Other full size MT have features for "just in case" scenarios.

That is why I asked you earlier what is the reason you EDC a MT? Convenient or Preparedness

[av8r1]

If I had to choose between a Kick and a Rebar, I would choose a Fuse.

 

[ironraven]

You need the full package- get both, add a Crunch.

If just one, the Rebar.

[Lichtbote]

If I had to choose between a Kick and a Rebar, I would choose a Fuse.

 

  No Blast? 

[Pinnah]

Kick, along with Sideclip, Skeletool, Octane, Crucial, etc are referred as minimalist multi-tool aka KPD (Kinfe-Piliers-Drivers), they cover your most basic daily needs, for convenient.

Other full size MT have features for "just in case" scenarios.

That is why I asked you earlier what is the reason you EDC a MT? Convenient or Preparedness

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IMO, the Kick and tools like it are tweener tools, combining the worst of both worlds.  Really too big to pocket carry.

And once you move up to holster carry or "in your pack" carry, might as well just move up to a full sized MT with full selection of tools.

I think a better question among full sized MTs is external knife blade or not.

[AimlessWanderer]

Kick, along with Sideclip, Skeletool, Octane, Crucial, etc are referred as minimalist multi-tool aka KPD (Kinfe-Piliers-Drivers), they cover your most basic daily needs, for convenient.

Other full size MT have features for "just in case" scenarios.

That is why I asked you earlier what is the reason you EDC a MT? Convenient or Preparedness

^^ THIS  ^^


IMO, the Kick and tools like it are tweener tools, combining the worst of both worlds.  Really too big to pocket carry.

And once you move up to holster carry or "in your pack" carry, might as well just move up to a full sized MT with full selection of tools.

I think a better question among full sized MTs is external knife blade tools or not.

Fixed  Why stop at the knife blade 

[Pinnah]

I find on my Wave, the only tool I need to access quickly is the knife blade.  I treat my Wave knife blade as "dirty" blade.  Typical use would be doing yard work and opening bags of fertilizer or bug poison.  Grab tool from holster, deploy blade, cut, put away - all of this is one-handed and fast.   With my Blast (or other traditional MTs), getting out the knife blade is a two-handed affair.

I guess I should have clarified my post better by saying the decision is whether or not you need one-hand open/close of a knife blade with an MT.

On all other tools, I have no problem stopping what I'm doing and selecting a tool and I don't care if they're on the inside or the outside. Putting it another way, I've never deployed the file on my Wave and was particularly grateful that it's on the outside.  Nor have I deployed the file on my Blast and thought, "Dang, I wish I was that was the outside."

I should further clarify.... I keep my Wave in a clip on holster and carry it on jobs where I need the tool with me for the day and in that case, I prefer the external knife.   I keep my Blast in my pack and use it as a tool box replacement for EDC carry.  I don't need it often (like I do when I'm working) but when I do, I don't mind the internal tools.   Also, I always have a true single blade knife in my pocket that I use for non-chemical filth things like wood working and food.

[Philby]

Go retro, get a PST or PST II.

[av8r1]

If I had to choose between a Kick and a Rebar, I would choose a Fuse.

 

  No Blast? 

Nah,  too heavy for EDC.

[smiller43147]

Another vote for a Fuse.  Pretty basic, yet it has all the necessary stuff (and locking tools).

[zoidberg]

Rebar for the plier head. 

[AimlessWanderer]

Rebar for the plier head. 

*shudders*

Kick for the plier head

 

[David]

ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar!   

[Kampfer]

ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar, ToolJoe you need a Rebar!   

Agreeagreeagreeagreeagreeagreeeagree

[jzmtl]

If I recall kick wasn't much smaller than rebar, several slots are taken up by plastic spacers.

[zoidberg]

Rebar for the plier head. 

*shudders*

Kick for the plier head

 

I did have doubts to start with. But after six months of use I have to give the nod to the Rebar plier head. 

[AimlessWanderer]