With my first leatherman I had to get a bit holder because I was worried that the the screw drivers would wore out quickly, but using the crap out of that bit that was supplied with my MUT I is still in great condition.After selling my MUT I got a leatherman rebar and to my surprise I liked the screw drivers allot more.I first thought that the Supertool 300 and the Rebar had useless tools because the handles where basically filled with flat head screwdrivers.But the screw drivers can do allot more than just turn flat head screws.After receiving my new wave 3 days ago I am back to the bit driver. I still use the old bit that came with my MUT, that bit has seen a lot of use and abuse and is still in great shape.Of course the reach of the fixed screw drivers is better and screw drivers almost never wear out.So what is your preference? Bit driver or fixed screw drivers? Have you had any positive or negative experience with one? Breaking, chipping, bending falling off the bit holder?
Quote from: anditsgone on March 01, 2015, 03:13:05 PMWith my first leatherman I had to get a bit holder because I was worried that the the screw drivers would wore out quickly, but using the crap out of that bit that was supplied with my MUT I is still in great condition.After selling my MUT I got a leatherman rebar and to my surprise I liked the screw drivers allot more.I first thought that the Supertool 300 and the Rebar had useless tools because the handles where basically filled with flat head screwdrivers.But the screw drivers can do allot more than just turn flat head screws.After receiving my new wave 3 days ago I am back to the bit driver. I still use the old bit that came with my MUT, that bit has seen a lot of use and abuse and is still in great shape.Of course the reach of the fixed screw drivers is better and screw drivers almost never wear out.So what is your preference? Bit driver or fixed screw drivers? Have you had any positive or negative experience with one? Breaking, chipping, bending falling off the bit holder?I go both
I like both. The bit driver was the reason I went with the Wave over a Blast back when I was buying my first Leatherman. I recently modded my Wave to have the fixed Philips in addition to the bit driver. However, since my Wave is my on-duty multitool and as such always has a large contingent of supporting tools and bits with it in my Skinth, I am giving serious consideration to taking the bit driver off the Wave and just carrying the removable bit driver in my Skinth. I find that in my use, about 80% of my screwdriver use is Philips, 19% is flat, and the other 1% is anything else. So I think for me, I don't really NEED the bit driver taking up space in my Wave's handles if I can keep the capability by just adding the removable bit driver when and if I need it.
I absolutely love the LM bits and have found in my 2 years of use no noticeable wear and no chipping, rounding, or wear. To extend the reach of the tool I use the bit extender which has a side benefit other than extended reach and it's being able to use standard 1/4 bits.It's true the bit extender means toting another piece but in my I wouldn't leave it out. I have narrowed down what bits I carry.
Quote from: rdub934 on March 01, 2015, 04:46:48 PMI like both. The bit driver was the reason I went with the Wave over a Blast back when I was buying my first Leatherman. I recently modded my Wave to have the fixed Philips in addition to the bit driver. However, since my Wave is my on-duty multitool and as such always has a large contingent of supporting tools and bits with it in my Skinth, I am giving serious consideration to taking the bit driver off the Wave and just carrying the removable bit driver in my Skinth. I find that in my use, about 80% of my screwdriver use is Philips, 19% is flat, and the other 1% is anything else. So I think for me, I don't really NEED the bit driver taking up space in my Wave's handles if I can keep the capability by just adding the removable bit driver when and if I need it.I am planning to do the same to my wave, how did you fit in the philips screw driver? have you taken out the saftey pin for the knife or snapped/grinded the plier resting pin away?Could you send a picture of how the Philips driver rests in the handle?
Quote from: anditsgone on March 01, 2015, 04:51:16 PMQuote from: rdub934 on March 01, 2015, 04:46:48 PMI like both. The bit driver was the reason I went with the Wave over a Blast back when I was buying my first Leatherman. I recently modded my Wave to have the fixed Philips in addition to the bit driver. However, since my Wave is my on-duty multitool and as such always has a large contingent of supporting tools and bits with it in my Skinth, I am giving serious consideration to taking the bit driver off the Wave and just carrying the removable bit driver in my Skinth. I find that in my use, about 80% of my screwdriver use is Philips, 19% is flat, and the other 1% is anything else. So I think for me, I don't really NEED the bit driver taking up space in my Wave's handles if I can keep the capability by just adding the removable bit driver when and if I need it.I am planning to do the same to my wave, how did you fit in the philips screw driver? have you taken out the saftey pin for the knife or snapped/grinded the plier resting pin away?Could you send a picture of how the Philips driver rests in the handle?I just snapped the post off. I need to grind it down a bit in order to get the tool to close up completely but it is good enough for now, until I have an opportunity to do it properly. I would like to end up with Philips and can opener in one handle, and Medium flat, small flat, and awl in the other handle.
Quote from: Aloha007 on March 01, 2015, 05:43:49 PMI absolutely love the LM bits and have found in my 2 years of use no noticeable wear and no chipping, rounding, or wear. To extend the reach of the tool I use the bit extender which has a side benefit other than extended reach and it's being able to use standard 1/4 bits.It's true the bit extender means toting another piece but in my I wouldn't leave it out. I have narrowed down what bits I carry. I also have been thinking of buying the bit kit but because i live in europe half of the bits are unuseble.
Quote from: rdub934 on March 01, 2015, 06:08:34 PMQuote from: anditsgone on March 01, 2015, 04:51:16 PMQuote from: rdub934 on March 01, 2015, 04:46:48 PMI like both. The bit driver was the reason I went with the Wave over a Blast back when I was buying my first Leatherman. I recently modded my Wave to have the fixed Philips in addition to the bit driver. However, since my Wave is my on-duty multitool and as such always has a large contingent of supporting tools and bits with it in my Skinth, I am giving serious consideration to taking the bit driver off the Wave and just carrying the removable bit driver in my Skinth. I find that in my use, about 80% of my screwdriver use is Philips, 19% is flat, and the other 1% is anything else. So I think for me, I don't really NEED the bit driver taking up space in my Wave's handles if I can keep the capability by just adding the removable bit driver when and if I need it.I am planning to do the same to my wave, how did you fit in the philips screw driver? have you taken out the saftey pin for the knife or snapped/grinded the plier resting pin away?Could you send a picture of how the Philips driver rests in the handle?I just snapped the post off. I need to grind it down a bit in order to get the tool to close up completely but it is good enough for now, until I have an opportunity to do it properly. I would like to end up with Philips and can opener in one handle, and Medium flat, small flat, and awl in the other handle.I have the same problem, the space in the wave handles are very limited.Could you sent a picture of how far the Philips head extends in the tool? Does it come past the rivet, does it sit on the rivet or does it stop just in front of the rivet.
Quote from: anditsgone on March 01, 2015, 05:49:10 PMQuote from: Aloha007 on March 01, 2015, 05:43:49 PMI absolutely love the LM bits and have found in my 2 years of use no noticeable wear and no chipping, rounding, or wear. To extend the reach of the tool I use the bit extender which has a side benefit other than extended reach and it's being able to use standard 1/4 bits.It's true the bit extender means toting another piece but in my I wouldn't leave it out. I have narrowed down what bits I carry. I also have been thinking of buying the bit kit but because i live in europe half of the bits are unuseble.It would be great IF LM made a EU bit kit. I'd recommend the bit extender then and add your favorite and most used 1/4 bits. You can always mod a "bit extender" for your bit holder.