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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2008, 12:56:22 am » |
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LEATHERMAN name only around pivot, the other word is ground out as if the mold was altered
That's interesting. I've seen the Juice models with USA ground out, but never a PST. Keep hold of that one appletreeman ( or trade it with me  ). Yes, I'd like to see a picture of that plier pivot ATM! 
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2008, 12:58:24 am » |
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Couple of snaps.  
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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2008, 01:03:35 am » |
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For those that don't know, the "USA" was ground out on some tools at about the time of "that" court case. Best theory I've heard is that a large quantity of castings saying "USA" were still in stock in Oregon when the ruling / decision to drop the USA was made. Looks like they just ground it out to save getting any more fines.
Since then, the USA has been replaced by the word "TOOL", and many of the newer models simply say "LEATHERMAN" now.
Thanks fo rthe pics ATM.
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2008, 01:09:34 am » |
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• Rivets or knurled screws? Knurled • Lanyard attachment? Yes • (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot? Old • LEATHERMAN cast into plier pivot, along with USA or TOOL? LEATHERMAN USA • A hard wire cutter notch? No • Handles stamped with what? (see pictures in next post for examples) Leatherman Tool Portland Or us reg tm 1325473 • Inch ruler only, or inch/metric? Both • Date codes? What are they? only one handle stamped 1292 • Drop point knife blade or clip point? Saber • Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN, JAPAN, or USA? Leatherman USA
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2008, 01:09:52 am » |
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Ah, I see. By eye it was difficult to see if it was the mold that had been altered, or the actual finished pliers ground down. But from Dave's info and the closer photo it's the latter. If anyone is still interested in it, i'd trade for a PST II 
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2008, 01:37:01 am » |
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I can confirm that my 0294/0394 PST has the smaller pivot, no hardwire notch, and the knife blade is of the saber-type.
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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2008, 01:41:20 am » |
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I can confirm that my 0294/0394 PST has the smaller pivot, no hardwire notch, and the knife blade is of the saber-type.
Great thanks, that helps!  Keep 'em coming guys, who else has a PST?
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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2008, 01:43:23 am » |
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 Can't believe you can tell that they ground it out  wonder why thy didn't try to cover it up a little  Maybe they where flamed about having to take the made in USA part out  Most things that claim they are USA made really isn't anyway  So why did California do that 
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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2008, 01:26:58 pm » |
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Bob - it is the middle of the three blades (sabre) on the PST I mentioned.
Ahh good, so we've narrowed it down to sometime after 1993 that they switched to the new knife blade. (Darn, I should have been asking about this from the start so we could see what Spoony's 1996's were)  My OP has been updated, the only one of four has the Saber blade.
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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2008, 04:51:37 pm » |
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AppleTree, is that the PST I traded you?
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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2008, 05:02:40 pm » |
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A possibly useful compilation of the info contributed in this thread thus far, in Excel spreadsheet, so that it's a bit easier to compare the tools. I like looking at puzzles during my lunch hour, so sue me.  *edit* shoved the spreadsheet into a Word document due to forum limitations
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2008, 05:31:08 pm » |
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AppleTree, is that the PST I traded you?
I'm not sure, i've had 4 pass through my hands over the months, this is the only one I have now.
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2008, 05:32:59 pm » |
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Does your PST have:
• Rivets or knurled screws? • Lanyard attachment? • (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot? • LEATHERMAN cast into plier pivot, along with USA or TOOL? • A hard wire cutter notch? • Handles stamped with what? (see pictures in next post for examples) • Inch ruler only, or inch/metric? • Date codes? What are they? • Drop point knife blade or clip point? (saber?) • Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN, JAPAN, or USA?
-Rivets -Lanyard attachment -Old plier pivot -Plier pivot (both sides): "LEATHERMAN" (no USA) -No hard wire notch -Handle stamp (one side only): "LEATHERMAN TOOL REG'D TM 1325473" -Inch ruled only -Drop point blade -Blade tang: "LEATHERMAN JAPAN" .
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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2008, 12:27:44 am » |
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Does your PST have:
• Rivets or knurled screws? • Lanyard attachment? • (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot? • LEATHERMAN cast into plier pivot, along with USA or TOOL? • A hard wire cutter notch? • Handles stamped with what? (see pictures in next post for examples) • Inch ruler only, or inch/metric? • Date codes? What are they? • Drop point knife blade or clip point? (saber?) • Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN, JAPAN, or USA?
SMITTY44 INFO -Knurled screws -No Lanyard attachment -Old plier pivot -Plier pivot (both sides): "LEATHERMAN" (no USA) -No hard wire notch -Handle stamp (one side only): "LEATHERMAN TOOL (small print),US PAT 4238862, Portland OR. On the top handle CABELA'S,in large writing -Inch ruled only -Drop point blade, with LEATHERMAN on side of blade,not stamped U.S.A. -Blade tang:Blank -Milled Awl blade -Off center screwdrivers pivet in -Can opener has left hand cut. -Ordered from Cabela's late in 1983 . Changed info from Ringzero's,no rivets,or Japan Blade,see above in blue.
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2008, 02:29:11 am » |
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-Rivets
-Lanyard attachment
-Old plier pivot
-Plier pivot (both sides): "LEATHERMAN" (no USA)
-No hard wire notch
-Handle stamp (one side only): "LEATHERMAN TOOL REG'D TM 1325473"
-Inch ruled only
-Drop point blade
-Blade tang: "LEATHERMAN JAPAN"
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Okay now thats a combination that I haven't seen before RZ. A "Japan" knife blade combined with handles that say "LEATHERMAN TOOL" and have an inch-only ruler. Any way you can post a picture of the handles, similar to those in Reply #3 ??
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