mp600 question

[buck]

How do I get one with

• blunts
• black oxide
• scissors
• awl

How?  Is there a particular variant ineed to look for or is this a mod job only?  Or can you custom order/configure such?

[captain spaulding]

Just off the top of my head I do not think that combination exist for Gerber. I cannot even think of a single Gerber with a awl. I am going to say its a custom job. Good thing is the MP600 is easy to work on.

[buck]

Is there one with everything but the awl?

[AimlessWanderer]

Sounds like a mod job to me. The awl does exist, but not on many models. The mod could be made with a BO bluntnose MP600 and BO diesel. I prefer the length of the Diesel scissors, and the lobster claw can opener could be used as an awl.

[Gareth]

Yeah, that awl is a tough ask.  As Al said; it does exist, mostly on the Fisherman models IIRC, but I'm not sure I've ever seen one in BO.

If you look around you might find a BO MP600 Pro Scout with blunt pliers.  Also have a look for the Bladeless MP600, I think that might suit you.

[Gareth]

Dang, I just looked at the Bladeless and it's not got blunt pliers. My memory playing me false.

[zoidberg]

It isn't difficult to lego one together.




My lastest version of FrankenGerber.




Pic from yesterday.

[buck]

That's impressive zoidberg!  So what is involved in the mod?  So you can't just buy parts, you have to cannibalize them from other tools?  What's needed to take them apart?

Has anyone snubbed the nose on a BO Diesel?

MP600 Pro Scout with blunt pliers doesn't appear immediately available let alone one in black.

[zoidberg]

So what is involved in the mod?

You have to find a combination of tools and washers that fit the handle and clear the pliers.


So you can't just buy parts, you have to cannibalize them from other tools?

Correct.


What's needed to take them apart?

I did the first one with pliers.
Now I use an empty handle as a spanner.
And a lighter to heat the loctite.


Has anyone snubbed the nose on a BO Diesel?

I don't know about the Diesel but with the MP600 the stock needle nose has a smaller nut gripping area.
What you really want IMO is the stock blunt nose.

[buck]

Thanks, Z.  Same story for washers as parts?

[zoidberg]

Thanks, Z.  Same story for washers as parts?

All good mate. 

Yes the washers also come from the donor tools.

Get three MTs.
From these you can make two MTs, one you want and one for backup.
The third gives you extra washers, some spare replacement tools and a handle to use for a spanner.

[buck]

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201288827445?_mwBanner=1

What about an mp400?  Similar path?

[Demel]

Has anyone snubbed the nose on a BO Diesel?

I don't know about the Diesel but with the MP600 the stock needle nose has a smaller nut gripping area.
What you really want IMO is the stock blunt nose.

It's the same with the diesel. The BN has a thicker width than the needle nose. I wonder if Gerber made blunt nose diesel would that kill sales of the 600?

[buck]

Thanks, Z.  Same story for washers as parts?

All good mate. 

Yes the washers also come from the donor tools.

Get three MTs.
From these you can make two MTs, one you want and one for backup.
The third gives you extra washers, some spare replacement tools and a handle to use for a spanner.

• BO blunt mp600 base or army
• BO Diesel
• BO ?  Bladeless?

[zoidberg]

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201288827445?_mwBanner=1

What about an mp400?  Similar path?

Newer MP400 models use the same tools as the newer MP600 models but not the plier heads.
The one you linked to is an older model known here as mr pinchy, non locking with a different fastener.
I've not had one so don't know about that generation.

[buck]

Thanks, Z.  Same story for washers as parts?

All good mate. 

Yes the washers also come from the donor tools.

Get three MTs.
From these you can make two MTs, one you want and one for backup.
The third gives you extra washers, some spare replacement tools and a handle to use for a spanner.

• BO blunt mp600 base or army
• BO Diesel
• BO ?  Bladeless?

I don't see how it's possible to wind up with 2 tools with scissors (out of 3).

[zoidberg]

Thanks, Z.  Same story for washers as parts?

All good mate. 

Yes the washers also come from the donor tools.

Get three MTs.
From these you can make two MTs, one you want and one for backup.
The third gives you extra washers, some spare replacement tools and a handle to use for a spanner.

• BO blunt mp600 base or army
• BO Diesel
• BO ?  Bladeless?

I don't see how it's possible to wind up with 2 tools with scissors (out of 3).

Sorry, could you reword that? Also I'm not sure what can be swapped between a Diesel and a MP600.

[buck]

I'm just trying to figure out how you get 2 tools out of 3 (your words).  Which 3 do you start with?

Forget the diesel, just a guess on my part.

I would want the 2 tools I wind up with to both have scissors and I don't see how that's possible.

But maybe you know otherwise.

[zoidberg]

I'm just trying to figure out how you get 2 tools out of 3 (your words).  Which 3 do you start with?

Forget the diesel, just a guess on my part.

I would want the 2 tools I wind up with to both have scissors and I don't see how that's possible.

But maybe you know otherwise.

Okay, I'm with you now. You choose the MTs that contain the tools you want.

The tools are different thicknesses. If you can make the MT you want from two MTs then great. You take the tools you want and put together a MT. The left over pieces however might not go together for the second MT.

I didn't mean to confuse you with the idea of using three MTs. I just found that the more parts I had the easier it was to find a combinations that work well. By using the third MT as fodder for washers and a fastener spanner it also gives you some spare tools and more options for putting together a decent second MT.

[buck]

I like 50ft-trad's idea of using Diesel scissors and can opener->awl.
But could it also serve as spanner?

[buck]

And thanks to all for the ideas and suggestions.

[buck]

Part way there.  A used army mp600 with scissors.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201346614026

I wonder if I can just buy a blunt head from Gerber, maybe through warranty.  SOG does that.

Anybody know?

[zoidberg]

I like 50ft-trad's idea of using Diesel scissors and can opener->awl.
But could it also serve as spanner?

Not as a spanner, it is a different fastener.

[zoidberg]

Part way there.  A used army mp600 with scissors.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201346614026

I wonder if I can just buy a blunt head from Gerber, maybe through warranty.  SOG does that.

Anybody know?

Good find. It is a MP400 though, still gives you scissors and a handle spanner. 

Someone here I believe asked Gerber and they sent him out a replacement plier head but in the wrong finish. I will see if I can find the post.

[zoidberg]

Found it, read from here down for the outcome.

[buck]

Part way there.  A used army mp600 with scissors.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201346614026

I wonder if I can just buy a blunt head from Gerber, maybe through warranty.  SOG does that.

Anybody know?

Good find. It is a MP400 though, still gives you scissors and a handle spanner. 

Someone here I believe asked Gerber and they sent him out a replacement plier head but in the wrong finish. I will see if I can find the post.

Thanks for spotting that.  I was hoping for just a head swap but that's not going to happen now.  You can't put a mp600 head on a mp400... or can you?

[zoidberg]

Part way there.  A used army mp600 with scissors.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201346614026

I wonder if I can just buy a blunt head from Gerber, maybe through warranty.  SOG does that.

Anybody know?

Good find. It is a MP400 though, still gives you scissors and a handle spanner. 

Someone here I believe asked Gerber and they sent him out a replacement plier head but in the wrong finish. I will see if I can find the post.

Thanks for spotting that.  I was hoping for just a head swap but that's not going to happen now.  You can't put a mp600 head on a mp400... or can you?

No they don't fit sorry.

[buck]

...
What's needed to take them apart?

I did the first one with pliers.
Now I use an empty handle as a spanner.
And a lighter to heat the loctite.
...

So I will end up with a blunt nose mp600 and the previously mentioned mp400 to be cannibalized.  Please explain using the handle as a spanner.  Is it the plier side of the handle or the tool joint side?

[zoidberg]

...
What's needed to take them apart?

I did the first one with pliers.
Now I use an empty handle as a spanner.
And a lighter to heat the loctite.
...

So I will end up with a blunt nose mp600 and the previously mentioned mp400 to be cannibalized.  Please explain using the handle as a spanner.  Is it the plier side of the handle or the tool joint side?

Have a look at this thread.

FrankenGerber Kit and Gerber maintenance tool

If it still doesn't make any sense I'll attempt to explain it.

[zoidberg]

Here's another one.

Gerber Multiplier mangling

I didn't bother making actual spanners, I left the handles complete and just pull the locking tab back when using it.