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The Mega84

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Re: The Mega84
Reply #30 on: August 31, 2015, 07:23:54 PM
BTW, Al, are you still posting from your phone or is you camera broken. :whistle:

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Re: The Mega84
Reply #31 on: August 31, 2015, 08:04:55 PM
Pics? Why would you want to se a grown man cry? That's just evil




 :P :D


To be honest I have been posting from my phone, and just brought the camera upstairs to see if I got any decent pics  :whistle:


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #32 on: August 31, 2015, 08:17:46 PM
To be honest I have been posting from my phone, and just brought the camera upstairs to see if I got any decent pics  :whistle:

.... and no I didn't  :rofl:

Looks like I didn't stop for pics all that often  :-[

Here's a few of the tools I've been using, and one of the donors waiting for slaughter though ...



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Re: The Mega84
Reply #33 on: August 31, 2015, 08:23:25 PM
Chaos .......

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Re: The Mega84
Reply #34 on: August 31, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
Now that's better. :D


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #35 on: August 31, 2015, 09:02:52 PM
At this moment in time it's still at the "dead spider" stage. Just gradually working through what works and what doesn't, before planning the refinements and moving it on a step or two



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Re: The Mega84
Reply #36 on: August 31, 2015, 09:15:57 PM
A very appropriate mug. ;)


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #37 on: August 31, 2015, 10:06:31 PM
It was a gift from a friend that I've known since we were 5. He probably knows me better than anyone  :D


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #38 on: August 31, 2015, 11:23:56 PM
Yes, I think I'm pretty happy with that!

Still needs a little bit of tweaking and adjusting, but conceptually at least, it does seem to work. Awl sits low enough to be safe, Phillips tucks away nicely, but can still be accessed, and whilst access to the cap lifter and nail file is a little fiddly, it can be done.

I need to accept a little bit of compromise on a first ever build with bloody awkward layout I suppose  :D





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Re: The Mega84
Reply #39 on: August 31, 2015, 11:46:41 PM
It's not got the rights segmental spacers on the awl and nail file yet, and the liners down the centre of the Phillips need opening up a little so you can access the driver easier from the end. Other than that, it seems pretty functional which is the main thing.

I think with this being my first build, and somewhat of a mismatch of parts, I might be safer peening it up with the bushes I've salvaged, popping on some nylon scales, and giving it some carry time. That way any problems have got chance to identify themselves before I start thinking about making scales for it


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #40 on: August 31, 2015, 11:51:47 PM
It doesn't feel to unwieldy a pocket knife either. It's quite a weighty affair, but with that amount of function it's unavoidable really.

My main aims were to build an scissor laden 84mm with both phillips and corkscrew, and both serrated and plain blades, but without losing the awl. The saw was a bit of a "why not" rather than "must have", and the nail file seemed logical with already having full size plain and serrated blades.


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #41 on: August 31, 2015, 11:59:47 PM
Very clever with the Phillips   :tu:


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #42 on: September 01, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
I say use the small blade instead of the nail file :poke: It works better for some tasks. But does a 91mm one fit the 84s frame? I kind of hate the 84mm small blade.

The wood saw adds heft, I'm not sure a metal file wouldn't be preferable. I know this means more modding and perhaps getting a file too but for this size that would be my pick.

I thought you didn't like nylon scales? :popcorn: anyway...


Oh, and inline awl  :drool: That one's lovely, yeah!
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Re: The Mega84
Reply #43 on: September 01, 2015, 12:23:59 AM
I say use the small blade instead of the nail file :poke: It works better for some tasks. But does a 91mm one fit the 84s frame? I kind of hate the 84mm small blade.

The wood saw adds heft, I'm not sure a metal file wouldn't be preferable. I know this means more modding and perhaps getting a file too but for this size that would be my pick.

I thought you didn't like nylon scales? :popcorn: anyway...


Oh, and inline awl  :drool: That one's lovely, yeah!

It's MUCH harder trying to find an 84mm file than any other tool in the 84mm range, and one thing I never got hold of. It was available a couple of times, but at a price I wasn't prepared to pay, particularly not for just breaking it down for parts. I could have cheated and used a Wenger file, but I reckon I can make do with the nail file.

As to the small blade, I don't like having two plain blades on the same knife if I can help it. That's one of the reasons I liked the Traveller over the Climber. The pruner blade that's left over from the Rancher I stole the awl from, will be destined to go in a CT41 with a serrated blade from a Weekender. Two distinctly different blades again, and which takes inspiration from the Original Outdoorsman which is another favourite of mine. I'd imagine a 91mm small blade would be different to an 84, so that would take work too. Besides, I have to have two full blade layers to get the Phillips and Corkscrew in, so adding a third blade instead of a different function just seems a bit of a waste  :think:

Nylon scales? I like the ones on the Voyager, and don't mind the ones on the 84s. They are a bit more durable than the celidor, and they do have better grip when wet, but I do still prefer the feel of celidor on the whole. I much prefer the nylon to the feel of alox too  ;)



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Re: The Mega84
Reply #44 on: September 01, 2015, 12:25:41 AM
Very clever with the Phillips   :tu:

Thanks Tommy  :cheers: It took a while to figure out how to make it work, but it took a lot longer to get the right donors together  :D


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #45 on: September 01, 2015, 01:19:04 AM
Very clever with the Phillips   :tu:

Thanks Tommy  :cheers: It took a while to figure out how to make it work, but it took a lot longer to get the right donors together  :D

Ya very nice! 

Its funny I am tackling the same issue right now on a 91mm job that needs both backside phillips and corkscrew.  The problem is I have less space to fit the phillips, so I milled it flat on each side, (kind of looks like a flat leatherman phillips now) but it should fit in space I have for it now. Im using 2x saw backsprings with backtool cutouts to house the phillips.  It should work but it hasnt gone together yet.
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Re: The Mega84
Reply #46 on: September 01, 2015, 01:32:49 AM
Very clever with the Phillips   :tu:

Thanks Tommy  :cheers: It took a while to figure out how to make it work, but it took a lot longer to get the right donors together  :D

Ya very nice! 

Its funny I am tackling the same issue right now on a 91mm job that needs both backside phillips and corkscrew.  The problem is I have less space to fit the phillips, so I milled it flat on each side, (kind of looks like a flat leatherman phillips now) but it should fit in space I have for it now. Im using 2x saw backsprings with backtool cutouts to house the phillips.  It should work but it hasnt gone together yet.

Cheers Bob  :cheers: I was originally hoping to get away with not having to add that second liner, but as it happens they were needed anyway for access to the nail nicks on the cap lifter and nail file. They're still tight, but doable with my nails, and would have been impossible with one liner. The awl worked out well too with just a sliver ground off the kick :tu:

Are you using an inline Phillips for that mod, or have you milled it offset? I wouldn't imagine you could afford to lose much off the tang side of a backspring Phillips  :think:


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #47 on: September 01, 2015, 03:30:56 AM
Very nice Al! :tu:
There's no such thing as "Too pretty to carry".  There's only "Too pretty NOT to carry"...... >:D


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #48 on: September 01, 2015, 09:49:38 AM
Cheers Tom  :cheers: I hope to have the Mega84 v1 peened up and in the pocket today. Might even have a look at one of the other mods too  :)


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #49 on: September 01, 2015, 10:25:51 AM
 :popcorn:  very cool Al,look forward too seeing it finnished  :salute:


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #50 on: September 01, 2015, 11:50:39 AM
Hmmm.... the lack of a vice is hampering my abilities to get one end of the pin peened before building it up  :think:

I tried just standing the pins on end on my mini anvil, but that just bent the pins. I then tried using a G cramp on the garden fence, but that didn't work either - not secure enough. I think I'm going to have to try NOT pre-peening, having excess on both sides, and then cropping/filing/peening both sides together. That'll be interesting....

:popcorn:  very cool Al,look forward too seeing it finnished  :salute:

Thanks Paul  :cheers:


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #51 on: September 01, 2015, 12:12:33 PM
Hold it with the drill.


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #52 on: September 01, 2015, 12:25:06 PM
Hold it with the drill.

Good call!  :tu: I'll dig out my older drill I think, and give that a try  :cheers:


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #53 on: September 01, 2015, 12:37:11 PM
Nice one Zoidie!!!! :nanadance:

That actually works BETTER than a vice. Drill tucked under left arm, turning chuck with left hand, and rapidly hitting with hammer in right hand whilst slowly turning the chuck. It's like a mini GFM forge  :D Perfect!

I've had to shorten the pins a bit first so there's not much stuck out. Hopefully there's still enough to work with  :ahhh



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Re: The Mega84
Reply #54 on: September 01, 2015, 12:42:41 PM
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Re: The Mega84
Reply #55 on: September 01, 2015, 12:46:21 PM
Hang on.... this is a hammer drill.....  :think:

I wonder....


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #56 on: September 01, 2015, 12:51:44 PM
 :rofl: BRILLIANT!!!!!!

Grip pin in chuck, set to hammer, and "drill" the side of an axe head at a slight angle! Just enough pressure to get the hammer action to kick in, but not enough to bend the pin. A perfectly pre-peened pin in seconds  :D


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #57 on: September 01, 2015, 12:56:17 PM
:rofl: BRILLIANT!!!!!!

Grip pin in chuck, set to hammer, and "drill" the side of an axe head at a slight angle! Just enough pressure to get the hammer action to kick in, but not enough to bend the pin. A perfectly pre-peened pin in seconds  :D

WE DEMAND A VIDEO! :ahhh

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Re: The Mega84
Reply #58 on: September 01, 2015, 12:57:39 PM
Now I need to come up with a concave "drill bit" for finishing off the other side when I've built it up  >:D


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Re: The Mega84
Reply #59 on: September 01, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
I really can't believe how well that works. They've actually slightly "over peened" and don't quite seat in the bushings, so I'm just tickling them up with a file. It actually gives a nice domed and burnished finish.

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