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Powerlock problem. Help please!

us Offline forest77

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Powerlock problem. Help please!
on: October 25, 2015, 02:57:36 AM
Hey everyone I am new to the site but not new to knife/multitool/ gun gear. I am a technical ype by prfession and hobby. But im am at my wits end on the powerlock MT. Tool clumping is relly bad on the side of Mt he tool that holds the combo knife blade. I hace tried adding a washer between the c ca p lifter and the blade, I have tried removing the blade and adding washers in place of the cap lifter and moved the cap lifter in the place of the blade. No matter what I doits still a pain to line up the lock. I thought myber its the washers im using. The other side of the tool does clump when I pull the saw out but once I push everything back in the lock engages. I see when I lift the knife blade I have to carefully roll the cap lifter back in just right ( not allowing it to over travel) . Placing the knife blade back in its slot is tricky because the cap lifter overtravels into the handle , and I have to lift it back oout to perfectly alighn it with the knife blade Very carefully so the lock will return to its proper resting position. Whew... that wore me out. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  If I cant get this to go away I will t tr ade this tool. I dont want to get rid of it because I love it.
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #1 on: October 25, 2015, 02:59:04 AM
By the way its the powerlock 2.0
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #2 on: October 25, 2015, 02:03:04 AM
Hi, pics might be helpful to figure this out.
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Reply #3 on: October 25, 2015, 02:19:49 AM
Ok. Gimmie about 30 min to get home.
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #4 on: October 25, 2015, 03:03:18 AM
Here is apic wit the blade and cap lifter perfectly aligned. The lock underneath is perfect.
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #5 on: October 25, 2015, 03:05:22 AM
Here is a picture with the blade and cap lifter nor aligned.  The lock underneath is not in its notch.
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Reply #6 on: October 25, 2015, 03:07:48 AM
Here is a picture of the lock position when the blade and cap lifter in the previous post (not perfectly aligned) . I hope these were helpful.
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Reply #7 on: October 25, 2015, 03:07:47 PM
I hope I didn't scare you guys away with all my typos. I was typing while on the train.:-)
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #8 on: October 25, 2015, 03:14:11 PM
I'm a little confused  :think:

If the handle is full of tools, or has large enough diameter washers, and the correct size (original) pivot, there should be no misalignment issues, as everything holds itself square. As to the tool clumping, this is pretty standard, and most tool loadouts will need this to get access to certain tools.

The only other thing I can think of, is that the pivot pin isn't engaded in the opposing side of the handle. Try depressing the lock, and jiggling everything so the tip of the pivot pin seats in the hole at the other side. If it won't go, you might have got too many washers (or the washers may be too thick)


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Reply #9 on: October 25, 2015, 03:31:39 PM
The problem is these tools have to be aligned properly for the lock to engage. I'm not seeing any issue with the tool itself.

With the Powerlock, you just have to make sure these things line up  ;)
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #10 on: October 25, 2015, 04:04:14 PM
This is the piano style one right?  Where each tool has its own lock?  Is the blade and opener sharing one of the locking bars and that causing the troubles?

Ver 1 had the single lock bar, ver 2 had the separate, and 3 went back to single lock bar.  I wonder if it was for reasons like this.
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Reply #11 on: October 25, 2015, 05:58:19 PM
It has the single lock bar. Bought n 1 yr. Ago. 2.0 version.
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Reply #12 on: October 25, 2015, 07:28:43 PM
Ok ive got a version like that but i cant for the life of me figure out why yours is behaving like that.  I wonder if its possible to rearrage the tools to helo that.
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #13 on: October 25, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
Mine is the same way.  I have the worst trouble trying to get the scissors to lock/unlock properly and also have issues with terrible tool clumping at the main blade and the file.  I think it's is just poor design and execution.  I sold my PowerAssist because of similar issues.  Decided to give SOG another shot with a PowerLock.  I think SOG needs to raise their game.  Their tools have so much going for them and still seem to fall short of other makers due to what seems like a simple lack of effort/attention to detail. 


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Reply #14 on: October 25, 2015, 08:34:51 PM


Decided to give SOG another shot with a PowerLock.  I think SOG needs to raise their game.  Their tools have so much going for them and still seem to fall short of other makers due to what seems like a simple lack of effort/attention to detail.

What I would like from sog is to put their tools on the powerlock on the outside. I really want to like the powerlock but it is such a hassle to get to the inside tools and the handle covers are so flimsy....I have a couple sog tools, the Switchplier and Powerduo, and love them both. It's their flagship tool that I really want but can't seem to bond with. :shrug: they could be a great tool company, but they need refinement. Ok I'm done ranting
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #15 on: October 25, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
I agree. I will trade this tool for something else if I can't figure it out. Im gonna rearange the bits and see if it helps.
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Reply #16 on: October 25, 2015, 11:34:54 PM
Ok. Heres what I tried. I swapped locations of the combo blade and the V-cutter, and it seems to be better.less clumping and easer to alaign the tools if it does clump. Not perfect, but better.

Thanks to everyone for there advice and rants. I will stop wineing now.
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #17 on: October 26, 2015, 12:39:37 AM
If you can't ask for tool help here where else can you go? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
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Reply #18 on: October 26, 2015, 12:42:02 AM
I'm glad you found a solution to this. I hope you'll continue to get along with your Powerlock. It's a great tool :tu:
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #19 on: October 26, 2015, 01:05:33 AM
Mine is the same way.  I have the worst trouble trying to get the scissors to lock/unlock properly ...

Mine, too.

Further analysis shows that when the knife blade is retracted there is a tendency for it to be folded too deeply into the handle.  In that position, the notch in the blade is misaligned and prevents the lock bar from engaging the notches in any of the other tools in the same handle.

One fix, which I have not applied yet, is to glue a small bit inside the handle, directly beneath the knife blade.  That bit should act as a "stop" and prevent the knife from folding too far into the handle.
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Reply #20 on: October 26, 2015, 01:07:33 AM
Call it a little kantankerous but I just fidget with mine to get things lined up before closing or selecting tools. I'm used to this and don't consider it in any way a defect. I love my Powerlock.
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Reply #21 on: October 26, 2015, 01:24:20 AM
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One fix, which I have not applied yet, is to glue a small bit inside the handle, directly beneath the knife blade.  That bit should act as a "stop" and prevent the knife from folding too far into the handle.

A different fix would be to use a Dremel type rotary tool and widen the proper notch on the knife (and other tools) which have a tendency to close too deeply into the handle.  A wider notch will permit the lock to engage properly.
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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #22 on: October 26, 2015, 01:56:26 AM
Good tips but in my eyes this is something that could (and should) easily be corrected in production.  I've never thought myself to be a very picky person but maybe I am....  Lots of praise out there for the Powerlock but I don't see this issue complained about too often. 


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Re: Powerlock problem. Help please!
Reply #23 on: October 27, 2015, 05:50:46 AM
I think this older thread mentions that same problem (one I encountered myself)

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,36594.html

I would like to point out that the Powerlock was my first full-size name-brand MT, and I got rid of it fast because other than the very nice compound leverage pliers, I didn't like a single other thing about it.


 

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