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dks · **Reply #1980 on:** February 10, 2015, 09:42:49 PM

An interesting thread from BF, regarding Sheffield knives

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1260767-Round-Yorkshire-With-A-Knife-A-Visit-To-The-Famous-Sheffield-Shop

SAK Guy · **Reply #1981 on:** February 11, 2015, 02:50:41 AM

Quote from: dks on February 10, 2015, 09:42:49 PM

An interesting thread from BF, regarding Sheffield knives

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1260767-Round-Yorkshire-With-A-Knife-A-Visit-To-The-Famous-Sheffield-Shop

+1 Jack's knife travelogs are always excellent!!

SAK Guy · **Reply #1982 on:** February 12, 2015, 03:34:10 PM

Two Schrade+ in white Delrin.

kirk13 · **Reply #1983 on:** February 12, 2015, 04:17:24 PM

I'm liking that Stockman Robert

SAK Guy · **Reply #1984 on:** February 12, 2015, 04:59:05 PM

Quote from: kirk13 on February 12, 2015, 04:17:24 PM

I'm liking that Stockman Robert

Thanks buddy!!!

kirk13 · **Reply #1985 on:** February 13, 2015, 02:07:37 AM

Another RR Half Hawk

SAK Guy · **Reply #1986 on:** February 13, 2015, 02:34:51 AM

What a classic pattern!!!! Is that smooth bone?

Looks great bud!!!!!

SAK Guy · **Reply #1987 on:** February 13, 2015, 04:53:00 AM

kirk13 · **Reply #1988 on:** February 13, 2015, 03:41:30 PM

Robert,for a tenner I dread to think what kind of bone it is,but yes it's supposed to be smooth tobacco bone. It's a great pattern for a work knife! Finish on the scales isn't quite as good as on its Coal Miner cousin,but,as I said,for a tenner it's bang on!

Liking the Douk-Douk by the way

dks · **Reply #1989 on:** February 13, 2015, 03:49:54 PM

Its most likely cattle shin bone. Better makers tend to buy only the bones from certain breeds/regions. You need a strong cow that walks a lot do it has good bone density. I seem to recall that south American cow bones were considered good.

kirk13 · **Reply #1990 on:** February 13, 2015, 03:55:18 PM

Quote from: dks on February 13, 2015, 03:49:54 PM

Its most likely cattle shin bone. Better makers tend to buy only the bones from certain breeds/regions. You need a strong cow that walks a lot do it has good bone density. I seem to recall that south American cow bones were considered good.

Interesting! It's not something you'd generally stop and think about.

SAK Guy · **Reply #1991 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:39:15 AM

Imperial Powder Horn Stockman

dks · **Reply #1992 on:** March 15, 2015, 06:57:38 AM

It is amazing how good yellow looks on traditional knives - buck, case, GEC..

SAK Guy · **Reply #1993 on:** March 15, 2015, 07:34:15 AM

Quote from: dks on March 15, 2015, 06:57:38 AM

It is amazing how good yellow looks on traditional knives - buck, case, GEC..

+1

I completely agree.....

dks · **Reply #1994 on:** March 15, 2015, 01:38:21 PM

A quick photograph for reference.

Two "23" knives, of similar price, from the two main GEC brands.

SAK Guy · **Reply #1995 on:** March 15, 2015, 02:38:26 PM

Quote from: dks on March 15, 2015, 01:38:21 PM

A quick photograph for reference.

Two "23" knives, of similar price, from the two main GEC brands.

Dks, how do you like that Bull Lock?

dks · **Reply #1996 on:** March 15, 2015, 03:12:48 PM

I did buy it to use it, but never really did - I thought, when buying it, that the Grizzly jigging looked really sexy and I was going to use it to replace my SRM763 as my standard locking folder.

It just feels a bit thin for a knife with such a large, solid blade and the jigging is a bit "sharp" making it a bit uncomfortable for me to use regularly. Also, for a locking knife, the blade is harder to open than needed (noticeably harder than a locking or regular SAK and you can not pinch it open - you could damage a nail if you try to open it quickly)

It is a good looking knife with a really solid lock and looks very unusual to what everybody else carries.
I also do not want to get it rusty through use as it does, for some reason, rust easier than the other GECs I have.

I have no major reason not to use it, but the SS 763 ends in my pocket 90% of the time I want a locking knife.

SAK Guy · **Reply #1997 on:** March 15, 2015, 03:52:06 PM

Quote from: dks on March 15, 2015, 03:12:48 PM

I did buy it to use it, but never really did - I thought, when buying it, that the Grizzly jigging looked really sexy and I was going to use it to replace my SRM763 as my standard locking folder.

It just feels a bit thin for a knife with such a large, solid blade and the jigging is a bit "sharp" making it a bit uncomfortable for me to use regularly. Also, for a locking knife, the blade is harder to open than needed (noticeably harder than a locking or regular SAK and you can not pinch it open - you could damage a nail if you try to open it quickly)

It is a good looking knife with a really solid lock and looks very unusual to what everybody else carries.
I also do not want to get it rusty through use as it does, for some reason, rust easier than the other GECs I have.

I have no major reason not to use it, but the SS 763 ends in my pocket 90% of the time I want a locking knife.

Over at another forum I belong to that discusses traditional knives (esp GEC), it's the general consensus that on the GEC 23's and 73's, the ones with the lanyard hole are easier to open than the ones without. This is based on anecdotal evidence of people that own one or both that responded to the thread. The ones without a lanyard hole are usually all nail breakers.

My 23L has a lanyard hole and even with my RA, I can open it pretty easy....it's not weak by any definition but a very solid 6-7 on a 1-10 scale.

Mine again (for reference).

dks · **Reply #1998 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:27:38 PM

I am not aware of the forum you mention but at Bladeforums

there is a lot of discussions on GECs . It took them years to accept RR but its nice to see that the cheaper, good knives, get some love too.

The 23's have the reputation for being nailbreakers, especially the older ones like the GEC trapper I show above.
I can open it, but its not a pleasant feeling (biggest nailbreaker I have is probably a Camillus electrician..). I know some GEC fans (I am one too- fan not fanboy) feel obliged to say that they need/like a hard backspring and that it is a safety feature and that their grandpas knife was hard etc but SAKs work fine for all and are easy to open. I think that the hard springs was a mistake by GEC, - possibly because it came with the overall heavy duty construction of their knives (they all have a heavy duty feel, and gag to be used, as opposed to e.g. Queen which has more regular feeling knives) and possibly because of the fact that they use knife openers/coins/spoons to open their knives.(here is how I made one : http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27862.0.html

However, on a locking knife the only good/useful thing about a hard backspring is that it stops it from opening accidentally or being opened by children (under 9{ish} - over that and they should have their own knives anyway). The spring on the bulllock is definitely softer than on the regular 23 line, but still too hard/uncivilised for a knife that locks.

Incidentally I started a thread explaining from a physics point of view. how to open a knife a few years ago:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41033.0.html

SAK Guy · **Reply #1999 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:53:19 PM

Yes it was Bladeforums in a thread last year...I see I was preaching to the choir!

Yes, the hard springs on GEC's keep me from buying more...I have 3 given to me as gifts.. 2 were were kinda broke in so I can use them and one is an EO 25.

I can't find the thread now but as I remember it was a thread on springs and toward the end someone made the observation about the lanyard hole and others chimed in on the subject confirming it with their experiences.

SAK Guy · **Reply #2000 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:59:36 PM

BTW, those are good links!!

dks · **Reply #2001 on:** March 15, 2015, 05:10:58 PM

I remember the thread, though I am not a BLF member (I do spent a looot of time there, so maybe I will join one day)

What I did find to work on some hard RRs was to leave them with the spring under tension for a few days. My theory is that this causes some micro cracks/damage to the spring softening it. However, this may affect the life of the spring, so I would not do it on an expensive knife I plan to resell and make looooots of money in the future (by the way the dollar to euro ratio is killing me.. I feel stupid paying 150 Euro on what used to be 100 Euro. It is not a money thing; I just feel robbed)