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Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³

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Which one do you think is better tool

Juice S2
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Customized P³
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us Offline Kampfer

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Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
on: November 09, 2015, 08:01:10 PM
Weight & size:

S2: 4.6oz ; 3.5 x 1.125 x 0.5 inch ; 12 tools ; MSRP $68.85
P³ : 5.2oz ; 4.0 x 1.025 x 0.5 inch ; 12 tools ; MSRP $72.50


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« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 10:40:54 PM by Kampfer »
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #1 on: November 09, 2015, 08:04:21 PM
Kinfe:
S2: 420HC ; 2.0 inch ; slip joint ; outside accessible
P³ : 420 ; 2.5 inch ; slip joint
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« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 10:45:18 PM by Kampfer »
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #2 on: November 09, 2015, 08:05:17 PM
Pliers:
S2: 0.1875 inch thick
P³: 0.3125 inch thick


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« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 08:17:11 PM by Kampfer »
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #3 on: November 09, 2015, 08:05:52 PM
The only thing I woulda changed is to leave the can opener in tact but otherwise it blows the Juice away! :cheers:
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 08:06:52 PM
Scissors:
S2: 1.00 inch
P³: 0.81 inch
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« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 10:43:42 PM by Kampfer »
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 08:07:31 PM
Drivers:

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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 08:08:45 PM
Openers:
S2: Outside accessible
P³: Can opener removed
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« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 08:12:18 PM by Kampfer »
EDC: Black Talon, Black Cat, Spirit, LD02


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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #7 on: November 09, 2015, 08:09:57 PM
Bonus:
P³: One hand opening pliers with Compound Leverage, Awl & ruler
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« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 08:12:55 PM by Kampfer »
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #8 on: November 09, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
The only thing I woulda changed is to leave the can opener in tact but otherwise it blows the Juice away! :cheers:
I had bad experience with SOG's Can't opener, I am not sad to see it go away. :waving:
« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 11:00:08 PM by Kampfer »
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #9 on: November 09, 2015, 10:03:33 PM
handle splay:
S2: 37*
P³: 27*


S2: 45*
P³: 45*
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #10 on: November 09, 2015, 10:11:24 PM
Excellent comparison. Thank you.  :tu:
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #11 on: November 09, 2015, 10:49:36 PM
 :assimilate:

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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #13 on: November 09, 2015, 11:31:42 PM
Its a tough decision between the two.  :think:
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #14 on: November 10, 2015, 12:16:46 AM
Its a tough decision between the two.  :think:

The Navitool is that good?   :ahhh
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #15 on: November 10, 2015, 12:19:39 AM
Just to clear up any static, the Navitool is a great tool. I sure am enjoying mine, which Obi1 was kind enough to gift to me.

It packs everything (including) the kitchen sink, into one belt-clippable utility and has a storage compartment big enough to pack full of survival accessories :tu:
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #16 on: November 10, 2015, 12:24:44 AM
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #17 on: November 10, 2015, 07:55:19 AM
For your reference, The Late Boy Scout's comparison between Juice & standard PPP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tMdvTeXlDg
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #18 on: November 10, 2015, 11:51:39 AM
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Which one do you think is better tool

Better for doing what exactly?  :think:


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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #19 on: November 10, 2015, 12:01:27 PM
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Which one do you think is better tool

Better for doing what exactly?  :think:

:imws:

If you mean "overall", I need to reserve judgement until I determine how good my CS4 fares after a period of time following the ongoing mods/tweaks I'm doing. I'm personally not happy with either tool out of the box, and both need work to get the best from them


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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #20 on: November 10, 2015, 04:56:02 PM
In stock form, id go with the Juice S2 over the PPP.  The drivers are far superior to the PPPs standard drivers,  it comes with scissors, and the can opener works. PPP has better pliers, an awl and a file, but the awl isnt a huge need for me, and the file isnt as good as it could be.
But Kampfers PPP is better than stock. It has scissors (that are just ok, but then so are the Juice's), and it has an uncompromised flathead (big hole in bottle opener flathead). In this matchup, I'd go with the PPP, as its pliers are so much better, and the inside tools are about as good as the Juices
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #21 on: November 10, 2015, 07:28:25 PM
Yea, don't let Juice's large scissors fool you, they are really just so so.  SOG scissors are ok but not great neither.

SOG drivers aren't as tough as Leatherman's 420HC drivers, but good enough and have longer reach.

Retention Of inside tools of PPP is weak, but easy fix with a pair of pliers.

SOG inside tools clump like crazy, after careful rearrangement that can be minimumize.

"Gear of madness" can be overcome by using the tool with handles open at 90* pliers head pointing outward.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2015, 07:32:21 PM by Kampfer »
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #22 on: November 12, 2015, 11:06:42 PM

They are both equally good but the vote goes to S2 because of the outside opening blade and scissors which is very convenient.



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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #23 on: November 13, 2015, 01:12:20 AM
TBH,I think it's a bit unfair to compare a custom load out to stock one. A more fair comparison would have been a stock PPP to the Juice.

I've been carrying my Zed custom PPP this week,and it's worked out better than when I'd slipped my Meyro slimjim S2 into my EDC.

If your allowing pouch carry,the SOG wins,but for pocket carry I'd opt for the Juice.

But,as a last thought,I'd rather have a Vic SuperTinker and a LM Mini ;)
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #24 on: November 13, 2015, 08:34:38 AM
TBH,I think it's a bit unfair to compare a custom load out to stock one. A more fair comparison would have been a stock PPP to the Juice.

I've been carrying my Zed custom PPP this week,and it's worked out better than when I'd slipped my Meyro slimjim S2 into my EDC.

If your allowing pouch carry,the SOG wins,but for pocket carry I'd opt for the Juice.

But,as a last thought,I'd rather have a Vic SuperTinker and a LM Mini ;)

I think it is totally fair because both are at my service, up to me which one to carry.  :P
Yes, PPP isn't good for pocket carry.
Super tinker + mini is nice setup, but I rather have one MT with full set of tools and a folder.

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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #25 on: November 13, 2015, 08:36:58 AM

They are both equally good but the vote goes to S2 because of the outside opening blade and scissors which is very convenient.
It is amazing how fast you can turn PPP "inside out", then everything became outside accessible.   
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #26 on: November 13, 2015, 06:07:16 PM

They are both equally good but the vote goes to S2 because of the outside opening blade and scissors which is very convenient.
It is amazing how fast you can turn PPP "inside out", then everything became outside accessible.

Ok, I want to change my vote now. The triple P is bigger and looks better. Why compare it to a S2? Size wise it's not a match no?


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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #27 on: November 13, 2015, 06:12:08 PM
They are only half oz different in weight, half inch in length.
Belong in same class I believe.
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #28 on: November 17, 2015, 09:00:18 AM
I choose the P3. But I'd rather have it set up like this as I dont need or want scissors on the P3.      :)
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Re: Photo comparison: Juice S2 vs Customized P³
Reply #29 on: November 17, 2015, 12:28:28 PM
I choose the P3. But I'd rather have it set up like this as I dont need or want scissors on the P3.      :)
I prefer the V-cutter over the scissors.
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