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Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?

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Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
on: February 15, 2016, 01:35:11 AM
Hi all:

Just out of curiosity, I picked up a couple of MPT's on eBay.  The first was NIB that I got as an addition to a collection--not for use, just as an interesting side note in multi tool history.  I played with the tool a bit and it seemed very solid.  So...I bought another one, lightly used, to see if I liked it as a user.  Having carried the MPT for a while, I am somewhat baffled that this tool is so reviled.  It is, as many have noted, a large knock-off of the Leatherman PST, but the rolled edges on the handles are pretty nice and the larger size is handy for those of us with plus-sized hands.  For the $22 that I paid for my user (including shipping), I'd say this is a great tool.  The blade appears to be of very similar steel as my MP600 and MP 400 (older ones).  The picture is from the eBay listing--before I got it and cleaned it up.  Compared to my Leatherman PST, I'd say the overall manufacturing is at a somewhat lower level but the large plier head in a fairly light and compact package is pretty nice. 

The only negative with the tool is that the blades don't lock and the slipjoint spring created integral to the handles is a bit weak.  But, the form of the butterfly design is such that the tools cannot collapse on your fingers, so its not really a big deal from a safety standpoint.

The screwdrivers are very short, as I have also seen noted, but they are functional and not much shorter than on my older MP600.

I really like the old design for the awl/utility blade on these old Gerbers--its a nice size for cutting string, opening boxes, etc.  I got a nice edge on it quite easily. 

I have read that production quality was really low, and perhaps I just happen to have purchased two that are better than average...but I'd have to give this tool a pretty high rating for functionality in a basic tool.  Granted, the basic model MP600 is better overall tool--better quality, tighter tolerances, etc. but for a more basic tool that has a large pair of pliers with long handles for good leverage, the MPT is not bad. 

Not trying to convince anyone--just intrigued by the fact that this tool is so unloved.

Cheers,



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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #1 on: March 28, 2016, 03:55:37 AM
Mostly because its old school MT.
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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #2 on: March 28, 2016, 04:05:27 AM
I want one, so reputation isn't everything!
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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #3 on: March 28, 2016, 04:23:24 AM
Count me in for the MPT.

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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #4 on: March 28, 2016, 04:34:17 AM
Some of my MPT's are here.
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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #5 on: March 28, 2016, 06:07:10 AM
Nothing wrong with the MPT in my book. It's old-school cool. Every now and then I carry and use mine. :tu:
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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #6 on: March 28, 2016, 06:21:27 AM
Nothing wrong with the MPT in my book. It's old-school cool. Every now and then I carry and use mine. :tu:


Agreed! I dont use mine much. But I do like to get them out and be nostalgic for a bit.      :D
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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #7 on: March 30, 2016, 09:42:09 PM
I've got a couple of them and although I can't remember the last time I got them out  :facepalm: I do remember wondering why they were so disliked.
As I recall they do seem to be long and somewhat crude.....but perfectly functional......and did I mention the AWL!!  :o

The pattern effect pouches feel a little cheap and nasty especially if compared to sumptuous offerings from the likes of SOG  :drool: but the tool is again perfectly adequate to be used.

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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 10:25:03 AM
I've got a couple of them and although I can't remember the last time I got them out  :facepalm: I do remember wondering why they were so disliked.
As I recall they do seem to be long and somewhat crude.....but perfectly functional......and did I mention the AWL!!  :o

The pattern effect pouches feel a little cheap and nasty especially if compared to sumptuous offerings from the likes of SOG  :drool: but the tool is again perfectly adequate to be used.

I agree the MPT is a totally functional tool, without any superfluous 'bit's'. The awl is an excellent tool, very good as a box cutter.

I must admit that I find the Leatherman PST/PSTII, which is a near comparison a better manufactured MT.

Whilst I do like the MPT, mostly as a historical MT it's overall quality IMHO is inferior to the later Multi-lock / MP600
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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #9 on: April 01, 2016, 04:36:30 AM
I have been really digging this historical MTs lately :o I really love the old school feel of the PST and original Supertool so these have a very good appeal to me :drool: :D


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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #10 on: April 01, 2016, 09:53:25 AM
I had one...

My issue was the amount of flex in the handles,just couldn't live with that
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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #11 on: April 03, 2016, 01:21:36 PM
Do not get a Gerber Radius then.  :o  :D
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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #12 on: April 17, 2016, 10:25:51 PM
My biggest complaint with the MPT is that I need to open the blade and awl in order to have any hope of reaching the large flat driver.  Which seems pretty unsafe. 

Also, the file on mine is EXCELLENT (why did Gerber stop having three sided files?) but has no washer and just grinds against the curved handle.  It has cut deep grooves into the little rolled edge thing.

It is better than most PST knockoffs, not as good as a PST though.  Not even close.  Though like I said, the file is amazing, and the awl is unique.


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Re: Why does the MPT have such a bad reputation?
Reply #13 on: May 19, 2016, 01:43:30 PM
I really like the MPT, though i agree on the fact that it is inferior to the PST. The awl implement is great indeed. For 20$ it is one of the most robust you can get, i think. The "vintage" design is just fascinating!

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