Wrench to partner MT

maximus0723 · **on:** April 27, 2016, 03:48:14 AM

Hi,

I am trying to create an EDC kit with my LM Wave, bit kit and LM Piranha II.
I am in search for nice multi purpose wrench.

Looking at internet for some suggestions, Here is what I found...
http://www.amazon.com/Knipex-8603180-7-Inch-Pliers-Wrench/dp/B000X4KP1C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461722562&sr=8-1&keywords=knipex+pliers+wrench
http://www.amazon.com/Knipex-8701180-4-Inch-Cobra-Pliers/dp/B000X4PU26?ie=UTF8&refRID=S962AHGRFZ5VNEVKHT0P&ref_=pd_ybh_a_40
http://www.blackanddecker.com/products/power-tools/hand-tools/hand-tools-sub/ratcheting-readywrenchreg/rrw100
http://www.amazon.com/Logger-Head-BW8-01R-01-Bionic-Adjustable/dp/B000BYSMCS/ref=pd_bxgy_469_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=18QFNX46RCATN652GEM7
http://www.amazon.com/Jeremywell®-Multifunctional-Flexible-Wrench-Adjustable/dp/B01AU4SDKE/ref=pd_rhf_dp_p_img_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=1T4V79NCRAVNKR35214Y

Has anyone tried these? What do you folks use for your EDC with or w/o your MT? Anything else would you recommend?

Demel · **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2016, 04:23:47 AM

I can vouch for the Knipex Pliers wrench. It may be pricey, but it is very much worth it. I have both the 7in and the 7in Cobra. By far I use the pliers wrench more. If you are looking to compliment the wave, that would be my vote.

maximus0723 · **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2016, 04:51:21 AM

Quote from: Demel on April 27, 2016, 04:23:47 AM

I can vouch for the Knipex Pliers wrench. It may be pricey, but it is very much worth it. I have both the 7in and the 7in Cobra. By far I use the pliers wrench more. If you are looking to compliment the wave, that would be my vote.

Thanks for quick reply.

Have you used their "mini pliers wrench"?
http://knipex-tools.com/index.php?id=1023&page=group_detail&parentID=1368&groupID=1500

It's 5", 3.7 oz and covers 7/8" maximal bolt size vs. 7 1/4" one that is 9oz and covers 1 3/8" bolt size.
I am mainly looking to EDC this around the home, in the yard, garage things like that. I feel 5" one would suffice for my purposes.
I know best solution would be to get both and see which one fits my needs and keep the other one in bigger tool kit. But there are expensive so I would just rather get one right now.

gregozedobe · **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2016, 05:32:13 AM

I'd be inclined to go for the Knipex Cobra version, as it will also grip things like pipes that don't have flat parallel surfaces, and the teeth in the jaws will give you a more aggressive grip on slippery things, as well as being a bit lighter and more compact. I have both the plier wrench and the cobra styles.

http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=art_detail&parentID=&groupID=1501&artID=30068

NKlamerus · **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2016, 07:19:54 AM

Id go with the Cobras. Search the forum for the sale that might still be active.

Make sure you get the grips linked above, otherwise they don't feel too good in your pocket.

parnass · **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2016, 03:07:29 PM

I have the smallest Knipex Cobra pliers and Knipex Plier Wrench. For pocket/belt carry, the Cobra pliers covers more bases and weighs less (3.1 vs 3.7 ounces). The grippy Cobra jaws can mar fasteners, so I don't used them on nuts and bolts if a wrench is available instead.

The Cobra pliers is sitting in my jean front pocket as I type this.

Edited to add that I rarely carry both a pliers multitool and Cobra pliers at the same time due to weight. I often carry a Cobra pliers paired with a Leatherman knife/screwdriver when not carrying a Rebar, Spirit, or other pliers style multitool.

maximus0723 · **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2016, 01:22:42 AM

Quote from: parnass on April 27, 2016, 03:07:29 PM

I have the smallest Knipex Cobra pliers and Knipex Plier Wrench. For pocket/belt carry, the Cobra pliers covers more bases and weighs less (3.1 vs 3.7 ounces). The grippy Cobra jaws can mar fasteners, so I don't used them on nuts and bolts if a wrench is available instead.

The Cobra pliers is sitting in my jean front pocket as I type this.

Edited to add that I rarely carry both a pliers multitool and Cobra pliers at the same time due to weight. I often carry a Cobra pliers paired with a Leatherman knife/screwdriver when not carrying a Rebar, Spirit, or other pliers style multitool.

Damaging of nuts is was also my main worry with Cobra. I am not sure but how bad of a problem is it?
So far, I have watched some videos on youtube and it didn't seem too bad.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2016, 02:27:55 AM

Have you considered something like the Loggerhead Immix?

http://multitool.org/reviews/miscellaneous-tools-68/large-tools/146-loggerhead-immix-10.html

Def

parnass · **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2016, 02:46:21 AM

Quote from: maximus0723 on April 28, 2016, 01:22:42 AM

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Damaging of nuts is was also my main worry with Cobra. I am not sure but how bad of a problem is it?
So far, I have watched some videos on youtube and it didn't seem too bad.

I am not concerned about the marring if I use the Cobra pliers (or any pliers) once or twice on the same fastener, but I wouldn't use it to make frequent adjustments on the same nut or bolt.

I use it on a nut or bolt if I am away from home and without access to a flat jaw wrench. A real world example of Cobra wrench use is tightening the nut holding a wobbly table leg when visiting a coffee shop or bookstore.

maximus0723 · **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2016, 11:29:05 AM

Quote from: parnass on April 28, 2016, 02:46:21 AM

Quote from: maximus0723 on April 28, 2016, 01:22:42 AM
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Damaging of nuts is was also my main worry with Cobra. I am not sure but how bad of a problem is it?
So far, I have watched some videos on youtube and it didn't seem too bad.

I am not concerned about the marring if I use the Cobra pliers (or any pliers) once or twice on the same fastener, but I wouldn't use it to make frequent adjustments on the same nut or bolt.

I use it on a nut or bolt if I am away from home and without access to a flat jaw wrench. A real world example of Cobra wrench use is tightening the nut holding a wobbly table leg when visiting a coffee shop or bookstore.

Thanks for answering my questions. Very helpful.

Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on April 28, 2016, 02:27:55 AM

Have you considered something like the Loggerhead Immix?

http://multitool.org/reviews/miscellaneous-tools-68/large-tools/146-loggerhead-immix-10.html

Def

Yes. I have also been looking at loggerhead bionic wrench or craftsman max axess locking wrench.
But I am leaning towards the Knipex pliers secondary to open ended jaws, quality, and weight.

Dean51 · **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2016, 02:00:13 PM

Have you thought about a pair of Irwin/Vice Grip GV6 and an adjustable wrench.

I don't know anything about KNIPEX but Irwin/Vice Grip are a good affordable tool. No matter how much you spend on pliers they all have their limits. You only have so much grip and beyond that it's time for dedicated sockets.

Sparkydave · **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2016, 10:31:45 PM

I have a few different size of knipex cobras and a 8inch plier wrench, the cobras 125mm are in my pocket every day at work and certainly earn there money! I have a larger set of irwin grips and they are also superb....if you are looking for a adjustable wrench look at the bahco range they do a 6inch wide mouthed adjustable spanner. I have a 8inch version and its super handy

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Brock O Lee · **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2016, 10:54:25 PM

I went through this same decision about a month ago. I decided on the 5inch Cobra instead of the pliers wrench for EDC as it is more versatile. It might damage a nut, but I figure I will only use it in emergencies on nuts and bolts. It is small and light, and fits nicely into the Maxpedition EDC organiser with the Rebar, bit kit etc.

I did however get the bigger 6 inch Cobra and pliers wrench for small jobs around the house. I've used the Cobra a handful of times already, but the pliers wrench only once... They make a mean combo.