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Rough Rider Trapper kit build
on: September 09, 2016, 10:34:35 PM
Started looking for a two blade traditional knife with a clip/spear main blade and a sheepsfoot secondary and non-natural handles (more here: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,68299.0.html) , but couldn't find anything that took my fancy in my price range.

Stumbled upon the Rough Rider kits and the Trapper looked like it might fit the bill, with a few modifications.


As delivered

Used the wooden covers and brass liners as a template to rough out some 3mm black G10 sheet for the build

Drilled the holes for the cover rivets and the centre spring pin.  Used a tapered diamond burr to countersink the covers for the rivet, and countersunk the back of the liners with a drill bit for the same reason.

Made sure that the covers were a tight fit between the bolsters, then sanded the liners and the back of the G10 to give a good key for the epoxy.  Glued and pinned them in place.

Clamped them up in the vice to let the glue set overnight.
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #1 on: September 09, 2016, 10:52:40 PM
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #2 on: September 10, 2016, 12:26:16 AM
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #3 on: September 10, 2016, 12:36:32 AM
Wow - that's a coincidence! I ordered the Rough Rider CS1 (single blade) kit earlier!

I can learn from your mistakes :D

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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #4 on: September 10, 2016, 08:22:51 AM
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #5 on: September 10, 2016, 01:31:32 PM
My kit just arrived. The dog decided to open it for me, but my daughter rescued the package before the contents got chewed  ::)


 
I won't have chance to have a proper look for a couple of days, but it looks to be a Buck 110-a-like which is cool :)

Anyhoo hiraethus - how did yours look this morning?  :pok:
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #6 on: September 10, 2016, 04:34:41 PM
Very neat so far Hi :cheers: Can't wait to see the finished product buddy :tu:
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #7 on: September 10, 2016, 04:35:18 PM
Quote from: DaveK on September 10, 2016, 01:31:32 PM
My kit just arrived. The dog decided to open it for me, but my daughter rescued the package before the contents got chewed  ::)


 
I won't have chance to have a proper look for a couple of days, but it looks to be a Buck 110-a-like which is cool :)

Anyhoo hiraethus - how did yours look this morning?  :pok:

You started yours yet Dave :pok: :D
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #8 on: September 10, 2016, 06:30:53 PM
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #9 on: September 10, 2016, 09:13:44 PM
Looking good H - Watching with interest - I like the other mods you done.  :popcorn:
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #10 on: September 10, 2016, 10:43:50 PM
Quote from: DaveK on September 10, 2016, 06:30:53 PM
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #11 on: September 10, 2016, 10:46:47 PM
No pics tonight, but the covers have stuck nicely to the liners and I started to shape the handles.  Have done a couple of trial builds and it's got very little snap so far.  Have already tweaked the springs to improve the snap and that's helped, but I will polish all the tools and springs next time I get chance to see if I can improve the action. Need to shorten the spey blade and cut a new nail nick next.
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #12 on: September 11, 2016, 12:02:30 AM
Quote from: hiraethus on September 10, 2016, 10:43:50 PM
Quote from: DaveK on September 10, 2016, 06:30:53 PM
Nah I'm in Wales!

Git.  I wish I was.

Well Wrexham to be precise. Home now though :)
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #13 on: September 11, 2016, 05:54:20 AM
Quote from: hiraethus on September 10, 2016, 10:46:47 PM
No pics tonight, but the covers have stuck nicely to the liners and I started to shape the handles.  Have done a couple of trial builds and it's got very little snap so far.  Have already tweaked the springs to improve the snap and that's helped, but I will polish all the tools and springs next time I get chance to see if I can improve the action. Need to shorten the spey blade and cut a new nail nick next.

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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #14 on: September 11, 2016, 07:26:06 AM
I am surprised there was internet in Wales







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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #15 on: September 11, 2016, 07:43:55 AM
:popcorn:
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #16 on: September 11, 2016, 10:13:46 AM
Quote from: dks on September 11, 2016, 07:26:06 AM
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Reply #17 on: September 11, 2016, 02:21:35 PM
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #18 on: September 18, 2016, 10:30:14 PM
I think it's junk.  Or maybe I'm doing it wrong. ???  There's nowhere near enough spring pressure to get decent snap on the blades.  Plus I reckon the springs and blades are too soft - they're easily marked with a file and bend with little force so I don't think they'll be good enough.  I don't think it's worth me carrying on with the build, which is a shame as my two factory made Rough Riders (a Barlow and a Canoe) are very nice and have a great action.
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #19 on: September 18, 2016, 10:48:55 PM
:( well that sucks. I was thinking of doing one of the kits, but I think I'll pass.....
There's no such thing as "Too pretty to carry".  There's only "Too pretty NOT to carry"...... >:D
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #20 on: September 18, 2016, 11:01:17 PM
That doesn't bode too well.

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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #21 on: September 19, 2016, 06:30:00 AM

Thats not good news H  :(
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #22 on: September 19, 2016, 07:40:33 AM
Maybe it is supposed to be a learning kit- toy, rather than something you actually use?

If not, sent it back.
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #23 on: September 19, 2016, 11:05:12 AM
I've gone too far with the build to send it back, and it was only a tenner anyway.  I'll have another go at it this week and see if  I can salvage something.
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #24 on: September 19, 2016, 04:01:18 PM
Sorry to hear it Hi :-\ Was looking forward to seeing this knife in use but I wouldn't carry something like that either :-[

Hopefully something can be salvaged from it :tu:
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #25 on: September 19, 2016, 07:39:27 PM
Damn, that's disappointing mate. :(
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #26 on: September 21, 2016, 09:14:11 PM
Right, well I finally got around to taking the bits of my kit out of their plastic just now and did a dry fit to see how well it all fits together:



Initial indications are that it fits together pretty well!



Obviously, backspring tension is less of an issue on this Buck 110-a-like locker than on hiraethus' slipjoint, but it actually feels ok on the dry-fit, and I'd expect it to get a bit more snappy when it's all peened.



I'm not sure yet whether to simply finish the scales as they intended, or whether to try something a bit fancier. It'll be a while before I can have a proper go at it so I have time to decide :)

I no longer have the power tools at my disposal that I used to make the SAK scales with - so this is going to be a proper hand crafted job, lol.
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #27 on: September 21, 2016, 09:37:12 PM
Looks promising Dave. :cheers:
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #28 on: September 21, 2016, 10:31:25 PM
Quote from: Gareth on September 21, 2016, 09:37:12 PM
Looks promising Dave. :cheers:

+1  :tu: Can't wait to see what you decide and the finished product :like:
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Re: Rough Rider Trapper kit build
Reply #29 on: September 21, 2016, 10:54:55 PM
Quote from: DaveK on September 21, 2016, 09:14:11 PM
I no longer have the power tools at my disposal that I used to make the SAK scales with - so this is going to be a proper hand crafted job, lol.

Excellent, glad it's going well.  Got a belt sander, pillar drill, Dremel and a bunch of other useful stuff in the shed if you want to use them.
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