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Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?

it Offline shadowrider

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Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
on: October 21, 2016, 07:20:38 AM
Calling all modders!

I have been thinking about this project for a while. I really want a stag scaled SAK, so I'm wondering if I could make a proper one, with pins actually going through the scales, instead of the scales just being glued on.
I'm picturing something like this:



The problem is, there seem to be no bushings, so I can't imagine how the knife layers would be able to hold together.
Thoughts?


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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #1 on: October 21, 2016, 09:40:14 AM
It is possible. Here is a knife with melamine scales and it is strong and good as a knife should be.

Older red Victorinox knives were pinned without bushings:

It is possible also make such knives with new scales, but is better to reinforced the holes with epoxi glued bushungs. It is better to choose older scales, which are not hollow. Scales are glued and then slightly peened and then the pins are filed off and scales polished.









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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #2 on: October 21, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
Yes it is possible...



I just scored/scratched a bit the area of the pin that comes in contact with the scales... dabbed a bit of super glue... let it dry, then on with the peening...


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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #3 on: October 21, 2016, 11:48:51 AM
That brassy Classic looks great. Or minichamp or whatever it is...


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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #4 on: October 21, 2016, 11:55:20 AM
Not only possible, it looks damn good too.



A brace of wood Climbers


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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #5 on: October 21, 2016, 12:11:15 PM
Wow those Climbers look awesome too!


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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #6 on: October 21, 2016, 12:15:54 PM
Wow those Climbers look awesome too!

They sold pretty well too :)


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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 12:19:54 PM
getting (slightly) back on track...
Here are a couple of "jigged and flamed bone" fake stag horn SAKs I did a couple of years ago. They both feature exposed pins

Bantam




and SwissChamp



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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #8 on: October 21, 2016, 01:07:50 PM
Lots of traditional folders are assembled without bushings. The main reason they are necessary on a SAK I so the standard scales can clip to them. I you're not using standard scales, they're not needed.

On traditional knives, the scales are often drilled with a tapered drill, which allows the pin to expand in peening. You can get around this without tapered drills by drilling through at the "correct" size, then part drilling (counterboring) with a fractionally larger drill (for example if drilled 3mm, coubterbore with 1/8" = 3.175mm) and slightly counter sinking the face to allow the mushroomed head to sit flush.

With wood scales, this can be sanded after to tidy it up, but with stag you might not want to do that necessarily, and so you need to be more careful in peening so you don't hit the scales. Go slow, and peen with a pin punch.

Of course if you don't plan to take this apart again any time soon, "glueing" the scale to the liner before peening will be and extra precaution to stop the scale coming adrift.


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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 06:01:35 PM
That brassy Classic looks great. Or minichamp or whatever it is...
Thx... its a minichamp




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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 09:55:31 PM
Awesome, thanks for all the infos!


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Re: Modding: is it possible to pin through the scales?
Reply #11 on: October 22, 2016, 04:51:37 AM
Awesome, thanks for all the infos!

+1 :like:

Those are some beautiful pics of some very nice looking SAKs :o :drool:


 

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