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Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS

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Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
on: December 10, 2016, 06:03:01 PM
It doesn't fit.  Has someone done a modification for it to work with the fluted corkscrew?


Here it fits in a more modern Spartan I have.



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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 06:04:53 PM
:think:

I've got a "PAT" screwdriver in mine to keep it as close to original date as possible, but I'd never think the modern hex version would be any different.


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #2 on: December 10, 2016, 06:07:50 PM
:think:

I've got a "PAT" screwdriver in mine to keep it as close to original date as possible, but I'd never think the modern hex version would be any different.

I think I'm going to have to locate a PAT version then.  This one I bought from a reputable Swiss store, so I know it's genuine...it just doesn't fit the fluted CS.
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 06:14:39 PM
Hmmm, I have a fluted CS on my Greenwood, but it accepts the hex shaped driver and the older PAT one too  :think: That's weird.
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 06:25:04 PM
Hmmmm, that is perplexing, I just tried another screwdriver from another model, non-PAT, it didn't work either.  :think:
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 06:31:05 PM
That's what I don't get about corkscrews, even between non-fluted ones, the mini-screw driver can either not fit perfectly, fit but loose or not fit at all...


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #6 on: December 10, 2016, 07:10:57 PM
That's what I don't get about corkscrews, even between non-fluted ones, the mini-screw driver can either not fit perfectly, fit but loose or not fit at all...
The corkscrews are made by a French company.
Who knows how strict they follow measurements?
Not saying they can't measure stuff up, but they're not Swiss either...


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #7 on: December 10, 2016, 07:22:40 PM
Ahhh


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #8 on: December 10, 2016, 07:53:14 PM
Just tried mine in both of my fluted corkscrews and it's a no go here too. :(
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #9 on: December 10, 2016, 08:13:56 PM
Just tried mine in both of my fluted corkscrews and it's a no go here too. :(
Thank you for checking. I was beginning to think it was just mine.


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #10 on: December 10, 2016, 09:35:12 PM
Just got home...

And the hex screwdriver doesn't fit my fluted corkscrew either...

I have to say I'm surprised...


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #11 on: December 10, 2016, 09:56:12 PM
Just got home...

And the hex screwdriver doesn't fit my fluted corkscrew either...

I have to say I'm surprised...
Thank you for checking.
Looks like we will all have to look for the older ones with the PAT imprint.


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #12 on: December 10, 2016, 09:58:48 PM
As far as I remember no corkscrew insert fits the old style corkscrew.  I specifically had people request modern corkscrews before when I worked on older SAKs for that exact reason.  The hex and round mini screwdriver fit the same exact way, at least the ones I have here.
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #13 on: December 10, 2016, 10:22:25 PM
As far as I remember no corkscrew insert fits the old style corkscrew.  I specifically had people request modern corkscrews before when I worked on older SAKs for that exact reason.  The hex and round mini screwdriver fit the same exact way, at least the ones I have here.
All my screwdrivers with the PAT markings fit my fluted corkscrew...
they're quite snug, but it's a fit.


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #14 on: December 10, 2016, 10:33:55 PM
As far as I remember no corkscrew insert fits the old style corkscrew.  I specifically had people request modern corkscrews before when I worked on older SAKs for that exact reason.  The hex and round mini screwdriver fit the same exact way, at least the ones I have here.
All my screwdrivers with the PAT markings fit my fluted corkscrew...
they're quite snug, but it's a fit.

Ive only got one of the old style corkscrews here and nothing fits it.  Now I have no idea if there was more than one version of the fluted corkscrew though, or it its just part deviation error.  I know Ive heard others complain about it though, not being able to put in the mini driver.
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #15 on: December 10, 2016, 10:46:45 PM
As far as I remember no corkscrew insert fits the old style corkscrew.  I specifically had people request modern corkscrews before when I worked on older SAKs for that exact reason.  The hex and round mini screwdriver fit the same exact way, at least the ones I have here.
All my screwdrivers with the PAT markings fit my fluted corkscrew...
they're quite snug, but it's a fit.

Ive only got one of the old style corkscrews here and nothing fits it.  Now I have no idea if there was more than one version of the fluted corkscrew though, or it its just part deviation error.  I know Ive heard others complain about it though, not being able to put in the mini driver.
And I only have 1 fluted corkscrew :rofl:


Got about 4 "PAT" marked screwdrivers.

Got those when I asked some mini screwdrivers at my local dealer, who probably had them in stock quite some time.
Last time I asked, I received the current variant. I'm guessing I'm the only one who buys them there.


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #16 on: December 10, 2016, 11:43:08 PM
I'm going to try and find a PAT imprint mini driver.
Going to post a want to buy now.
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #17 on: December 11, 2016, 10:16:17 AM
I'm going to try and find a PAT imprint mini driver.
Going to post a want to buy now.
I'd send you one, but from Europe to America...
It wouldn't justify the shipping cost.
You could probably buy 20 drivers for that price :D


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #18 on: December 11, 2016, 01:15:57 PM
I'm going to try and find a PAT imprint mini driver.
Going to post a want to buy now.
I'd send you one, but from Europe to America...
It wouldn't justify the shipping cost.
You could probably buy 20 drivers for that price :D

Thank you for considering it.  The good news is I did find one yesterday on the auction site.  A photo of it confirmed it has "Pat" on the plastic part and he mentioned it in the description as well.  :tu:
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #19 on: December 11, 2016, 01:54:21 PM
I'm going to try and find a PAT imprint mini driver.
Going to post a want to buy now.
I'd send you one, but from Europe to America...
It wouldn't justify the shipping cost.
You could probably buy 20 drivers for that price :D

Thank you for considering it.  The good news is I did find one yesterday on the auction site.  A photo of it confirmed it has "Pat" on the plastic part and he mentioned it in the description as well.  :tu:
:tu: ;)
Suddenly I appreciate my PAT drivers a bit more...


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #20 on: December 15, 2016, 02:34:59 PM
My "Pat" driver is scheduled to arrive today.  Hope it fits!
I'll post a pic this afternoon.
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #21 on: December 16, 2016, 01:35:29 AM
New-old stock one fits!



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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #23 on: December 16, 2016, 02:28:50 AM
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #24 on: December 16, 2016, 10:42:31 AM
It doesn't fit.  Has someone done a modification for it to work with the fluted corkscrew?
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Here it fits in a more modern Spartan I have.
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Well this is strange - I have a very old Alpineer that has a fluted corkscrew, but the modern hexagonal mini screwdriver fits it perfectly!
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #25 on: December 16, 2016, 01:56:42 PM

Well this is strange - I have a very old Alpineer that has a fluted corkscrew, but the modern hexagonal mini screwdriver fits it perfectly!

True, it seems from replies here, that it's just a hit and miss which mini screwdriver fits in the fluted CS.  Glad I found one that worked.
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #26 on: December 16, 2016, 03:46:16 PM
It doesn't fit.  Has someone done a modification for it to work with the fluted corkscrew?
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Here it fits in a more modern Spartan I have.
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Well this is strange - I have a very old Alpineer that has a fluted corkscrew, but the modern hexagonal mini screwdriver fits it perfectly!

haha well I think we all just discovered there is some variance in the design over the years, so try what works.  :D
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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #27 on: December 16, 2016, 11:45:54 PM
Glad I could help!

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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #28 on: December 31, 2016, 06:43:43 AM
I bought a non PAT driver a couple years ago at a dealer in a local mall and it fits my 80's era Waiter. Tonight I tried the one from my new Explorer and it worked as well.

I heard that some of the corkscrews were/are made in Japan because they are equipped better to produce them. I wonder if there really are different suppliers.


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Re: Modern small screwdriver in fluted CS
Reply #29 on: December 31, 2016, 06:47:05 AM
I bought a non PAT driver a couple years ago at a dealer in a local mall and it fits my 80's era Waiter. Tonight I tried the one from my new Explorer and it worked as well.

I heard that some of the corkscrews were/are made in Japan because they are equipped better to produce them. I wonder if there really are different suppliers.
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In looking at my post I notice now that while the driver screws easily into the 84mm Waiter ' s corkscrew,  it appears not to go in as far as the one on the 91mm Explorer. Maybe they are different.

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