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Outdoor Section => The Axe Hole => Topic started by: Pacu on December 19, 2012, 03:22:40 AM
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Yesterday in the post I received an axe head from lowtech ( many thanks :D). It needs a bit of TLC. I have never restored an axe head so this will be fun for all. ;)
here is a link to the original posting
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,40974.0.html
so first off here it is upon arrival. Micra for measurement sake.
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here is the flip side
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and into an oil bath to loosen some rust up
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after a couple of hours and a good wipedown with a rag...
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From the marks i can make out it is a Helko brand axe head - made in Germany. Not sure at to the date range on it. There are some numbers looks like above the name and a clover type mark on the flip side. It appears to been green at some point as there is green paint on it.
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After looking up some axe restoration videos on youtube looks like i started out wrong. The concensus says to soak the head in a rust removal solution..vinegar is mentioned quite a bit as is CLR- a kitchen lime/rust removal liquid. CLR seems a bit harsh and $$. Vinegar it is!
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and in for a good couple of days with the lid on..vinegar is rank!
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Great thread mate :)
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:popcorn:
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Looks like the stinky vinegar is doing a right good job.
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rust bits falling off the axe head. After i get off work i'll go by and pick up some dobie or scotch brite scouring pads.
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Thats pretty cool. Its one mean looking axe head.
I saw the original pic when it still had a handle and it made me wonder if the handle was on backwards or by design. I would think you'd want the nail puller pointed down toward the hand and handle, but in the pic it was pointing up. :think: Seems like it would be easier to pull a nail and use it crow bar style. No idea but that's my few cents. :D
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Yeah, I know wat you mean. Depends which way the taper is in the eye though I suppose :think:
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Here is what i came home to today. Vinegar does a really good job at rust removal. Might add that it is cheap and readily available, stinks to high heaven though. :P :skull:
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Went by Home Depot and picked up some scotch bright pads and some high grit paper. Not sure if i want to use the grit paper yet.
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After some scrubbing with a scotch pad... about 10 minutes or so of elbow grease...beagles ran away from the horrible stink.
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not too bad for a 20 hour soak in vinegar. Think i'll let it soak a bit more.
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That's coming up a treat mate :tu:
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Very nice job Pacu
That's in really good condition and looks like it won't take a lot of work to sharpen it :tu:
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Very good progress pics. :tu: We'll need a performance demonstration video when it's done too. :pok:
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from this
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to this
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now back to the tub for an oil soak for a while. Thanks for the inside tip on keeping it rust free after the vinegar bath sparky415 :tu:
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now what to use
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I'm kind of digging that claw hammer butt
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8) 8) , enjoying the progress mate :cheers: :cheers:
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prob heading out for the holidays but next week.... :o
1. gotta find a proper handle - hang it. I've read things about putting beeswax on the handle to make it less slippery.
2. sharpen it...i've sharpened axes in scouts but want to do this one justice. Still researching how to do a good job here. ::)
3. right now i've got the helko soaking in rem oil. This has been an interesting little project.
here is an idea to run past yall... Instead of letting the axe head sit in stagnant vinegar de-rustifing ( not a real word ) i came up with maybe using an airstone assembly from an aquarium to move the vinegar around in a tub.
like this but instead of water use vinegar solution..
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or course it would have to be done on a porch outside to keep the wonderful aromatics at bay. :-X
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Looking good mate. :tu:
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:tu: It´s good to see this head come back to life.
I am, too thinking the head was upside down, the handle clearly wasn´t teh first one on it and sat in teh head neither straight nor really fitting.
My brother mentioned that this Axe might be a German army (Bundeswehr) Axe like it was carried on Motor vehicles or one from the ex-GDR "Volksarmee", seems both carried Axes like that on their vehicles.
I just googled Helko Axes and they seem to be still producing Axes in Wuppertal, Germany (A city less known than Solingen, but nearby and producing very good cutlery and steel products for th least few hundred years)
Their American site is here:
http://www.helkonorthamerica.com/
As they are a Western German manufacturer, i guess we can rule them ouut for equipping the ormer GDR, making your Axe most likely a Bundeswehr item.
I found them for sale at a german Surplus-shop.
Here you can get an idea of the original handle shape:
http://www.raeer.com/shopexd.asp?id=20141
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now..back to business
been looking for a suitable handle at a couple of hardware stores...christmas traffic is still :poh: :td: :bnghd: :surrender: :wait: :ahhh
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finding a handle for this is harder than i thought. :think:
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just a tad less than 2 cm across, and 4 cm long
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Head for the woods, find a dead tree with a straight branch, take your axe and chop thro.... oh - it hasn't got a handle has it
:facepalm:
:P :angel: :D :D
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Head for the woods, find a dead tree with a straight branch, take your axe and chop thro.... oh - it hasn't got a handle has it
:facepalm:
:P :angel: :D :D
i'll use my teeth :D
i think i found a handle at house handle company. at 4 bucks i'll risk it.
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Head for the woods, find a dead tree with a straight branch, take your axe and chop thro.... oh - it hasn't got a handle has it
:facepalm:
:P :angel: :D :D
:rofl:
Sounded like a good advice though. ;)
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Head for the woods, find a dead tree with a straight branch, take your axe and chop thro.... oh - it hasn't got a handle has it
:facepalm:
:P :angel: :D :D
:rofl:
Sounded like a good advice though. ;)
Works for hammers :whistle:
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Still :popcorn:
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Head for the woods, find a dead tree with a straight branch, take your axe and chop thro.... oh - it hasn't got a handle has it
:facepalm:
:P :angel: :D :D
this is pert near the way to go. After finding nothing close to the size head opening i need i'll just make my own out of a hickory wheel barrow handle.
Time to put woodcarving merit badge to some use. :facepalm:
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This one i ordered from handle company was not big enough to fill all spaces in the head.
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So using my Hunter XT saw i cut down the handle to a lenght that felt right.
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Now to start removing material and and shaping the handle.
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It’s a shame the store bought handle didn’t fit :(
Nice looking bit of hickory :tu:
:popcorn:
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It’s a shame the store bought handle didn’t fit :(
Nice looking bit of hickory :tu:
:popcorn:
Took a while for the XT to cut thru it too. :P
THis weekend i'll go find a proper wood rasp to aid in removal of wood. I'll prob order some of those round wedges to secure the head on when finished.
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The air stone idea in the vinegar sounds like it would work to me. Perhaps not a lot more effective over soak, scrub repeat though.
On the next one you do, try electrolysis. It's a very sympathetic way to remove rust off old tools.
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I found an ancient axe-head, obviously hand made throughout. I put an edge on it, but left the rust patina as a testament to it's age. I mounted it on a hickory handle, but it kept slipping off. That's when I discovered the tapered hole, and the handle was installed the wrong way thru it. They were a lot smarter back then, than I was giving them credit for.
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Stew,
I have read about using electrolysis,
I thought about doing it myself as I have various car chargers etc scattered around so the bits shouldn’t cost me anything, any tips? :salute:
Landrew,
Pictures please Mate :tu:
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Stew,
I have read about using electrolysis,
I thought about doing it myself as I have various car chargers etc scattered around so the bits shouldn’t cost me anything, any tips? :salute:
Landrew,
Pictures please Mate :tu:
Oh my, I've lived over five decades without taking many pictures along the way. That changed of course, with the advent of smartphones, but that axe has since disappeared, possibly buried again for future generations to rediscover.
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Stew,
I have read about using electrolysis,
I thought about doing it myself as I have various car chargers etc scattered around so the bits shouldn’t cost me anything, any tips? :salute:
Landrew,
Pictures please Mate :tu:
Oh my, I've lived over five decades without taking many pictures along the way. That changed of course, with the advent of smartphones, but that axe has since disappeared, possibly buried again for future generations to rediscover.
Thanks anyway :salute: I like to see how these things turn out
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still a work in progress....been super busy at work with the overtime eating into my weekends.
when i get time off i sleep and veg out. Running new cat5 and fiber is beating me like a rented mule.
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Cat5 as in UTP?
Just get your rest. :salute: We'll be here when you get the time. :tu:
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I've done my share of cable-pulling Pacu so you have my sympathy. :-\
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:pok:
:popcorn:
:D
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pssst...got done with the epic remodel at work ...back to regular hours for a month. Back to project Helko!
:tu:
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looking forward to it mate. :tu:
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started roughing in the handle with a wood rasp. going slow as not to screw it up. wood is super dense.
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:tu:
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i screwed it up. :facepalm:
didn't hang right so starting over after i watch a s-ton of youtube videos on the matter.
sorry to keep everyone in hiatus but i'd rather do it right and it not bother me than to look at it everyday wishing i'd done better.
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update...i emailed today Helko (german site) using google translate asking for a proper replacement handle as apartment woodworking 101 is not progressing as necessary.
Helko has a north american site but they do not carry the claw hatchet or replacement handles.
as a back up i ordered a couple of claw hatchet handles from another company...should be here monday. at 3 bucks why not?
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:popcorn:
:D
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:D
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ummm yeaaaa BUMP
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Looking good mate, very good in fact. :cheers:
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Looking good mate, very good in fact. :cheers:
+1 Nice job :salute:
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Not my handiwork but my father in laws. He has a whole wood workshop bout 350 km up the road . He was down for the weekend helping us with housing inspection. I explained my lack of woodworking skills. ::) He has built near every clan member a rocking chair, toolchest, oh and he built his own house. Wish I had woodworking skills. :facepalm:
Anyway he took the handle to a lathe and made it dead center head alignment.
Next up -- sharpening and maybe beeswax or linseed oil to the handle.
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:tu: It´s coming along nicely.
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Just discovered this thread. :tu:
You could use some paracord to wrap the handle. Better grip, easier on the hand, plus a way to have some paracord handy for any emergency.