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victorinox steel material explained..
« on: August 17, 2007, 11:42:51 PM »
hi..

we have a discussion in britishblades forum about SAK's steel materials.. i thought i can start a new topic here too..;)

i sent an e-mail to victorinox but they've replied in sweedish so i couldn't understand any word at all.. :D i think it was in sweedish.. ;D
anyway, then i sent another email to Kirk McCormick..:)

today, i had an e-mail reply from Kirk McCormick from www.SwissArmyKnifeMall.com regarding the steel material used in victorinox swiss army knives..
(i also want to thank him for helping us for finding the answer..)






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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 12:30:01 AM »
We have much of that kind of information posted at www.sosakonline.com and www.sakwiki.com as well.

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 01:35:56 AM »
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14.  Where can I find some technical info like blade steels and what years certain tools were introduced?

Technical info can be found all over this site, the SOSAK forum at Knifeforums.com and at both the Victorinox and Wenger homepages.  Here is a selection of common answers:

* Blades – Stainless chrome molybdenum steel, mixed from carbon, chrome, molybdenum, manganese & silicum.
* Blade Hardening – 1,900 degrees F. (and annealing temperature of 140 degrees). RC 56.
* Wood saw, scissors and nail files – RC 53.
* Screwdrivers, tin openers and awls – RC 52.
* Corkscrew and springs – RC 49.
* Separators – Nickel silver until 1951; Alox since 1951.
* Rivets – Brass.
* Scales – Cellidor.
* Can opener – Patented in 1951.
* Bottle opener – Introduced in 1942.
* Keyring – Replaced shackle in 1968.
* Tweezers – Introduced in 1902.
* Wood Saw – Introduced in 1902.
* Scissors – Introduced in 1902.
* Multi-Purpose Hook – Introduced in 1991.
* Fish scaler – Introduced in 1952.
* Nail file – Introduced in 1952.
* Chisel – Introduced in 1985.
* Phillips screwdriver – Introduced in 1952.
* Ballpoint pen – Introduced in 1985.
* Mini-screwdriver – Patented in 1983.

This is credited as Info by Victorinox -
 For both blades we use chrome molydenum stainless steel with 0.52% carbon, 15% chromium, 0.5% molydenum, 0.45% manganese and 0.6% silicium. After a sophisticated hardening process at 1040°C and an annealing temperature of 160°C the blades achieve a hardness of RC 56. * The woodsaw, scissors and nail files have a hardness of RC 53, the screwdriver, tin opener and awl a hardness of RC 52, and the corkscrew and springs RC 49. * The metal saw and file, in addition to the special case hardening, are also subjected to a hard chromium plating process so that iron and steel can also be filed und cut. * The separators have been made from aluminium alloy since 1951. This makes the knife lighter and easier to carry in one\'s pocket. Formerly these separating layers were made of nickel-silver.

from http://www.sosakonline.co...w&id=93&Itemid=61 ..:)

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2007, 01:59:42 AM »
Yup, that's the stuff!

Thanks for taking the time to credit the source- many folks don't and I appreciate it when they do!

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2007, 02:37:52 AM »
i know because i have a forum too.. :D ( http://www.dijitalfokus.com/index.php?action=forum )

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2007, 03:08:05 AM »
That looks like an awesome forum except for all those spelling errors!  :pok:

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2007, 03:23:33 AM »
 :D :D :D

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2007, 10:26:53 AM »
Welcome dadanagast . Nice to see you here . Wonder how long it will take me to persuade you to get a Swisstool  ;D

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2007, 11:07:31 AM »
Welcome dadanagast . Nice to see you here . Wonder how long it will take me to persuade you to get a Swisstool  ;D

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Well if we work on him together?

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2007, 02:14:24 PM »
Sooner if you introduce him to Felinevet's prices! :P

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2007, 04:33:34 PM »
Welcome dadanagast . Nice to see you here . Wonder how long it will take me to persuade you to get a Swisstool  ;D

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              Dunc,you need to start working on mastery of the pokey stick :pok:
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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2007, 05:16:46 PM »
Welcome dadanagast . Nice to see you here . Wonder how long it will take me to persuade you to get a Swisstool  ;D

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              Dunc,you need to start working on mastery of the pokey stick :pok:

This is very true  ;)  Ok here we go  :pok: :pok: :pok:

That wasnt so bad , hay i could get used to this  :pok:

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2007, 05:18:32 PM »
Welcome dadanagast . Nice to see you here . Wonder how long it will take me to persuade you to get a Swisstool  ;D

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              Dunc,you need to start working on mastery of the pokey stick :pok:

This is very true  ;)  Ok here we go  :pok: :pok: :pok:

That wasnt so bad , hay i could get used to this  :pok:

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you,ve still got away to go before your a true master like pwork ;D
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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2007, 07:52:50 PM »
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Wonder how long it will take me to persuade you to get a Swisstool 

 :D :D :D i don't think it will take long before i say okay.. ;D

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Sooner if you introduce him to Felinevet's prices!

ok i'm waiting to be introduced.. ;D

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2007, 08:20:06 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2007, 08:56:43 PM »
http://felinevet.sosakonl...=com_phpshop&Itemid=1

wow !!! :) price is really good, but they don't have in-stock.. :-\

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2007, 09:23:29 PM »
He always has stock.  Send him an email and see.

felinevet@sosakonline.com

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2007, 10:23:22 PM »
http://felinevet.sosakonl...=com_phpshop&Itemid=1

wow !!! :) price is really good, but they don't have in-stock.. :-\
He get so much new stock in every week, that unless he hired a fleet of data inputers, there'd be no way he could keep the lists updated :)

seriously drop him an email for ANY of your knife and tool requirements, he can lay his hands on just about anything and best of all it all goes to chariety :) :)
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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2007, 12:42:47 AM »
okay.. :D firstly i have to make a list then.. ;D

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2007, 10:00:02 AM »
So you've decided on a spirit then and not its bigger brother , be sure to check out the reviews of both .

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2007, 01:26:52 PM »

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2007, 02:46:38 PM »
yes duncan, i think spirit is looking better and it has the tools i need.. :)
i read the reviews before but i read them again.. :D
one question though.. i know swisstool has locking blade but what about spirit?.. ???

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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2007, 04:04:10 PM »
Yes the Spirit is all locking , you wont be disappointed  ;D

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Re: victorinox steel material explained..
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2007, 06:01:45 PM »
Yes the Spirit is all locking , you wont be disappointed  ;D

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there both lockers, but there far from aggresive looking, so you should'nt have any problems where the laws concerned as long as you not doing anything stupid ;)
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