ALox knives, I don't get it.

[J-sews]

What's not to love here? 


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Oooooooooooooooooooooo!  Nice!! 

Column four, row two for me!

[DaveK]

Are the blue ones all Farmers GG?

[Gadget Guy]

What's not to love here? 


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Oooooooooooooooooooooo!  Nice!! 

Column four, row two for me!

Lumberjack....    

[Gadget Guy]

Are the blue ones all Farmers GG?

Yes, but the middle one has scissors. 

[jzmtl]

I guess it comes down to that I'm almost always function over appearance, so I'd prefer the functionality of 91mm over alox.

It's not just the appearance though, it's the whole structure of the SAK.

But what advantage does the whole structure of alox have over cellidor?

I thought about EDCing the soldier instead of delux tinker, but I'm just not willing to give up the scissor, hook, or phillips driver.

[DaveK]

Are the blue ones all Farmers GG?

Yes, but the middle one has scissors!

Oh - is that a modded one then? Sorry - I don't keep up with SAKs, I just picked a few I liked (including a blue Farmer as it happens).

[Gadget Guy]

Are the blue ones all Farmers GG?

Yes, but the middle one has scissors!

Oh - is that a modded one then? Sorry - I don't keep up with SAKs, I just picked a few I liked (including a blue Farmer as it happens).

Dave, sorry my friend, I didn't mean to add (!!!!) LOL!!! 

[DaveK]

You've lost me now GG

Anyhoo - bottom right hand corner - blue one - is that smooth alox finish? I do quite like those too - but the pattern on the Farmers etc is best IMO.

[Mr. Whippy]

I like the zytel as well, and I'm sure Kwakster said quite recently that he hadn't seen any issues with it.

Good to hear.    Once again LM shows themselves to be high quality.

And GG:

 

[felinevet]

As usual, this is an "each to his own" question. I agree with every one of the positive comments for Alox that have been made. If I had to choose just one (luckily I don't) I would pick Alox hands down.

[max6166]

There's nothing wrong with preferring cellidor. I love 'em all! 

Having said that, I am in love with alox at the moment, and here's why.

I really do notice the difference in width. The Cadet is simply amazing for pocket carry, but even the Farmer seems to sit in the pocket much better to me.

The minimal tool compliment serves me just fine on the average day. I never really used the T&T anyway.

I do miss a couple of the back tools a little, but I can easily make do without. I usually have a multitool in my bag anyway.

The only tool that I really miss is scissors. I imagine that's no surprise to anyone here... 

Like others, I also feel like the entire construction is more robust. It just feels very solid in the hand.

And lastly, I simply think alox looks extremely cool. 

[bren10man]

What's not to love here? 


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I do not see a First Mate in that collection.  Are you on felinevet's list?

BTW: felinevet- check e-mail.  Two packages of goodies sent to you today!!!!

[Magic Bus]

Another Alox fan here. What's not to like? Especially ones with brass 

[jzmtl]

Well, I decided I'll carry it for a bit and see. The main blade is disappointing as it's not sharp out of box, and must've been sharpened at 50° at factory, with uneven grind on both side.  But it's nothing I can't fix, it's now shaving sharp and ready for work.

[Swiss Man]

I found this quote, "The scales survive longer than their cellidor counterparts and the tools are thicker and heavier duty so they work harder and longer." http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=35 and had to prove DEF wrong. What a slippery slope I discovered.

I was perfectly happy with my little Camper, now after I have carried ALOX (Pioneer series not a fan of the Cadet even though it feels more rugged then the celliod scales its not as bullet proof feeling as the Pioneer series) Sorry cadet fans. I don't even like the feel of the celliod scales now.

I only have interest in two celliod models:

1) A red static classic, because it's cool looking, a gift from the wife and I like having the scirrors, T & T. 

2) The OHT it takes care of my OH need ( really not a need but a want) and I love that locking screwdriver
I think you could pry open a vault with it (don't take it though armed guards may shoot you).

I could have saved myself a lot of money if I read DEF's article first.   









toIt  one  (IMHO Bullet Proof ffimcja

[felinevet]

I do not see a First Mate in that collection.  Are you on felinevet's list?

BTW: felinevet- check e-mail.  Two packages of goodies sent to you today!!!!

Wahoo!  Those of you waiting for 1st. Mates should be getting yours now or in the next shipment. It will take a bit since many of you are International but I will get on it as soon as the packages arrive from John. Watch your emails because I will be contacting you for payment soon.  Thanks John, great job!

[skydan]

A Vic Soldier '08 turned up at the weekend. My first chunky alox! Now I can see what all the fuss is about. I hadn't realised that the tools themselves were actually beefier than the 91mm cellidor models. Even the bottle opener is chunkier - much like the chunky one on some of the 111mm models. The metal handles allow the overall knife to be slimmer which is always a good thing. I do like the end-on awl.

I can see the missing tools are a negative point though - the corkscrew is an essential camping item Nope. I'm sold. Now if only I can get a Harvester perhaps it will encourage me to do some gardening...

[Gareth]

Am I the only other person that prefers cellidor?  Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Alox but I do feel they are lacking as EDC tools.  Sitting in front of me I have my Sportsman, in a two layer knife (like the Pioneer) I have as extras: toothpick, tweezers, nail-file, corkscrew, sewing eye and spaces to hold both the micro-driver and pin.  That's seven extra functions!  But that's just one knife, you also have to look at the vast range of tool that are simple not available in the alox range, far to many to list here.   I also find the cellidor much more tactile and pleasing in the hand, I will concede however that is a personal choice.

As to the extra "beefiness" I have never found the cellidor knives lacking.  Who here has managed to break one?  Or perhaps tried to do something with Alox they wouldn't have done with a Cellidor?  I know you can break a cellidor SAK (I have seen plenty) but it is possible to break any tool.

As I say I truly have nothing against Alox (and own several), but like jzmtl I just don't understand the passion that some folks have for them.  All this goes to show is that the world would be a very boring place if we all liked the same things.  Not to mention it would give us little to chat about here. 

[jzmtl]

I did notice one advantage of alox soldier, they are easy to clean and dry so better suited for food use, which I'm always hesitant to use cellidors (hard to clean/dry under scale) or tac folders (wash away pivot lube).

[I'm Still Bison]

Am I the only other person that prefers cellidor?  Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Alox but I do feel they are lacking as EDC tools.  Sitting in front of me I have my Sportsman, in a two layer knife (like the Pioneer) I have as extras: toothpick, tweezers, nail-file, corkscrew, sewing eye and spaces to hold both the micro-driver and pin.  That's seven extra functions!  But that's just one knife, you also have to look at the vast range of tool that are simple not available in the alox range, far to many to list here.   I also find the cellidor much more tactile and pleasing in the hand, I will concede however that is a personal choice.

As to the extra "beefiness" I have never found the cellidor knives lacking.  Who here has managed to break one?  Or perhaps tried to do something with Alox they wouldn't have done with a Cellidor?  I know you can break a cellidor SAK (I have seen plenty) but it is possible to break any tool.

As I say I truly have nothing against Alox (and own several), but like jzmtl I just don't understand the passion that some folks have for them.  All this goes to show is that the world would be a very boring place if we all liked the same things.  Not to mention it would give us little to chat about here. 

 I understand and appreciate where you're coming from.The Alox line eveolved from a knife that's a part of a soldier's kit,and most troopers are going to be either service types that have access to a full toolbox,or grunts whose equipment is generally designed to be low maintenance in the field.

[skydan]

I did notice one advantage of alox soldier, they are easy to clean and dry so better suited for food use, which I'm always hesitant to use cellidors (hard to clean/dry under scale) or tac folders (wash away pivot lube).

Good point. I use a 108mm Solo as a camp kitchen knife for ease of cleaning. After all if we knew what kind of gunk accumulated under the scales would we put the toothpick anywhere near our mouths? On the other hand it's one way to build up an immunity.

[Mr. Whippy]

 I understand and appreciate where you're coming from.The Alox line eveolved from a knife that's a part of a soldier's kit,and most troopers are going to be either service types that have access to a full toolbox,or grunts whose equipment is generally designed to be low maintenance in the field.

Yes.  I also thought the cellidor scaled ones were the "Officer's Knife" the Alox was the "Soldier's Knife".   

[I'm Still Bison]

 I understand and appreciate where you're coming from.The Alox line eveolved from a knife that's a part of a soldier's kit,and most troopers are going to be either service types that have access to a full toolbox,or grunts whose equipment is generally designed to be low maintenance in the field.

Yes.  I also thought the cellidor scaled ones were the "Officer's Knife" the Alox was the "Soldier's Knife".   

You're right.They stem from the days when an officer would sit back at HQ,and tell his unit; "Go take that hill,and I'll be back here to pop the cork to toast your success."

[Black Rose]

Other than the Alox Classic SD that I EDC on my keychain, all of my other Alox SAKs (08 Soldier, Red Cadet, Bantam II) are currently for the collection.

I'm not really keen on the worn look coloured Alox SAKs get, and was actually quite annoyed when the colour on my Blue Alox Classic started to wear after only a month in my pocket.

[ringzero]

Am I the only other person that prefers cellidor?  Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Alox but I do feel they are lacking as EDC tools.

I too greatly prefer cellidor over Alox SAKs.

I started carrying a SAK over 25 years ago because it offered MORE functionality when compared to the Case and Camillus knives I'd been carrying.

Why would I switch to an Alox model offering LESS functionality?

If I wanted a knife with less functionality, I'd go back to carrying a Case.  I like the looks of the traditional Case Camper or Scout pocket knives better than most SAKs.  And Case offers a pretty big variety of scales from the factory.

Lately I try to avoid any aluminum items for pocket carry.  Even hard anodizing wears off eventually when rubbing up against keys, coins, etc.  Knives, flashlights, lighters - nearly any aluminum item will look battered after a few months of carry in my pockets.

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[Benner]

Other than the Alox Classic SD that I EDC on my keychain, all of my other Alox SAKs (08 Soldier, Red Cadet, Bantam II) are currently for the collection.

I'm not really keen on the worn look coloured Alox SAKs get, and was actually quite annoyed when the colour on my Blue Alox Classic started to wear after only a month in my pocket.

I think that worn alox looks superb.  Especially red. 

[AndyTiedye]

A sheath or pouch for your alox will keep it away from those nasty keys and looking nice.

[Black Rose]

True. 

I did pick up a Kershaw nylon sheath recently to carry my SAKs (liked it better than the Vic pouches).

[Pacu]

A sheath or pouch for your alox will keep it away from those nasty keys and looking nice.

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Nice sheath   Where do i pick up one of those?

[AndyTiedye]

Those were being sold by "knuckleduster" on EDC forums a while back.
It is actually a wallet, with a sheath in the front,
along with another compartment that fits an iPhone perfectly (which was a pretty neat trick, since he made them before the iPhone was released).