Face to a name

[sawman]

A updated pic ,older and balder

Nice pic and nice bike Paul. I too live close to water and that's one thing I like about Florida

[Zed]

A updated pic ,older and balder

Nice pic and nice bike Paul. I too live close to water and that's one thing I like about Florida

Cheers steve,its the reason why i moved from london 15 years ago 

[Grant Lamontagne]

Not that anyone wants or needs a new photo of me, but here I am dreading the start of work as usual.

Def

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[pfrsantos]

Not that anyone wants or needs a new photo of me, but here I am dreading the start of work as usual.

Def

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Yeah, you look a bit down...
 

[Grant Lamontagne]

I'm at work. Nuff said.

Def

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[Mercury]

Work sucks!

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[Grant Lamontagne]

One of these days we'll sit down, have a beer and I'll tell you why today's job sucked. 

Def

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[Mercury]

One of these days we'll sit down, have a beer and I'll tell you why today's job sucked. 

Def

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Sounds good!! Sign me up!




My day sucked too, for many reasons. 

[MultiMat]

One of these days we'll sit down, have a beer and I'll tell you why today's job sucked. 

Def

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Did this happen Def 


I saw this on Mr.T's World's Craziest Fools tv show last night & thought of you mate 

[Mercury]

Wow!!  I can't believe that guy was walking around under that so casual!   

[MultiMat]

Wow!!  I can't believe that guy was walking around under that so casual!   

Yehh  I think those guys were VERY lucky & it looks like the container landed in a fairly safe spot , well I hope it did 

[David]

   Oh my      wow!

[derekmac]

Yikes!   

[Grant Lamontagne]

One of these days we'll sit down, have a beer and I'll tell you why today's job sucked. 

Def

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Did this happen Def 


I saw this on Mr.T's World's Craziest Fools tv show last night & thought of you mate 

No, that didn't happen, but is the stuff I deal with on a fairly regular basis.   

Yesterday was all about stupid BS that someone in an office dreamed up for everyone in the field to follow.... despite it being very inconvenient and potentially hazardous.  It doesn't directly affect me since I'm an independent contractor, but it does hold me up since they can't finish their job and submit the reports in a timely fashion for me to do mine.

Def

[Mercury]

Man, i feel your pain def.  People in the office here at work make stupid policies all the time, and have no idea how they affect the people executing them.

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[jerseydevil]

Man, i feel your pain def.  People in the office here at work make stupid policies all the time, and have no idea how they affect the people executing them.

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I'm lucky in that regard.  Our "office staff" is whoever can break away from the sales floor at a given time to get some work done.  With only five full-time employees including the owner, I don't have to deal with chickensmurf little nonsense things.

[Grant Lamontagne]

I take it you aren't part of a chain or franchise? If not you are lucky, although you will still end up with stupid government hoops to jump through from time to time.

I deal in brand new cars from Europe.  Not cheap ones, at least not for the most part. I inventory them and survey for damages after discharge from a ship.  Six months ago they unilaterally passed a rule that everyone on the property was required to wear safety glasses. You know, to guard against the potential for getting a BMW in the eye.

This is inconvenient as they fog up in the winter and make it difficult to see minor damages on the cars, which is the part I'm happy about as it means my client (the shipping company) has to pay less damage claims.

Now they have determined that all supervisors (again, not my problem) need to wear hard hats, not for safety reasons but to make them "more visible."

This has the potential for causing additional damages to the cars, but it's also likely at some point that some idiot is going to wonder why a supervisor's head is more valuable than theirs and the union will push for everyone to wear hard hats.  Incredibly stupid.

There's more, but it takes more explaining....

Def

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[Aloha]

I'm a solo self employed mut myself but I still have cal osha, city, state, and other bureaucracy to contend with.  It never ceases to amaze me what "interesting" stuff those in charge come up with.   

[Gareth]

So, if it's not for any kind of safely reason, surely they could simply be wearing something like this:

[Gareth]

Or, given that it also gets a little chilly over there, how about this?

[derekmac]

The problem with those Gareth, is that they would actually make sense.  Grant's right too.  Soon some idiot in the union will cause an uproar, and work will probably stop until everyone of them gets a hardhat.  After they get them, they'll all hate wearing them, and bitch and complain about it.

We have a few dumb rules here at my work, but for the most part, it's pretty good.  Which is impressive for a billion dollar aerospace company.  One good thing is that everything needs to flow well, and keep flowing or they could get major penalties against them.  Things like wearing safety glasses all the time would not work here, so a rule like that would never be allowed.

[Grant Lamontagne]

I suggested the little multicolor beanies with the propellers on them but they'd already bought the plastic hats.

Def

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[derekmac]

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[Mercury]

I deal in brand new cars from Europe.  Not cheap ones, at least not for the most part. I inventory them and survey for damages after discharge from a ship.  Six months ago they unilaterally passed a rule that everyone on the property was required to wear safety glasses. You know, to guard against the potential for getting a BMW in the eye.


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We have our share of idiots here too.  One of our safety managers(we've had 3 different ones in the last year) decided since we use Jib cranes to lift 200-1000 lb parts into CNC machines about 3 to 4 feet off the ground, then we must wear hard hats, but only while the cranes are in use.  The parts never go above anyone's head, which would then require hard hats per OSHA, but we still have to wear them because the crane is deployed over head.  Nevermind the fact that one of our cranes is a custom box standalone overhead that we built and is ALWAYS deployed as it can't go anywhere, we don't have to wear hard hats under it unless there is a part suspended at our waist.  Retarded. 


The same moron, before she was fired, required all of us Machinists wear kevlar knit gloves around our machines so we don't get cut.  These are lathes, some with chucks as large as 30 inches, spinning at 500 to 1000 rpms.  For the record, every other shop I've ever worked in FORBIDS any gloves except latex gloves because, well, you know, the whole risk of death and all. 

[Lichtbote]

required all of us Machinists wear kevlar knit gloves around our machines

 

I´m wearing thin elastic fabric gloves most of my time on the machines (not an all day machinist, just sometimes fixing things on conventional machines for maintenance, when ordering a replacement part would take to much time - and i know the danger and am very carefull), but making it a rule is plain stupid.

Especially for all day machinists - getting to used to the work and therefor getting inattentive is a major danger. Combining that with a potential danger like gloves, long wide clothing, ..... 

[Syph007]

required all of us Machinists wear kevlar knit gloves around our machines

 

I´m wearing thin elastic fabric gloves most of my time on the machines (not an all day machinist, just sometimes fixing things on conventional machines for maintenance, when ordering a replacement part would take to much time - and i know the danger and am very carefull), but making it a rule is plain stupid.

Especially for all day machinists - getting to used to the work and therefor getting inattentive is a major danger. Combining that with a potential danger like gloves, long wide clothing, ..... 

I wore work gloves once while using my drill press and almost tore off a finger. Luckily the drive belt started  to slip.  Now i wear nitryl gloves as they are great for extra grip on small parts and they juat tear away harmlesslessly if something catches them.

[AimlessWanderer]

I've come across too many accidents involving gloves and rotating tools. A milling machine and a bandsaw spring to mind one guy only lost a finger tip, the other lost one and a half fingers and lost mobility from a third. "In-running nips" on rollers are another serious hazard where gloves should be avoided at all costs. I know a guy who only has his thumb and little finger left as the rest were crushed

As for hard hats, I've only come across four notably head injuries. One of which was actually caused by a swinging crane pendant, and so a hard hat may have actually helped. The other three were all impacts from below and so a hard hat would have been of no use.

One was a two leg chain sling with only one leg being used, The spare leg hadn't been stowed and got snagged during the lift, The hook eventually broke free and whipped into the guy's head, fracturing his skull. The second was removing the cover plate of a roller from a heavy duty lathe roller steady. He was tapping it a wedge to prise the cover plate off, and it flipped up and lacerated the guys brow. The last one was a guy who absent mindely only removed 5 of 6 retaining bolts which were holding a large top clamp in position. The remaining bolt was not match for the 10 tonne crane, and when it went "ping", the guy got a good knock on the head (it's unknown what part actually hit him). Thankfully no fracture on this occasion, but it could have been a lot worse and again a hart hat would not have afforded any real protection.

The magic phrase in Health & Safety is to do whatever is "reasonable practicable". Unfortunately there are too many people in a H&S role who do not have a working appreciation for the environments and processes in play, and are making text book decisions in order to make their mark and validate their existance, but they are totally unable to understand the consequences (positive or negative, commercial or practical) of their decisions. A few times I have had to tackle scenarios where a mandate has been made that a certain "improvement" has to be implemented, and I have had to intervene and produce documentation to explain why they are clueless smurfwits, that they should go and self-procreate with immediate effect, and stop trying to kill the organisation (engineering and otherwise) and it's employees/vulnerable others

[jerseydevil]

I had a paint shaker break my hand about two years ago, that wasn't much fun.   Not much safety gear worn in the paint business on the retail side.  I don't even bother with gloves except when dealing with several specific products.  As for fumes, there's a saying - The higher you get from it, the better it will do the job.

[SteveC]

Let's not forget all the pretty faces in here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-lSboOeX78&feature=user

Def

This is worth a bump just for the video 

[Grant Lamontagne]

I miss the gay musketeer look sometimes!   

I also miss a bunch of the guys that aren't around too much- Ben, Bob, Mike and Inky were such huge players in the early days.  Luckily the other Mike is still around, although his comments about being in retail are very outdated.

I had originally made that ad to burn onto some business card sized CD's to hand out at SHOT.

Inky sent me a number of videos as well, most of which were just screwing around.  One will have you laughing so hard milk will spray out of your nose, even if you haven't drank milk in the last 48 hours....  It's not family friendly in the least.  I may post it some time....

Def