new section on main site...

rockyman500 · **on:** April 04, 2009, 09:18:27 PM

Does anyone else think we need a Bear and Son section on the main site?

american lockpicker · **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2009, 09:25:51 PM

Yes!!!!

rockyman500 · **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2009, 09:27:18 PM

I find it interesting that Victorinox and Wenger both have there own section but only 2 multitools, while the "Miscellaneous Tools" section has about 4 Bear tools...

Nikos · **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2009, 09:30:22 PM

That should read "but only 2 plier-based multitools"...

rockyman500 · **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2009, 09:32:01 PM

Quote from: noth on April 04, 2009, 09:30:22 PM

That should read "but only 2 plier-based multitools"...

same with Victorinox and Wenger...but they get their own section...

Nikos · **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2009, 09:38:16 PM

No objection to a Bear forum section.

However, slapping that "only 2 multitools" to the Swiss is totally wrong, given that SAKs are way more multifunctional and pocketable than most of the competition, and people keep talking about the fit and finish of "the 2" and SAKs alike...

rockyman500 · **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2009, 09:43:42 PM

Quote from: noth on April 04, 2009, 09:38:16 PM

No objection to a Bear forum section. However, slapping that "only 2 multitools" to the Swiss is totally wrong, given that SAKs are way more multifunctional and pocketable than most of the competition, and people keep talking about the fit and finish of "the 2" and SAKs alike...

I'm talking MTs here, not SAKs...

Well, I was talking about on multitool.org, a new review section for them...but a forum would be great...I know lockpicker wanted one a while back...

Gareth · **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2009, 11:20:58 PM

I have no objection to a Bear forum but I'd like to say that the Swiss have a lot more than two plier based multi's though, off the top of my head you have; Swiss tool, Spirit, mini-grip, grip, Rangers, Auto Tool etc. I also not sure that you can say that Multi-tools have to be plier based and so in that case Vic and Wenger produce 100's of multi's.

rockyman500 · **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2009, 11:24:29 PM

Quote from: Gareth UK on April 04, 2009, 11:20:58 PM

I have no objection to a Bear forum but I'd like to say that the Swiss have a lot more than two plier based multi's though, off the top of my head you have; Swiss tool, Spirit, mini-grip, grip, Rangers, Auto Tool etc. I also not sure that you can say that Multi-tools have to be plier based and so in that case Vic and Wenger produce 100's of multi's.

plier-based as in the tools are built around it, not having those really small folding pliers

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2009, 11:54:51 PM

Well, if you want to be technical about it, I can think of about eight different tools from Victorinox off the top of my head. There are three different SwissTool variants, three different Spirit variants, the SportRatchet and AutoTool. Wenger has several variants of the PocketGrip and SwissGrip, and a whole series of new Rangers with pliers or scissors. Just because we don't have reviews of them all up doesn't mean their range is limited.

We could consider an addition to the main site for Bear, but few folks know them as Bear tools. Most folks know them as Crescent, Hard Hat or one of the many other names they were sold under.

Def

AndyTiedye · **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2009, 11:56:53 PM

The Alinghi has bigger pliers than some "pliers-based" multitools.

The scissors on the NewRanger 172 put most scissors-based multitools to shame.

None of which takes anything away from the argument for having a Bear forum.

The pliers-based multitools that Victorinox sells utilize Bear patents.
The connection between the two is certainly of interest to MT enthusiasts.
I would be in favor of a Bear forum.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #11 on:** April 04, 2009, 11:58:34 PM

I think the suggestion is for a Bear section on the main site, not a Bear forum....

Def

american lockpicker · **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:02:51 AM

What if we expand the Swiss forum to include Bear and Son I seem to remember it being Swiss owned.

rockyman500 · **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:03:37 AM

Quote from: Defender on April 04, 2009, 11:58:34 PM

I think the suggestion is for a Bear section on the main site, not a Bear forum....

Def

both would be nice...

Benner · **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:04:48 AM

A Bear forum (as discussed before) IMO wouldn't see anywhere near enough traffic to make it worth while.

I don't see what is wrong with them being discussed in the general section TBH?

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:07:48 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on April 05, 2009, 12:02:51 AM

What if we expand the Swiss forum to include Bear and Son I seem to remember it being Swiss owned.

Funny, I would have thought you of all people would have championed the fact that an American company managed to throw off the shackles of oppressive European ownership and continue once again to manufacture tools in the US.

Def

rockyman500 · **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:08:07 AM

Quote from: Benner on April 05, 2009, 12:04:48 AM

A Bear forum (as discussed before) IMO wouldn't see anywhere near enough traffic to make it worth while.

I don't see what is wrong with them being discussed in the general section TBH?

It really is a pain to always have to search for an article if you want to read about Bears...a forum would make it more organized IMO

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:10:23 AM

I have to agree with Ben about a Bear Forum... not enough discussion about it to warrant one, at least not at this point. And, the search function on this site works better than most, so it shouldn't be too hard to find any info on them.

Def

rockyman500 · **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:12:11 AM

the rescue tool forum has 7 threads and its still there...I know its new and all, but I think the Bear would have about as much as it...

american lockpicker · **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:18:58 AM

Quote from: Defender on April 05, 2009, 12:07:48 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on April 05, 2009, 12:02:51 AM
What if we expand the Swiss forum to include Bear and Son I seem to remember it being Swiss owned.

Funny, I would have thought you of all people would have championed the fact that an American company managed to throw off the shackles of oppressive European ownership and continue once again to manufacture tools in the US.

Def

I could care less who owns it as long as its made in the USA. I would even buy a product from a Chinese owned company if the product was made here.

rockyman500 · **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:21:52 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on April 05, 2009, 12:18:58 AM

Quote from: Defender on April 05, 2009, 12:07:48 AM
Quote from: american lockpicker on April 05, 2009, 12:02:51 AM
What if we expand the Swiss forum to include Bear and Son I seem to remember it being Swiss owned.

Funny, I would have thought you of all people would have championed the fact that an American company managed to throw off the shackles of oppressive European ownership and continue once again to manufacture tools in the US.

Def

I could care less who owns it as long as its made in the USA. I would even buy a product from a Chinese owned company if the product was made here.

too bad its always the other way around...

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #21 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:55:06 AM

Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 12:12:11 AM

the rescue tool forum has 7 threads and its still there...I know its new and all, but I think the Bear would have about as much as it...

I doubt that would be true- there are some serious rescue tool collector/users here, but I don't know of anyone that specializes in Bear.

Def

american lockpicker · **Reply #22 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:56:18 AM

I did for a while.

rockyman500 · **Reply #23 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:57:25 AM

Bears would get more attention if there was a forum...

american lockpicker · **Reply #24 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:58:34 AM

Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 12:57:25 AM

Bears would get more attention if there was a forum...

+1

Benner · **Reply #25 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:58:40 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on April 05, 2009, 12:56:18 AM

I did for a while.

"for a while"... that's the prob.

CRKT would be far more popular IMO so IF there was a need to add a new forum (I don't believe there is) surely they would be next in the queue and not Bear.

rockyman500 · **Reply #26 on:** April 05, 2009, 01:03:00 AM

we need a new forum for each brand other than the big 4

Benner · **Reply #27 on:** April 05, 2009, 01:05:44 AM

Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 01:03:00 AM

we need a new forum for each brand other than the big 4

Seems a bit overkill to me.

The way I see it, Def has one of the best (if not THE best) forum around so he's a guy who knows what he's doing.

rockyman500 · **Reply #28 on:** April 05, 2009, 01:07:30 AM

well the only time you ever really hear about Bears is in underrated threads...personally, I think they would get more of the attention they deserve if there was a forum...

Benner · **Reply #29 on:** April 05, 2009, 01:08:50 AM

Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 01:07:30 AM

well the only time you ever really hear about Bears is in underrated threads...personally, I think they would get more of the attention they deserve if there was a forum...

Maybe there is a reason they are underrated in the first place.

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