Was removing my crankset from my bike. I pushed the pliers into the middle lockring of the the left crank arm, clamp it and twisted, snap, one broken skeletool. Was a little disappointing that it broke so easily, that said, it's only a skeletool, but still, but the quick reply back from LM makes up a little for it.Without a EDC now
Broke my skeletool while working on my mountain bike this weekend.(Image removed from quote.)Mailed Leatherman this morning, and got a reply back within 20 min saying I should post it to them and they will fix it forme under warranty. Awesome! excellent service being one of the reasons I bought a Leatherman. Anyone they said in their emailwhile they are fixing it, they can do any other work on the skeletool for me as well, was wondering anyone got any ideas for possible modsor service to the tool that I might want.
Quote from: daemonza on May 18, 2009, 08:18:34 AMWas removing my crankset from my bike. I pushed the pliers into the middle lockring of the the left crank arm, clamp it and twisted, snap, one broken skeletool. Was a little disappointing that it broke so easily, that said, it's only a skeletool, but still, but the quick reply back from LM makes up a little for it.Without a EDC now Never twist a multitool plier like that. Actually any plier is weak in that regard, but especially multitool since stainless steel isn't as tough as tool steel and the jaws tend to be a lot thinner.
Quote from: jzmtl on May 18, 2009, 08:28:23 AMQuote from: daemonza on May 18, 2009, 08:18:34 AMWas removing my crankset from my bike. I pushed the pliers into the middle lockring of the the left crank arm, clamp it and twisted, snap, one broken skeletool. Was a little disappointing that it broke so easily, that said, it's only a skeletool, but still, but the quick reply back from LM makes up a little for it.Without a EDC now Never twist a multitool plier like that. Actually any plier is weak in that regard, but especially multitool since stainless steel isn't as tough as tool steel and the jaws tend to be a lot thinner.Hmm....A twisting action is VERY common for me when using a pliers (pulling out construction staples, snapping off nails, twisting wire). IMO, pliers design should take into account torque across the jaw.
Pretty much the same thing I am thinking. If I cannot twist, then 90% of the time using pliers will be impossible for me then.
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on May 18, 2009, 02:31:45 PMQuote from: jzmtl on May 18, 2009, 08:28:23 AMQuote from: daemonza on May 18, 2009, 08:18:34 AMWas removing my crankset from my bike. I pushed the pliers into the middle lockring of the the left crank arm, clamp it and twisted, snap, one broken skeletool. Was a little disappointing that it broke so easily, that said, it's only a skeletool, but still, but the quick reply back from LM makes up a little for it.Without a EDC now Never twist a multitool plier like that. Actually any plier is weak in that regard, but especially multitool since stainless steel isn't as tough as tool steel and the jaws tend to be a lot thinner.Hmm....A twisting action is VERY common for me when using a pliers (pulling out construction staples, snapping off nails, twisting wire). IMO, pliers design should take into account torque across the jaw. Pretty much the same thing I am thinking. If I cannot twist, then 90% of the time using pliers will be impossible for me then.
My thoughts exactly. I suppose if LM is willing to replace them, then you probably didn't use them outside of their intended purpose. Otherwise LM could just put it down to misuse and say "tough"
I'm sure they do as best as they can, but look at the thickness of the jaw of say surge, the biggest leatherman makes, and compare with even a medium sized needle nose piler, it's still a lot thinner. Coupled with weaker material, there is so much you can do with it.
Quote from: silentio on May 18, 2009, 05:39:53 PMMy thoughts exactly. I suppose if LM is willing to replace them, then you probably didn't use them outside of their intended purpose. Otherwise LM could just put it down to misuse and say "tough"They do replace a lot of stuff that's purely user error/abuse.
I am of the opinion that I should use a multi tool with common sense eg: lighter tasks unless no other choice is available. A reminder even the big 'un's can be pressed too hard even though in this case I am pretty sure it was a bad cast. Pst or Surge if the job is cutting heavy stuff I will go to the tool box for my main cutters and not risk breaking an expensive tool.
twisting antenna wire yes.
how's that saying go... once bitten... actually I am not scared to use a multi but am cautious and realize the limitations of one.
I have the powerlocks but have not tried the same wire/twist.
I'm not saying it is, just that you can't use what Leatherman warranty as guide for what's intended purpose for the tool. Like I said earlier, leatherman's (and other brands') plier strength is limited by both material and size, you can't realistically expect it to be as strong as a regular pliers and perform as such. As a user it's necessary to keep that in mind unless you enjoy send it back all the time.
Or a layered plier Schrade.
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