If only the Juice series had a pocket clip, oh wait...

Mr. Whippy · **on:** August 16, 2009, 03:15:16 AM

Starting with Clipdraw from FelineVet, I modified the backing plate by grinding off a bit of it. Trimmed the adhesive strip too. It seems to be holding extremely well.

I'm

Gonna start carrying it to work on Monday.

Poncho65 · **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2009, 03:48:41 AM

Very cool Mr. W

Now I need to get 1 for a Kf4

ecfiffer · **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2009, 04:06:41 AM

looks good bro!

MultiMat · **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2009, 04:29:03 AM

Cool whipper man

.Be very interesting to see if reducing the sticking surface area impacts on the clip staying put. Fingers crossed mate

jzmtl · **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2009, 05:01:03 AM

Including the baseplate and adhesive strip, how tall does the clip protrude from tool surface?

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2009, 05:09:36 AM

Quote from: jzmtl on August 16, 2009, 05:01:03 AM

Including the baseplate and adhesive strip, how tall does the clip protrude from tool surface?

1 cm at the thickest part of the clip bend.

jzmtl · **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2009, 05:44:58 AM

Dang that's a lot of bulk, especially if it's not clipped.

max6166 · **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2009, 06:55:29 AM

Quote from: jzmtl on August 16, 2009, 05:44:58 AM

Dang that's a lot of bulk, especially if it's not clipped.

Yes, it looks like it added about 2 layers in width to the Juice.

Would it be possible to file the base plate down and flatten out the clip a bit?

It's definitely a cool mod though!

prime77 · **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:18:10 AM

Looks great. Let us know how well you like it after some pocket time.

AHB · **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:29:36 AM

Quote from: prime77 on August 16, 2009, 07:18:10 AM

Looks great. Let us know how well you like it after some pocket time.

What he said..

Great idea..

MultiMat · **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:33:44 AM

Quote from: jzmtl on August 16, 2009, 05:44:58 AM

Dang that's a lot of bulk, especially if it's not clipped.

No reason you could not use a smaller/thinner pocket clip & mod the holes to match the base plate

. Depending on how well the cut down base plate holds up of course

Tinnie · **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:52:32 AM

Awesome mod!

I wonder how much you could do with that little clipdraw device? has anyone contacted the guys who made them to perhaps produce a smaller version? I wonder if I can whack one of these on a OHT!

jzmtl · **Reply #12 on:** August 16, 2009, 08:10:01 AM

Quote from: MultiMat on August 16, 2009, 07:33:44 AM

Quote from: jzmtl on August 16, 2009, 05:44:58 AM
Dang that's a lot of bulk, especially if it's not clipped.

No reason you could not use a smaller/thinner pocket clip & mod the holes to match the base plate . Depending on how well the cut down base plate holds up of course

Hardened stainless steel is a major pain in the butt to drill.

Mike 56 · **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2009, 08:54:40 AM

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #14 on:** August 16, 2009, 01:14:58 PM

Quote from: max6166 on August 16, 2009, 06:55:29 AM

Quote from: jzmtl on August 16, 2009, 05:44:58 AM
Dang that's a lot of bulk, especially if it's not clipped.

Yes, it looks like it added about 2 layers in width to the Juice.

Would it be possible to file the base plate down and flatten out the clip a bit?

It's definitely a cool mod though!

It's not the tape or baseplate that adds thickness, it's the shape of the clip. It's on a CS4 and the clip is on the scale with the saw. In hand, it doesn't seem to be a problem, and of course the clip part is outside the pocket. I'll try it out for a week and see what I think

Shorty66 · **Reply #15 on:** August 16, 2009, 01:24:13 PM

Nice mod!
I would consider mounting it in another way, so that the tool doesn´t look out of the pocket too much.
In this configuration the tool wont slide completly into the pocket because it rests at the lower screw of the pocketclip. Same problem as with the skeletool.
The charge pocketclip is much nicer as the tool slides completly into the pocket as there are no screws to stop at.

I would consider making a pocketclip which uses the rivet as anchor and is bent in "u-shape".
I know, this drawing is crap. But it should give you a hint on what i mean.

And one more thing: Always put the pocketclip on the plier side of the tool. that way it wont open as you slide your hand in the pocket or through gravity.
This is one of the mayor flaws of th charge in my opinion.

Neil · **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2009, 03:41:08 PM

I see what your saying about taking the base plate over the rivet but I can't see how that can work with the ClipDraw system due to the screws holding the base and clip together

What have I missed?

Shorty66 · **Reply #17 on:** August 16, 2009, 04:44:22 PM

You might already have noticed that my english ist not the best.
Do you mean with "clip-draw system" the system which is used an the charge where the clip may be taken off the tool without opening any screws?
If its that, you are completely right. Its not possible to construct such a system the way i mentioned above.
I dont think that the clip is needed to be taken off often, though. Thats why i prefer the simpler screw-on solution.

If this doesnt answer your question, please explain it a bit more in detail.

Benner · **Reply #18 on:** August 16, 2009, 04:50:09 PM

Quote from: Shorty66 on August 16, 2009, 04:44:22 PM

You might already have noticed that my english ist not the best.
Do you mean with "clip-draw system" the system which is used an the charge where the clip may be taken off the tool without opening any screws?
If its that, you are completely right. Its not possible to construct such a system the way i mentioned above.
I dont think that the clip is needed to be taken off often, though. Thats why i prefer the simpler screw-on solution.

If this doesnt answer your question, please explain it a bit more in detail.

He was talking about the Clipdraw system as discussed in this thread.

Shorty66 · **Reply #19 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:09:17 PM

aw, i didn`t get it, what Mr.wippy actually did. I thought he made the clip imself and didnt get the fact it was just an adhesive clip.
I have to read more carefully next time.

max6166 · **Reply #20 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:43:36 PM

Quote from: Mr. Whippy on August 16, 2009, 01:14:58 PM

Quote from: max6166 on August 16, 2009, 06:55:29 AM
It's definitely a cool mod though!

It's not the tape or baseplate that adds thickness, it's the shape of the clip. It's on a CS4 and the clip is on the scale with the saw. In hand, it doesn't seem to be a problem, and of course the clip part is outside the pocket. I'll try it out for a week and see what I think

Don't get me wrong - I like it a lot! I was just "mentally tinkering" with it.

I was reading up on the Clipdraw and found the Combat Handguns review. Pretty impressive! I didn't realize you could remove it so easily too:

http://www.clipdraw.com/combat-handguns

Hmm, that 3M double-coated VHB tape looks very useful...

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #21 on:** August 16, 2009, 08:12:29 PM

Quote from: Neil on August 16, 2009, 03:41:08 PM

I see what your saying about taking the base plate over the rivet but I can't see how that can work with the ClipDraw system due to the screws holding the base and clip together

What have I missed?

It would have levered the baseplate off since the rivet is as thick as the tape.

Neil · **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2009, 12:45:42 AM

Quote from: Shorty66 on August 16, 2009, 07:09:17 PM

aw, i didn`t get it, what Mr.wippy actually did. I thought he made the clip imself and didnt get the fact it was just an adhesive clip.
I have to read more carefully next time.

So I'm not going more insane

There's a relief.. I think

I do agree though that pocket clips in general should ride higher so the tools can sink a little lower

Benner · **Reply #23 on:** August 17, 2009, 12:56:54 AM

Quote from: Neil on August 17, 2009, 12:45:42 AM

Quote from: Shorty66 on August 16, 2009, 07:09:17 PM
aw, i didn`t get it, what Mr.wippy actually did. I thought he made the clip imself and didnt get the fact it was just an adhesive clip.
I have to read more carefully next time.

So I'm not going more insane There's a relief.. I think

I do agree though that pocket clips in general should ride higher so the tools can sink a little lower

+1 to that.

The 2 best clips I have come across are that on the Leatherman Wave and Charge and the one on the SOG Flash series. Both are real discrete and keep a lot of the tool deeper in the pocket.

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #24 on:** August 17, 2009, 05:38:24 AM

Quote from: Benner on August 17, 2009, 12:56:54 AM

Quote from: Neil on August 17, 2009, 12:45:42 AM
Quote from: Shorty66 on August 16, 2009, 07:09:17 PM
aw, i didn`t get it, what Mr.wippy actually did. I thought he made the clip imself and didnt get the fact it was just an adhesive clip.
I have to read more carefully next time.

So I'm not going more insane There's a relief.. I think

I do agree though that pocket clips in general should ride higher so the tools can sink a little lower

+1 to that. The 2 best clips I have come across are that on the Leatherman Wave and Charge and the one on the SOG Flash series. Both are real discrete and keep a lot of the tool deeper in the pocket.

Agree with that. Unfortunately, not an option on the Juice series (well, not easily).

silentio · **Reply #25 on:** August 17, 2009, 05:13:38 PM

The rivet being in the way was exactly the problem I faced with my Spirit X Clipdraw mod. In the end, I removed it and simply put the adhesive over the rivet. I don't have a Juice, so I don't know how much the rivet protrudes. But if it is similar to the Spirit's, the tape will cover it fine.

First attempt

What it currently looks like

Benner · **Reply #26 on:** August 17, 2009, 07:40:50 PM

It certainly looks good.

Shorty66 · **Reply #27 on:** August 17, 2009, 09:38:45 PM

How did you remove the rivet without disassembling the tool?
Did you just grind down the protrusion? I think thats not a that good idea...
Perhaps you could grind the bottomplate of the pocket clip so that the rivet fits into the grind out.
That way you wouldn`t damage your tool.

wes_robinson · **Reply #28 on:** August 17, 2009, 10:41:01 PM

i like shorty66's idea, curious has anyone made a perminate clip for a charge using the pivot screws.

Woz · **Reply #29 on:** August 17, 2009, 10:44:45 PM

Dudes, does anyone have experience on how long the clip will hold on to EDC duty? I guess the adhesive tape will have to be replaced from time to time, or is it that tough? I can not believe that an adhesive strip can fix a clip for longer EDC duty?

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