Help I can't decide

[jock1]

Hi Folks
I am new to this forum and would be grateful for advice I have finally made up my mind that I want a S.A.K for e.d.c and a swiss tool for camping, trips out basically as a  portable toll box .
The S.A.K would have to cover most eventuallities I most often need a decent blade, scissors, can /bottle opener ,a range of screwdrivers, pliers and the odd time a file/hack saw and wood saw
The swiss tool is my choice 'cause it is nearly bomb proof and has a decent range of tools so I am leaning toward the original swiss tool with an added bit kit to expand the screwdriver options

[supratentorial]

Hi Folks
...I most often need a decent blade, scissors... I am leaning toward the original swiss tool...

The original SwissTool lacks scissors so you may want to consider the SwissTool X (my favorite of the SwissTools) or the SwissTool RS.  The SwissTool X has a file and the SwissTool RS has a rescue blade.

[Grant Lamontagne]

If you get a SwissTool RS or X then you can have the scissors there, which means you may not need them in your SAK.  If that's the case, strongly consider the One Handed Trekker model, which will give you the benefit of a one handed opening, locking blade.

Of course, the SwissTool X and RS both seem to cover all the bases you have listed, so you may not even need a SAK to go along with it.  Most SAKs will just be a series of redundant tools to the SwissTool.  Can openers, scissors etc can be found on most models.  The "decent blade" is what made me think of the OHT, but that's subjective.  A Farmer or Soldier model could be considered a decent blade as well, depending on your needs.

I'd suggest poking around www.sosakonline.com for different SAK ideas.  There are literally hundreds of variations and combinations available, and perhaps the best way to start finding the "right" one for you would be to decide on a definition of a "decent" blade for you.

Def

[665ae]

Just remember the Multitool.org official motto...

"When in doubt... buy both!"

[Grant Lamontagne]

Well then Jock is in trouble because there's about 5 or six options mentioned here!   

Def

[Viper]

Personally, I think one of the larger CyberTool models is best. The model 41 includes a bottle opener, can opener, pliers, wood saw, file/hacksaw, and scizzors.

It also, of course has a good blade, but the main reason, however, is the screwdriver/bit set, it gives you 8 different drivers.

It's not as heavy duty as the SwissTools, but it has everything you said you want in a smaller package than a SwissTool with a bit set.

I seem to be one of the only people on this site that prefers the standard Swiss Army knives to the SwissTools.

[Grant Lamontagne]

I can't say that I prefer one to the other... after all, I own a multitool site and I own a SAK site!  In reality, they are different tools, and you really can't compare them directly.  I find more than anything, they compliment eachother, which was Tim Leatherman's original concept.  He originally wanted to develop a tool to use with a SAK when you didn't have access to regular tools, such as when you were broken down at the side of the highway.

Plus, it's hard to turn a screw when you have nothing to hold the nut on the other side, so you really do need one of each!

Def

[Anthony]

Plus, it's hard to turn a screw when you have nothing to hold the nut on the other side, so you really do need one of each!

Def

Yup, I carry a plier based multi and a "bigger" SAK with heavier screwdriver blades.  The Soldier has those heavier drivers and are harder to snap shut than on a smaller model like my Sportsman.  It add greatly to the usability of both tools when combined

jock1:I most often need a decent blade, scissors, can /bottle opener ,a range of screwdrivers, pliers and the odd time a file/hack saw and wood saw

The One Handed Trekker excels at all those except the scissors and file which would be on your Swisstool (I think there's a file on that), but the main blade and wood saw are great...and it has three drivers including an actual Phillips head (and an awl, toothpick, tweexers..)

The Locksmith SAK has a nice looking file, although I've never used one.

[jock1]

Thanks for the advice I think I will get the S.A.K first as it's one of the few things you can legally make a case for carrying in Scotland as long as the blade doesn't lock and is under three inches .The handyman model seems to fit the bill but I want a cybertool (more bits to play with) 

[Dunc]

Hello jock and welcome to the forums  . The std Swisstool although it doesnt have scissors it does have an effective serrated blade as well as a plain blade . I find a Vic Climber pairs rather well with a std Swisstool .
Dunc

[znapschatz]

Hi Folks
...I most often need a decent blade, scissors... I am leaning toward the original swiss tool...

The original SwissTool lacks scissors so you may want to consider the SwissTool X (my favorite of the SwissTools) or the SwissTool RS.  The SwissTool X has a file and the SwissTool RS has a rescue blade.

But then you lose the serrated blade, which can very useful in an outdoor environment.  Since you are considering pairing it with a SAK, a good choice would be the original SwissTool and a SAK model with scissors.  That way, you can have it all.  IMHO, Vic got it right first time out.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Thanks for the advice I think I will get the S.A.K first as it's one of the few things you can legally make a case for carrying in Scotland as long as the blade doesn't lock and is under three inches .The handyman model seems to fit the bill but I want a cybertool (more bits to play with) 

i try to stay legal wherever possible too, that said i,ve never had any problems carrying my swisstool X (very highly reccommended ) I think the boys and girls in blue tend to recognise multi tools as just that TOOLS.

with the 91mm saks your always going to be legal and sheeple friendly, a 108mm or 111mm or oht your going to have to have a reason :angry:

for that reason i only carry a modded 108 or a farmer/91mm.

so for the long post :grin: