locks,do we need them on edc?

[LatinoHeat]

Others.  What else could others mean in that particular sentence?  I mean, it couldn't POSSIBLY be anything else.  You can dig for further meaning, but others is self explanitory in that situation.  I know it helps with a reply to tear a post apart, but this time..... not so much.  If I had put people, you would have said "What people?"  If I had put adults, whites, blacks, latinos, martians, etc, you would have questioned it.
Simple sentence.  Simple messege.  Will not elaborate because it can't be simplified more then it is.

Heh, don't worry, it was a semantics thing, and it was enough of a passing fancy not to try to say it again 

LOL.  Yeah, TAKE THAT!!   

[sappyg]

LatinoHeat.... here we are posing the merit of which is right... nature verses nurture. likely the answer is all of the above  
yet, if we concede that intelligence is potential then we would could reason that someone with the genetic predisposition to have potential heart diseas is intelligent. i.e, this person would be the most intelligent heart attack with the most potential to be a heart attack of all. that same person could get ran over by a bus b/c they are stupid way before they realised their true potential.
the OP is really trying to justify UK laws. unless i'm proven wrong these are the laws the UK republic have chosen. they have the right to change them. possibly, the question is do they have the potential? i don't know.
i do know that sometimes people do stupid things and no matter what you do you can't stop it. you have to let them be stupid b/c that is their potential. if i have a sharp knife i might cut myself. if i have a locking blade knife i might cut... myself? i don't get it but then i'm a couple of sandwitches shy of a picnic.      

[LatinoHeat]

LatinoHeat.... here we are posing the merit of which is right... nature verses nurture. likely the answer is all of the above  
yet, if we concede that intelligence is potential then we would could reason that someone with the genetic predisposition to have potential heart diseas is intelligent. i.e, this person would be the most intelligent heart attack with the most potential to be a heart attack of all. that same person could get ran over by a bus b/c they are stupid way before they realised their true potential.
the OP is really trying to justify UK laws. unless i'm proven wrong these are the laws the UK republic have chosen. they have the right to change them. possibly, the question is do they have the potential? i don't know.
i do know that sometimes people do stupid things and no matter what you do you can't stop it. you have to let them be stupid b/c that is their potential. if i have a sharp knife i might cut myself. if i have a locking blade knife i might cut... myself? i don't get it but then i'm a couple of sandwitches shy of a picnic.      

LOL.
What he said.
I mean, what you said.
I mean.... yeah.

[Sea Monster]

i'm a couple of sandwitches shy of a picnic.

but all full up for Snow Wizards? 

I was trying to get a picture of some bicycle riding, truncheon wielding pommy bobbies, but I typed "oi  oi oi" and ended up with naked harry potter.

This is not an auspicious start to the day.

[sappyg]

MOVING RIGHT ALONG:
Okay, so of you Pro-Lockers out there, where's the line between "Locks are good!" & "Carrying a Fixed blade"? (laws notwithstanding)

laws not withstanding then i see no line between the two. each suited to their needs and use. it is up to the individual to define needs and use.

[Freudian Frog]

Simple answer - no. If your EDC requires locks yer full of crap, unless you happen to be a hermit who lives alone in the forest.

As for saftey, any buffoon with a knife should know what safe cutting practices are (and if you actually practice them, guess what, you won't get cut!), and for anyone with a job that requires it work tools are excused as long as you're not actually trying to EDC it...

Now, it's perfectly nice to play it safe. In my opinion locks shouldn't be banned, however, perhaps one-hand opening knives? Which I suspect is the real problem... but I think a lot of laws are just so they can stack up charges against a person who is intending to do harm rather than restrict your rights. There just happens to be lots of crooked cops...

[Benner]

Simple answer - no. If your EDC requires locks yer full of crap, unless you happen to be a hermit who lives alone in the forest.

As for saftey, any buffoon with a knife should know what safe cutting practices are (and if you actually practice them, guess what, you won't get cut!), and for anyone with a job that requires it work tools are excused as long as you're not actually trying to EDC it...

Now, it's perfectly nice to play it safe. In my opinion locks shouldn't be banned, however, perhaps one-hand opening knives? Which I suspect is the real problem... but I think a lot of laws are just so they can stack up charges against a person who is intending to do harm rather than restrict your rights. There just happens to be lots of crooked cops...

But why OH knives?!?  Bottom line is this, it's not the friggin tool/gun that's the issue it's the muppet that is using it.

[GraysonK]

Simple answer - no. If your EDC requires locks yer full of crap, unless you happen to be a hermit who lives alone in the forest.

As for saftey, any buffoon with a knife should know what safe cutting practices are (and if you actually practice them, guess what, you won't get cut!), and for anyone with a job that requires it work tools are excused as long as you're not actually trying to EDC it...

Now, it's perfectly nice to play it safe. In my opinion locks shouldn't be banned, however, perhaps one-hand opening knives? Which I suspect is the real problem... but I think a lot of laws are just so they can stack up charges against a person who is intending to do harm rather than restrict your rights. There just happens to be lots of crooked cops...

But why OH knives?!?  Bottom line is this, it's not the friggin tool/gun that's the issue it's the muppet that is using it.

Thank you, Ben! 

[Freudian Frog]

Simple answer - no. If your EDC requires locks yer full of crap, unless you happen to be a hermit who lives alone in the forest.

As for saftey, any buffoon with a knife should know what safe cutting practices are (and if you actually practice them, guess what, you won't get cut!), and for anyone with a job that requires it work tools are excused as long as you're not actually trying to EDC it...

Now, it's perfectly nice to play it safe. In my opinion locks shouldn't be banned, however, perhaps one-hand opening knives? Which I suspect is the real problem... but I think a lot of laws are just so they can stack up charges against a person who is intending to do harm rather than restrict your rights. There just happens to be lots of crooked cops...

But why OH knives?!?  Bottom line is this, it's not the friggin tool/gun that's the issue it's the muppet that is using it.

I'm not saying they should, just that it'd make more sense. Thugs probably think they need fast deploying knives don't they? Not that any of it makes sense anyway... as grubby people can and will get their hands on anything legal or illegal.

[John]

One point to bear in mind is: a lock is only as good as the type of lock used and above all the quality of the mechanism used,in fact it's my opinion that a cheap linear lock can be more dangerous to use than a slippy,

you tend to drop your guard when using lock knives thinking it's totally safe in fact it can cause more harm why? well you can get complacent when using them and excerpt more force when stabbing,cutting slicing,you are safe until that cheap lock on the knife fails   here's the thing if it should fail while while say pushing the knife through some leather or other tough material then say good bye to one,two or more fingers  

I'm not assuming anyone here has any cheap lock knives WAIT! I do but I'm completely safe because I know of the weaknesses  

A good lock knife on the other hand "like sebenza and the likes" is in my opinion needed or should I say wanted as I live in the UK   after all the idea behind them is to be as good as a fixed blade but with the lower profile for EDC and here I'm not implying a good lock knife can ever be as strong as a good fixed blade knife  

Slip joint knifes have come back around had a sort of revival if you like due the the nonsensical knife laws in the UK and other parts of the world,again it's just my opinion a slippy can be used in the same way as a lock knife you just need to use caution and common sense "this should apply to all knives" and you will never cut yourself it happens I've seen more cuts in the work place from ppls using those snap off blade box cutters  

But to answer your question if I could EDC a good lock knife, then I would say it's needed and wanted   maybe we should ask,Do we need those cheap lock knives hell NO!  

But best advice is treat any knife with respect and at all times think knife safety!

[sappyg]

i'm a couple of sandwitches shy of a picnic.

but all full up for Snow Wizards? 
I was trying to get a picture of some bicycle riding, truncheon wielding pommy bobbies, but I typed "oi  oi oi" and ended up with naked harry potter.

please define the word pommy and oi....

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

i'm a couple of sandwitches shy of a picnic.

but all full up for Snow Wizards? 
I was trying to get a picture of some bicycle riding, truncheon wielding pommy bobbies, but I typed "oi  oi oi" and ended up with naked harry potter.

please define the word pommy and oi....

Well a pommie is one of us Brit's

And Oi, is our polite way of getting someones attention shortly before smacking them in the face

[John]

i'm a couple of sandwitches shy of a picnic.

but all full up for Snow Wizards? 
I was trying to get a picture of some bicycle riding, truncheon wielding pommy bobbies, but I typed "oi  oi oi" and ended up with naked harry potter.

please define the word pommy and oi....

Well a pommie is one of us Brit's

And Oi, is our polite way of getting someones attention shortly before smacking them in the face

Yeah like this 
Oi!   

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Exactly

[sappyg]

do we need locks on EDC?.... when i am at work the most common knife i see in use is those clipped locking knives that use those disposable blades. these guys would'nt edc them if they did'nt need them. the ppl. range from delivery drivers, plumbers, electricians, flooring contractors and the list goes on. i supsect this is the edc of choice b/c most, if not all, don't know how to sharpen a blade, they are cheap and easey to replace as well as conveinient OH openers. these things are so common that you can make the case that they are a needed edc item.
yes i know this is work related edc but the majority of the time if i'm not at work i'm at home. i usually empty my pockets when i walk in the door. i'm not saying everyone should edc one of those knives. i do not care for them personally. i am suggesting that they are what some consider the best edc gear for them. further that they are so commonly used that they are even necessary.
yes i know this is a work related scenario but, it is the case that as these tradesman go from job to job during the day (and night), that a locking OH blade is always on them.
moreover, i edc'd both a LM kick and a Vic spirit. i prefer the spirit for many reasons but one of those reasons is exactly b/c it has locks. one can always make the argument that they might fail but, they probably won't.
as far as safety and propper handling of knives. S happens. if you have never been cut then you are not using your knives. locking or not it's not if you get cut but when... it will happen    

[getahl]

I've always been of the opinion that locks aren't strictly necessary, but are nice to have around. Even though I know how to properly handle a knife, accidents can happen. I've accidentally closed a blade on a finger before, cut myself while whittling and opening packages at work, and I'm sure it will happen again. It's not a common occurrence, but it does happen.

The lack of a lock doesn't prevent me from carrying anything. I love my slippies and my SAKs. Wouldn't trade them for the world...or perhaps other knives  But, I carry what I want, law permitting (which is why I don't carry a fixed blade, but that's another story).

[Styerman]

They aren't strictly needed , but anything big enuff for heavy work should have a lock .

Chris

[P35]

not needed , but all the OHO knives that I own have them