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Rusty old wallet MT.

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Rusty old wallet MT.
on: September 06, 2009, 08:23:07 PM
Not as shiny as the one Mat has en route but look what I found at this morning's car boot sale..



Something else to add to my to do project pile :D

Anyone have any tips for cleaning up the leather?
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 08:28:20 PM
I know how to clean up rust, not leather.  :P

Is the key end suppose to fit into handle?


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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 08:31:03 PM
Neat! :)


Be careful cleaning up the metal. Its probably nickel plated, and will flake off if you're too aggressive with a buffing wheel.
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 08:33:18 PM
Yep the key end fits into the handle.  Hopefully anyway as I haven't tested any of them yet.

I think I'm going to end up with quite a mess patina however I clean the tools up :)

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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 08:35:00 PM
If it's unplated you can mix up some water and molasses to remove the rust.


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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #5 on: September 06, 2009, 08:43:23 PM
I'm quite a fan of electrolytic rust removal but I'll pick their poison after I've given them a good look over.

Its the pouch I'm most concerned about  :-\
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #6 on: September 06, 2009, 08:46:36 PM
I have little experience with leather but can't you just wash it, then oil/wax?


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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #7 on: September 06, 2009, 08:48:29 PM
Looks really interesting (and old).. :tu:  :D

Its the pouch I'm most concerned about  :-\
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 08:58:36 PM
I have little experience with leather but can't you just wash it, then oil/wax?

From past experience I've not been able to really bring it back life after washing.  Probably just doing it wrong.

Where are all the leather guys when I need them ;)
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #9 on: September 06, 2009, 09:00:20 PM
I have little experience with leather but can't you just wash it, then oil/wax?

From past experience I've not been able to really bring it back life after washing.  Probably just doing it wrong.

Where are all the leather guys when I need them ;)

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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #10 on: September 06, 2009, 09:15:56 PM
In the equestrian world, dried out old leather is treated thus:

1.  Lightly clean with a quality product (in the UK, I'd recommend Carr Day Martin) or glycerol soap.  Then, heavily apply conditioner and let it set for a day or so. Wipe down the leather and assess.  Apply more conditioner if needed and let set for another day or so (possibly in a sealed plastic bag).  Wipe again and assess.  The leather will soften up, but the thing to worry about is dry rot of the stitching.

Carr Day Martin products are excellent for saddle leather.  We prefer it to Lexol (another brand of cleaner and conditioner).


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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #11 on: September 06, 2009, 09:23:00 PM
Would this be a good idea?

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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #12 on: September 06, 2009, 09:38:23 PM
Exactly as Mr. Whippy stated in his post.

I would use neat’s-foot oil. Apply it sparingly. Remember, you are trying to impart the natural oils into the leather, not drown it. Too much oil and it will fall apart. Likewise, I am very partial to saddle soap to finish it all off.

The trick is to take your time and to rub the oils into the leather. That goes with the soap also.
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #13 on: September 06, 2009, 09:42:57 PM
Would this be a good idea?

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I've not used their leather oil.  We've rehab'ed a few really dried out saddles before using just conditioner and light cleaning.  Read the can instructions.  Usually, they tell how best to use the product.  If it's not for resuscitating leather (ie, if it's mostly for waterproofing), I'd try conditioner instead.


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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #14 on: September 06, 2009, 09:46:37 PM
Nice score Neil...

I agree with the other leather guys...a cleaning then conditioning.


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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #15 on: September 06, 2009, 10:01:40 PM
Nice score Neil mate :tu:
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #16 on: September 06, 2009, 11:11:38 PM
Well? Enough about the leather, where was the tool made? :ahhh
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #17 on: September 07, 2009, 12:29:22 AM
It has a DRGM number so German.  The company name appears to be Sabina  :think:  which means nothing to me.
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #18 on: September 07, 2009, 04:09:38 AM
It has a DRGM number so German.  The company name appears to be Sabina  :think:  which means nothing to me.

Its another name for Bontgen & Sabin, better known simply as Bonsa :)


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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #19 on: September 07, 2009, 10:27:22 AM
That makes more sense now, I've seen these kits on ebay with the Bonsa name :tu:  How old is that catalogue?  Just trying to get a feel for the age of this kit.
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #20 on: September 07, 2009, 11:44:37 AM
I've used Liberon Leather Cream on a few things.  Works quite well.

http://www.jpennyltd.co.uk/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=28&=SID
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #21 on: September 07, 2009, 11:51:01 AM
Nice set Neil  :tu: :tu:. Hope it cleans up well mate.

From the look of the rust , has Mike handled it  :think: :P :D :D

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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #22 on: September 07, 2009, 03:30:10 PM
I've used Liberon Leather Cream on a few things.  Works quite well.

http://www.jpennyltd.co.uk/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=28&=SID

Cheers for the link  :tu:

Nice set Neil  :tu: :tu:. Hope it cleans up well mate.

From the look of the rust , has Mike handled it  :think: :P :D :D

:D Looks that way ;)
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #23 on: September 07, 2009, 09:52:31 PM
Nice set Neil  :tu: :tu:. Hope it cleans up well mate.

From the look of the rust , has Mike handled it  :think: :P :D :D


Hehehe, good one! :D
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #24 on: September 07, 2009, 09:54:54 PM
That makes more sense now, I've seen these kits on ebay with the Bonsa name :tu:  How old is that catalogue?  Just trying to get a feel for the age of this kit.

No idea how old the catalog is. :-\ The little folding scissors pictured on the cover came out in the early 1900's, then disappeared at the start of WWII. So that narrows it down to a 40 year window. :-\
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Re: Rusty old wallet MT.
Reply #25 on: September 07, 2009, 10:12:20 PM
Nice set Neil  :tu: :tu:. Hope it cleans up well mate.

From the look of the rust , has Mike handled it  :think: :P :D :D
Nice :twak: :D
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