What are you bringing? Those freeze dried food are pretty neat, bring some for, and some water filter/purification tablets for back up.As for clothing, what about layers, bring something you can put on outside of your hiking cloth once you get to your destination.
Bring some chocolate bar too, just in case you need some energy dense food.
Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 19, 2009, 07:00:42 AMMaybe a you ought to get a mountain/expedition bike to carry the weight for you till you need to go off trail No bikes allowed.
Maybe a you ought to get a mountain/expedition bike to carry the weight for you till you need to go off trail
Quote from: J-sews on October 21, 2009, 03:41:35 AMQuote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 19, 2009, 07:00:42 AMMaybe a you ought to get a mountain/expedition bike to carry the weight for you till you need to go off trail No bikes allowed. But you'll have a gun, so they won't argue if you TELL them your taking your damn bike
Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 21, 2009, 05:02:51 AMQuote from: J-sews on October 21, 2009, 03:41:35 AMQuote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 19, 2009, 07:00:42 AMMaybe a you ought to get a mountain/expedition bike to carry the weight for you till you need to go off trail No bikes allowed. But you'll have a gun, so they won't argue if you TELL them your taking your damn bike You don't know these wilderness rangers. They'd take my gun, they'd take my bike, and worst of all, they'd take my hunting license!
mmm trail-mix! I've heard for a quick/easy/light snack some people carry those little "honey" packsyou get at fast food places (or you can buy them) and carry a few in a pocket for quick energy burst but healthy.
How big is your tent?
Do you have ducktape? PACK SOME DUCKTAPE!!!! Other than that I hope you have a great time. It sounds like a lot of fun. Good luck hunting.
Quote from: cgk on October 21, 2009, 05:31:19 AMHow big is your tent?It's a Eureka Apex that I got for my birthday (Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)Amazon link: CLICKYWhat do you more experienced campers think? Is it a good one?
The Flair was my second choice Mat. My first priority is survival but if by some unbelievable miracle I should happen to bag a deer, I'll just field dress it and string it up in a tree. (bringing along a little block & tackle pulley set for that just in case) With typical temps this time of year in the 40's F (5 C) it will keep just fine. It just needs to be high enough that the damn coyotes can't get at it. As regards slicing off a few chops for dinner, I'm thinking not. Leaving the hide on protects the meat underneath. Opening it up would allow air/insects/dirt to get inside while its hanging or later while being dragged to the boat or transported back home.
Quote from: J-sews on October 22, 2009, 01:48:26 AMThe Flair was my second choice Mat. My first priority is survival but if by some unbelievable miracle I should happen to bag a deer, I'll just field dress it and string it up in a tree. (bringing along a little block & tackle pulley set for that just in case) With typical temps this time of year in the 40's F (5 C) it will keep just fine. It just needs to be high enough that the damn coyotes can't get at it. As regards slicing off a few chops for dinner, I'm thinking not. Leaving the hide on protects the meat underneath. Opening it up would allow air/insects/dirt to get inside while its hanging or later while being dragged to the boat or transported back home. If this crappy weather holds, it should be plenty cold to keep. Your trip sounds fun but my only issue is a lack of fire. It is going to get pretty cold at at night and it would sure be nice to take the chill off.
Quote from: cgk on October 22, 2009, 04:44:44 AMQuote from: J-sews on October 22, 2009, 01:48:26 AMThe Flair was my second choice Mat. My first priority is survival but if by some unbelievable miracle I should happen to bag a deer, I'll just field dress it and string it up in a tree. (bringing along a little block & tackle pulley set for that just in case) With typical temps this time of year in the 40's F (5 C) it will keep just fine. It just needs to be high enough that the damn coyotes can't get at it. As regards slicing off a few chops for dinner, I'm thinking not. Leaving the hide on protects the meat underneath. Opening it up would allow air/insects/dirt to get inside while its hanging or later while being dragged to the boat or transported back home. If this crappy weather holds, it should be plenty cold to keep. Your trip sounds fun but my only issue is a lack of fire. It is going to get pretty cold at at night and it would sure be nice to take the chill off. I've been on many backpacking trips in late autumn, winter, and early spring where I never built a single fire.Relying on fire for warmth is old fashioned, given the equipment available nowdays. Fires often take too much time and energy to build and feed. Fires will always have at least some impact on the environment, even if you are careful. In heavily travelled areas, if most people are building fires it can really degrade the environment.In many wilderness areas and in some parks fires aren't even allowed.IMO in true wilderness the best way to go is low impact camping. "Leave only footprints, take only photographs.".
Quote from: ringzero on October 22, 2009, 06:28:43 AMQuote from: cgk on October 22, 2009, 04:44:44 AMQuote from: J-sews on October 22, 2009, 01:48:26 AMThe Flair was my second choice Mat. My first priority is survival but if by some unbelievable miracle I should happen to bag a deer, I'll just field dress it and string it up in a tree. (bringing along a little block & tackle pulley set for that just in case) With typical temps this time of year in the 40's F (5 C) it will keep just fine. It just needs to be high enough that the damn coyotes can't get at it. As regards slicing off a few chops for dinner, I'm thinking not. Leaving the hide on protects the meat underneath. Opening it up would allow air/insects/dirt to get inside while its hanging or later while being dragged to the boat or transported back home. If this crappy weather holds, it should be plenty cold to keep. Your trip sounds fun but my only issue is a lack of fire. It is going to get pretty cold at at night and it would sure be nice to take the chill off. I've been on many backpacking trips in late autumn, winter, and early spring where I never built a single fire.Relying on fire for warmth is old fashioned, given the equipment available nowdays. Fires often take too much time and energy to build and feed. Fires will always have at least some impact on the environment, even if you are careful. In heavily travelled areas, if most people are building fires it can really degrade the environment.In many wilderness areas and in some parks fires aren't even allowed.IMO in true wilderness the best way to go is low impact camping. "Leave only footprints, take only photographs.".Making a fire is old fashion, and for me thats the whole point. A person could hunt during the day and sleep in a hotel at night. You could put a propane heater in the tent, for me I like building and feeding the fire. I agree that in heavy areas that could result in environmental impact but if a person is in the backwoods, there is a limitless supply of dead-fall and a careful fire would result in little to no impact. Different philosophies I suppose, mines no better than yours.
I can have fun camping with a fire, or without. In this case though the decision has already been made by the Park Service, so that's that.Thanks again for the advice on gear RZ. Looks like I could have done a little better on both my backpack and my tent. Ah well, perhaps next time I'll learn to ask for advice BEFORE I buy instead of after! Ah well, worst case if the load proves to be too heavy to go far, I can always drop it all right there (wherever) and make camp. Then just do day trips from camp each day with a much lighter load.