Hi guys got a debate for you whats best hub gears or derailers?I,ve had both, but now my mad racing days are behind me, i find i really appreciate the simplicity, reliability and cleanliness of my sturmney archer hub gear now I know most of the theoretical advantages of both systems, but which do you guys prefere and why?cheers
Quote from: micky d on May 19, 2007, 11:42:16 AMHi guys got a debate for you whats best hub gears or derailers?I,ve had both, but now my mad racing days are behind me, i find i really appreciate the simplicity, reliability and cleanliness of my sturmney archer hub gear now I know most of the theoretical advantages of both systems, but which do you guys prefere and why?cheersUh...and please add a brief description of the two systems, so mental lightweights like myself know what we're talking about! (What's a hub gear?)
I've only ever used derailleurs before, but my guess would be that they'd be easier to maintain and fix at the side of the road. I like simplicity.Def
I know you can mess up a derailleur pretty good- my bike rode me home a few times because of it!But I just like to have access to the messups... I'd hate to think of what happened if a small stone got in there.Def
Yeah, I guess... but I am hard on things, which is why I like SAKs, good quality tools and easily fixed components!Def
It don't have to be pretty, but it's gotta support a tank and it's gotta be ready in six minutes....Def
Yeah... it's amazing what those guys can build with no resources, and half the time doing it under fire! Given similar numbers, and restricting to conventional weapons, I firmly believed the Soviets, Chinese etc would win a war against the US simply because the AK-47 would fire not matter what... sure it wasn't overly accurate but they'd have time to fire off a few shots while the Yanks tried to unjam the M-16's!My father has some stories, but either not many or he doesn't share them much. He eventually remustered to the Air Force and spent 30 years in Admin flying a desk. He retired about 10 years ago to a small cottage in the backwoods of Ontario where he spends his days fiddling with boats, ATV's, computers, fixing up the house and garage etc. This time next month I'll be up there too helping him build a shed, cut some trees, and whatever else needs to be done. But I guess that's a little off topic! Back to the original question, while I wouldn't mind playing with a hub, I think I am firmly entrenched in the derilleur camp!Def
I agree, but based on similar numbers of troops and using only good old fashioned handheld weapons, the rate of successful fire from the AK series is significantly higher than the comparable US manufactured weapons. And given the much larger banana clip on the AK's, accuracy isn't such a big issue!Now if I could get an AK with a derailleur... Def
Hmmmm... an AK with a corkscrew.... that sounds pretty cool! :grin:Def
Hmmph. I've never even seen a hub gear on a bike before. Guess I'll have to start paying attention more.
If most of my riding was in a larger city,with lots of stops,I'd take a hub hands down.With the derailleurs,I'll take trigger shifters over anything else.Sturmey-Archer ,the king of internal hubs!
The big impetus for more development is in place right now; aging boomers are riding in bigger numbers aren't all that interested in riding centuries,and generally want things simplified.
Seems to be alot of that left foot stuff going around! Mine is held together with a steel plate and 8 screws.Which, btw, are Robertson screws! Def