And for all of you that think the hub/derailleur thing is confusing..Bianchi takes things further with a hybrid of sorts in their Bergamo model which has a hub AND derailleur sytem...this blurb is from their website: What’s the sound of one hand shifting? Find out for yourself on the Bergamo, a stylish commuter with the unique SRAM DualDrive single-sided shifting system. The Bergamo gives you simpler, more intuitive command of its 21 gears, thanks to DualDrive’s fusion of a self-energized internal 3-speed rear hub with a traditional 7-speed rear derailleur. Not only is the smooth shifting all controllable with your right hand, but you can shift gears while standing still or coasting. There’s a lot more to the Bergamo, including a light aluminum frame and purposeful commute-friendly amenities. It’s original design, in motion
That's one setup that I think would give you the best AND worst of both worlds..I can only pity the mechanic that sees one coming in the shop for work.If I had to make the choice,I come down on the side of hubs.
I'm not familiar with any of the newer hub gear systems, but I used to work on some old ones. My take is that in the past those systems were very reliable, but heavier than cassette/derailleur systems and much harder to work on when they needed maintenance. You should also take into consideration that they don't typically require as much maintenance as the cassette/derailleur systems.
Hi guys got a debate for you whats best hub gears or derailers?
Quote from: micky d on May 19, 2007, 11:42:16 AMHi guys got a debate for you whats best hub gears or derailers?Internally geared is usually heavier and more $$. Yeah, you don't get all the crap inside because it's sealed but I've been happy with derailers so I guess I'll stay with them.
Quote from: Splat on May 22, 2007, 06:22:52 PMQuote from: micky d on May 19, 2007, 11:42:16 AMHi guys got a debate for you whats best hub gears or derailers?Internally geared is usually heavier and more $$. Yeah, you don't get all the crap inside because it's sealed but I've been happy with derailers so I guess I'll stay with them.Hubs are still more expensive but there a lot lighter than they used to be plus there really under a lot of developement at the moment too, so hopefully they,ll start being cheaper too soon
The Great and Mighty Bison is ANNOYED!! In all fairness,if I could I'd have 2 bikes,one derailleur for more open road riding,and one hubbed for in town.For me the makes that are offered with hubs aren't handled by dealers close by.To be honest downshifting in town on a derailleur bike can be a right royal pain in the________(fill in the blank)
I usually use one gear for riding through town, the one that makes me go the fastest. On my rides I make it through town in about 10 min or less. Most of my riding is through the country so there is not much shifting except when I get to an incline.
Not really that flat. The town that I am talking about is on an Ohio River floodplain. I drop down into town, go through town which is flat, and then back up the hill to home. It makes for a nice ride. It is about 15 miles or so and I usually do it in about 40-60min depending on the weather.
Whoa those hills look steep , there must be at least 3 degrees of elevation
Quote from: micky d on November 29, 2007, 08:28:05 PMWhoa those hills look steep , there must be at least 3 degrees of elevation But sure makes for some fun sledding on snowy days!!!!
Quote from: Bison56 on November 29, 2007, 11:34:48 PMQuote from: micky d on November 29, 2007, 08:28:05 PMWhoa those hills look steep , there must be at least 3 degrees of elevation But sure makes for some fun sledding on snowy days!!!! , I bet you got a lot of 'push faster daddy'
Quote from: micky d on November 29, 2007, 11:40:55 PMQuote from: Bison56 on November 29, 2007, 11:34:48 PMQuote from: micky d on November 29, 2007, 08:28:05 PMWhoa those hills look steep , there must be at least 3 degrees of elevation But sure makes for some fun sledding on snowy days!!!! , I bet you got a lot of 'push faster daddy' And now going into the second generation
Why do you think he rides a bike all summer? Got to keep in shape for the winter!Def
He could get some snow tyres for his bike and pull them along!!
Quote from: Roadie on November 30, 2007, 12:00:29 AMHe could get some snow tyres for his bike and pull them along!!Great minds think alike, or in this case 25 seconds later