Surge,need help !!!

Vadim · **on:** December 16, 2009, 08:34:01 AM

Hi guys! Have a question about new Surge, when I open a Saw Blade the Clip-Point Knife opens too with Saw Blade. When open a Clip-Point Knife its work fine,the Saw Blade seat in its place. Never have this problem with my old (3 years) Surge.But when I lost a plastic on Scissors I sen my Surge to Leatherman (Oregon) and they give me brand new Surge ! So anybody knows about this problem? Thanks.

jim guy · **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2009, 08:43:20 AM

I cant say Ive had that happen on my surges, must be something wrong with the axle, bent?

BIG-TARGET · **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2009, 01:49:52 AM

Hasn't happened with mine

Shane769 · **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:43:53 AM

That is pretty weird... I would probably send it back, because that should definitely not happen. Never has to mine, and it is only a year old or less.

Crouton · **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:50:40 AM

That's very weird but you may want to try loosening the end cap on that side and see if that clears it up, it may just be a bit tight. Seems worth a try before you send it off to Leatherman, if you have two T-10 security torx bits you can give it a shot.

DaveK · **Reply #5 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:47:25 AM

I think Crouton might be on the right lines there. It sounds as though that opening the file is causing the whole fastener to turn, bringing the blade with it, maybe

CumminsDiesel - when you open the file, does the torx screw head on the other side turn with it? If it does - it shouldn't. You could try lubing the pivots, or as Crouton suggested, try letting a bit of the tension off by loosening the torx screw very slightly.

Vadim · **Reply #6 on:** December 18, 2009, 05:52:17 AM

Quote from: DaveK on December 18, 2009, 01:47:25 AM

I think Crouton might be on the right lines there. It sounds as though that opening the file is causing the whole fastener to turn, bringing the blade with it, maybe

CumminsDiesel - when you open the file, does the torx screw head on the other side turn with it? If it does - it shouldn't. You could try lubing the pivots, or as Crouton suggested, try letting a bit of the tension off by loosening the torx screw very slightly.

Yes,when I open the saw blade the torx screw head on the other side is turn with it.Any way I'm going to send it back because the Blade Exchanger has a very big play,

lot of scratches on blade exchanger......What happen with Leatherman quality

This is my second SURGE and it have a lot of BAD quality control ! Between my SURGE and SwissTool RS its like heaven and earth . Anyway thank you guys for helping me.Very good site,like it.

cadjak · **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2009, 06:21:49 AM

I don't know if it is a problem with the Surge but mine has just been sent in for the THIRD time. #1 = incomplete machining of one of the blades kept it from locking, #2 Interior part broke off the second day that I had it back from LM , #3 Brand new Surge they sent would not close without the pliers jamming between the screwdriver and the awl. To their credit Leatherman responded quickly and returned my Surge quickly. There just seems to be a problem with the quality control in the manufacturing. Or, I have very bad luck.

jim guy · **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2009, 06:26:38 AM

Must be bad luck I havent had any of those problems with my surges.

Vadim · **Reply #9 on:** January 01, 2010, 05:19:17 AM

Received my third Surge without any problems,everything is tough and work very well.Now have a both a SwissTool RS and Leatherman Surge and think about which one I like more

DaveK · **Reply #10 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:49:00 PM

Yay

About time too I guess CD? I'm glad they got it right eventually for you sir - enjoy it

cadjak · **Reply #11 on:** January 01, 2010, 06:04:02 PM

Quote from: CumminsDiesel on January 01, 2010, 05:19:17 AM

Received my third Surge without any problems,everything is tough and work very well.Now have a both a SwissTool RS and Leatherman Surge and think about which one I like more

A good way to start the new year. Keep us informed as to your decision process with these two tools. I will be right with you, if LM ever sends me a solid Surge to compare to my SwissTool RS. I am usually easy on my tools, but I like knowing that if I need them to do a job that requires extra strength, they will be up to it.

Vadim · **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2010, 04:51:25 AM

OK,I work with SwissTool and its slip in my hands because of it shiny and polish handles.When I try after my SURGE ...WOW,its all changes!!!To be honest SwissTool is great product,nice quality and etc.,but when its come to work the real tool is my SURGE,its easy to work with this tool.The Leatherman is right,with this tool I'm feeling ready,ready to work!!!The SURGE feeling more for real Heavy Duty work,with SwissTool I'm just scary to break it down.

DaveK · **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2010, 05:07:55 AM

I'm really pleased that your Surge is impressing you after a poor start.

I'm not a huge fan of the Swisstool myself, but I doubt you'll break it - it's a tough tool. I'd think it was at least as strong as the Surge, but I do understand about the "slippiness".

Vadim · **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2010, 05:17:02 AM

You right,the SwissTool is tough enough and tough like SURGE,but that slippery handles....

Vadim · **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2010, 05:31:33 AM

give both tools to my wife,which one she like more? She said SURGE more like for real man and for real work,the SwissTool like for women

.So funny,but SwissTool is great tool too.

Vadim · **Reply #16 on:** January 04, 2010, 05:34:22 AM

Thank you guys for replays,good luck!

duckman1975 · **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:31:38 PM

The SURGE may not be the prettiest, lightest or the most comfortable multitool. But it gets the job done and you ain't afraid to use it and use it Hard! and it sure can take a beating!

Vadim · **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2010, 10:43:04 PM

You right its not a same quality like a SwissTool,honestly if not a Leatherman sign on MultiTool I was think that tool is made in China.You just can't beat a SwissTool quality.

Magnus · **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2010, 10:59:27 PM

why do you have an engine manufacturers logo as you avatar?

Vadim · **Reply #20 on:** January 07, 2010, 12:08:19 AM

Quote from: Magnus on January 06, 2010, 10:59:27 PM

why do you have an engine manufacturers logo as you avatar?

don't know,maybe because I so like this motors

.Should I change my avatar? Like this

or this

?

Vadim · **Reply #21 on:** January 07, 2010, 02:40:08 AM

Better now?

Dunc · **Reply #22 on:** January 07, 2010, 01:44:55 PM

I had this problem with my Wave . Everytime I opened the plain edge blade the hole pivot rotated .I held the pivot still with the right size torx bit and needed quite alot of effort to open the blade . I applied plenty of oil and just kept rotating the pivot with the torx bit and its now loosened up fine

Took about 30 mins of constant turning .

Dunc

Vadim · **Reply #23 on:** January 07, 2010, 07:11:49 PM

Quote from: Dunc on January 07, 2010, 01:44:55 PM

I had this problem with my Wave . Everytime I opened the plain edge blade the hole pivot rotated .I held the pivot still with the right size torx bit and needed quite alot of effort to open the blade . I applied plenty of oil and just kept rotating the pivot with the torx bit and its now loosened up fine Took about 30 mins of constant turning .

Dunc

Thanks Dunk,I received a new one and it has no problem,everything is work very well.Like this tool,its so heavy and tough.

Vadim · **Reply #24 on:** January 09, 2010, 03:17:50 AM

Take my word back about quality of Leatherman.Was in WalMart and look at Leatherman Core...WOW! What a beautiful tool,just a one word: TOUGH !!! Nice job

Leatherman!

thebullfrog · **Reply #25 on:** January 09, 2010, 03:24:09 AM

That's my only real complaint about Leatherman. When built right they have great tools, but lately it seems they keep letting WAAAAAY too many defective tools leave the factory.

edited for mass spelling and grammatical screw ups

DaveK · **Reply #26 on:** January 09, 2010, 03:26:17 AM

Quote from: CumminsDiesel on January 09, 2010, 03:17:50 AM

Take my word back about quality of Leatherman.Was in WalMart and look at Leatherman Core...WOW! What a beautiful tool,just a one word: TOUGH !!! Nice job Leatherman!

About to be retired soon too the Core. You need to get one quick

Vadim · **Reply #27 on:** January 09, 2010, 04:00:58 AM

Quote from: DaveK on January 09, 2010, 03:26:17 AM

Quote from: CumminsDiesel on January 09, 2010, 03:17:50 AM
Take my word back about quality of Leatherman.Was in WalMart and look at Leatherman Core...WOW! What a beautiful tool,just a one word: TOUGH !!! Nice job Leatherman!

About to be retired soon too the Core. You need to get one quick

you right

DaveK · **Reply #28 on:** January 09, 2010, 04:01:25 AM

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