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Advice needed on portable cookers please

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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #30 on: January 08, 2010, 01:38:55 AM
I've just got the bog basic 27-2 UL.  Still, it kept me in hot food and drink last weekend. :tu:

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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #31 on: January 08, 2010, 01:59:01 AM
I would have gone with a lower version but all I could find were the ones with non-stick frypans.

I'm hoping I will be able to use my cast iron skillets with this setup. I have a little 6-1/2" skillet that I'm hoping will fit the supports.


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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #32 on: January 08, 2010, 02:04:58 AM
I just ordered a Trangia 27-7 Hard anodized with Primus burner...didn't need it but I've been wanting one for a long time  :P

...besides I already had the teakettle for it...

...I wonder it it comes with bacon?...

That's the set I have. I'd definitely recommend it :tu:

When you say Primus burner, is that the gas system that you can connect to it? I only have the Trangia meths burner with mine - which works great.



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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #33 on: January 08, 2010, 02:17:24 AM
I just ordered a Trangia 27-7 Hard anodized with Primus burner...didn't need it but I've been wanting one for a long time  :P

...besides I already had the teakettle for it...

...I wonder it it comes with bacon?...

That's the set I have. I'd definitely recommend it :tu:

When you say Primus burner, is that the gas system that you can connect to it? I only have the Trangia meths burner with mine - which works great.



Yes, the cartridge burner adapter. I figured I might as well go whole hog on it.

Have I ever shown my cheesy home-cobbled version for the Swedish mess kit? It works, but it is a low quality noisy burner without a generator tube.

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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #34 on: January 08, 2010, 09:36:22 AM
That's a great looking set-up Dave. :tu:

I don't have the gas adaptor for the Trangia but my Dad and a couple of friends of mine all highly recommend them, they can't believe I'm happy with the old meths burner.  I'll need to borrow one and find out what all the fuss is about.



Bringing this slightly back on topic.  I was thinking that a very simple Coleman gas type stove might be just the thing to keep in the car.  Simple and easy to use, it'll also boil up some water in no time at all.
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #35 on: January 08, 2010, 10:59:06 AM
I have a cheapo solid fuel job the same as Mr K pictured.  Cost a pound at a carboot sale with fuel :tu:  I don't know if there are pics anywhere but I used it at the meet last year.  It handled bean heating just fine :D

For non-emergency use I have a one ring portable gas stove (packs up briefcase size).
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #36 on: January 08, 2010, 11:24:48 AM
BTW I've bought and never used after a first try a Trangia set.

The canstove is cheaper, lighter, and more efficient.

I use what in USA is called, I think, rubbing alchool, and here is sold as "alcool etilico denaturato": ethilic with non-toxic colorants and untasty flavours.


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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #37 on: January 08, 2010, 05:46:43 PM
Rubbing alcohol (isopropyl) is not a suitable fuel because it is cut with water. Denatured alcohol (ethanol) is widely available here, which is probably the same as your "alcool etilico denaturato". Methanol is also available here in a product called "Heet", which is a gas tank antifreeze additive.


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Reply #38 on: January 08, 2010, 06:16:33 PM
Here's my version of the canbottle (aka Whitebox) stove.
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #39 on: January 08, 2010, 06:19:15 PM
That's damned impressive work Dave :tu:
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #40 on: January 08, 2010, 07:17:39 PM
Bringing this slightly back on topic.  I was thinking that a very simple Coleman gas type stove might be just the thing to keep in the car.  Simple and easy to use, it'll also boil up some water in no time at all.

You may find that the gas freezes in this weather though. Defrosting gas bottles isn't fun  :)
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #41 on: January 08, 2010, 07:22:39 PM

I don't have the gas adaptor for the Trangia but my Dad and a couple of friends of mine all highly recommend them, they can't believe I'm happy with the old meths burner.  I'll need to borrow one and find out what all the fuss is about.


Unusually for me, I'm in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. I've got one of those 2 burners + a grill Camping Gaz things for when the need arises. My Trangia is about portability really - i.e. fit the lot in my backpack, and the meths burner is perfectly food enough for that.


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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #42 on: January 08, 2010, 08:09:54 PM
Rubbing alcohol (isopropyl) is not a suitable fuel because it is cut with water. Denatured alcohol (ethanol) is widely available here, which is probably the same as your "alcool etilico denaturato". Methanol is also available here in a product called "Heet", which is a gas tank antifreeze additive.

My fault :/

Ok, denatured -I didn't dare to translate it :/- thank you :)


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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #43 on: January 08, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
Bringing this slightly back on topic.  I was thinking that a very simple Coleman gas type stove might be just the thing to keep in the car.  Simple and easy to use, it'll also boil up some water in no time at all.

You may find that the gas freezes in this weather though. Defrosting gas bottles isn't fun  :)

That's a good thought, I just looked up the Safety Data Sheet for Coleman's 70% Butane/30% Propane and it lists the boiling point as being -25C.  Not very likely to drop below that with our weather, although you never know :-\ . Simple butane will boil at a mere -5C so that really could cause issues ATM.

 The same data sheet also recommends the canisters not being stored in a car though, due to the risk of overheating to over 50C.

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/msds/gaz.pdf
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #44 on: January 08, 2010, 09:56:08 PM
Here's a question for you overseas GAZ stove owners...

I know that Camping GAZ is now owned by Coleman...I haven't seen a new stove for sale in years. Also finding CV270 and CV470 cartridges is hit and miss around here......what is the supply situation for you guys?

I keep an old GAZ stove and lantern in my earthquake kit and have been hoarding cartridges  :P


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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #45 on: January 08, 2010, 10:20:35 PM
They're still pretty easy to come bu over here.


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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #46 on: January 08, 2010, 10:51:36 PM
They're still pretty easy to come bu over here.


:tu: On the bright side...it gives me an excuse to buy an new cartridge stove :D


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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #47 on: January 08, 2010, 10:52:16 PM
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #48 on: January 08, 2010, 11:29:05 PM
Oh boy, lots of even sexier options now!  :ahhh

I think I do want to get a little trangia set up at some point but really don't have a use for one at the moment. I still think the cheap hexi one is about right for the car. I shall just have to fashion a foil windbreak for it or something.

Love the home made kit Spork - great job  :tu:

We also have a couple of those single ring gas ones in a case, kept for a spare in the camper van (which has a gas cooker in it) and for making tea at the allotment :)
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #49 on: January 09, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
A very dull but probably quite practical solution for emergency overnight use...



Just a thought :)
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #50 on: January 09, 2010, 01:50:21 PM
A very dull but probably quite practical solution for emergency overnight use...

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Just a thought :)

Stop being so dull and practical!  :twak: ;)

OK, it's a fine idea.  My only reservation about it is that I'd never remember to fill it up in the first place.  Or, if I did, then I'd never remember to change it and would just end up carrying around a flask of cold coffee. :-\
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #51 on: January 09, 2010, 01:58:33 PM
Sorry :)

I was thinking just fill it with hot water and it can be used for making up tea, coffee, soup or <shudders> pot noodles.
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #52 on: January 09, 2010, 07:59:27 PM
Mmmm, Pot noodle  :drool:
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #53 on: January 09, 2010, 08:23:12 PM
LOL... my pot noodle days are over due to having a wheat allergy (sadly).

A flask would never fly as it takes to much regular organisation.. this kit of mine needs to be a bit more idiot proof :)
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #54 on: January 10, 2010, 04:28:39 PM
Arrgh, see with you've done to me Chrissy?  I've ended up putting my old Trangia knock-off in the boot of the car, along with some coffee and a can of macaroni cheese.


I'm so easily lead. :-[
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #55 on: January 10, 2010, 06:10:35 PM
Arrgh, see with you've done to me Chrissy?  I've ended up putting my old Trangia knock-off in the boot of the car, along with some coffee and a can of macaroni cheese.


I'm so easily lead. :-[

Make sure you have a blanket too ;)

Ooh, and maybe some water and tea bags and.... he he he   >:D
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #56 on: January 10, 2010, 07:14:46 PM
Mac n' Cheese  :drool:


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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #57 on: January 10, 2010, 07:30:22 PM
Arrgh, see with you've done to me Chrissy?  I've ended up putting my old Trangia knock-off in the boot of the car, along with some coffee and a can of macaroni cheese.


I'm so easily lead. :-[

Make sure you have a blanket too ;)

Ooh, and maybe some water and tea bags and.... he he he   >:D

Tea bags and blanket already sorted. :D
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Re: Advice needed on portable cookers please
Reply #58 on: January 10, 2010, 07:32:11 PM
Very good.... now the snow will melt of course!

Still sensible stuff to have in the car I reckon :)
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Reply #59 on: January 10, 2010, 07:34:24 PM
Very good.... now the snow will melt of course!

Still sensible stuff to have in the car I reckon :)

Funny you should say that, but we had a bit of a thaw this afternoon. ::)
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