Urban survival. What do you guys think?

[Pacu]

Mossberg 590 parkerized with ghost rings and speedfeed

 

[turbov21]

Yeah overboard. Yes it could happen, but probably as likely as winning the lottery, do you lay out detailed plan of what to do when you hit the jackpot?

Is it the $20 Million or $4 Million lottery, because it varies.

$20 Million: I buy a warehouse in a train yard; fill it with every tool, computer, and fabrication system I can imagine;  sign a 20-something blond women's volleyball player to a five year contract to play the part of my arch-nemesis on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Sundays, and alternating Saturdays; and invest the rest in a diversified portfolio of foreign currencies, hedge funds, government bonds, and a few interesting software start-ups.

$4 Million: Invest half in a diverse portfolio, spend $1 million building myself a kick @$$ super-computer, and retire at 40 so I can spend the next several years being the biggest IT jerk-off imaginable.

[David]

Mossberg 590 parkerized with ghost rings and speedfeed

 

 

[Styerman]

It well behoves you to have a stash of food and water , tools etc . If you have such a stash - logically , you need a means of protecting it . With supermarkets being cleaned out in a matter of day or two, we are truly screwed if the trucks don't roll-just think truckers strike . Truckers have been getting a raw deal at least here in Canada , so this is not a totally fancifull scenario .

We havent even started to deal with Zombies yet .

Whatever scenario you will invisage will not be the one that actually happens . Natural disasters make life interesting enuff , if global warming unfolds as some pundits think , we will have a veritable disneyland of disasters .

Chris

[Anthony]

I'm all for being prepared, and in most cases over prepared...but I kind of rolled my eyes when nutnfancy started discussing keeping a parachute (or was it a glider?) in your high rise office building for an airborne escape...

That urban survival series he did overall was very good IMO, although I'm for carrying a much smaller kit instead of that huge bag he had.  My philosophy being; that smaller kit (even as small as a 3x5 Maxpedition pouch) will not have the capability of a backpack, but it will be on you always. 

[Styerman]

I gotta agree with ya on the Chute/Glider .

Chris

[Mr. Whippy]

I'm all for being prepared, and in most cases over prepared...but I kind of rolled my eyes when nutnfancy started discussing keeping a parachute (or was it a glider?) in your high rise office building for an airborne escape...

That urban survival series he did overall was very good IMO, although I'm for carrying a much smaller kit instead of that huge bag he had.  My philosophy being; that smaller kit (even as small as a 3x5 Maxpedition pouch) will not have the capability of a backpack, but it will be on you always. 

WTF?  Just keep a 60 or 70 M rope and rappel your way to safety.  Even on the Empire State building, you could rap it in 11 from the very top.

[Anthony]

I'm all for being prepared, and in most cases over prepared...but I kind of rolled my eyes when nutnfancy started discussing keeping a parachute (or was it a glider?) in your high rise office building for an airborne escape...

That urban survival series he did overall was very good IMO, although I'm for carrying a much smaller kit instead of that huge bag he had.  My philosophy being; that smaller kit (even as small as a 3x5 Maxpedition pouch) will not have the capability of a backpack, but it will be on you always.  

WTF?  Just keep a 60 or 70 M rope and rappel your way to safety.  Even on the Empire State building, you could rap it in 11 from the very top.

Actually he brought out his rappeling bag also and discussed rappeling to safety...I thought that idea was relatively sane compared to the glider so I didn't mention it

The only problem you run into with that is this; what if there's a fire below where you plan to rappel from?  Use the glider!

[Magnus]

I'm all for being prepared, and in most cases over prepared...but I kind of rolled my eyes when nutnfancy started discussing keeping a parachute (or was it a glider?) in your high rise office building for an airborne escape...

I think most untrained people would end up going splat into another building like a bug if they tried that.

[Mr. Whippy]

Actually he brought out his rappeling bag also and discussed rappeling to safety...I thought that idea was relatively sane compared to the glider so I didn't mention it

The only problem you run into with that is this; what if there's a fire below where you plan to rappel from?  Use the glider!

Use a directional.

Anchor above, set a directional around the fire (Really, how many fires shoot out 360 around the building?)

Rap past, pull line and head to safety.

[Medic82]

Actually he brought out his rappeling bag also and discussed rappeling to safety...I thought that idea was relatively sane compared to the glider so I didn't mention it

The only problem you run into with that is this; what if there's a fire below where you plan to rappel from?  Use the glider!

Use a directional.

Anchor above, set a directional around the fire (Really, how many fires shoot out 360 around the building?)

Rap past, pull line and head to safety.

or just go to the other side of the building where there is no fire

[Freudian Frog]

Yes, I'm sure you'd do all these things in an emergency situation.

Instead of following the company or building's contingency plan which probably makes a whole lot more sense than rappeling or gliding off a building with little to no experience (even if you have rappeling or gliding experience, I doubt you've done it amongst skyscrappers ).

[AHB]

Preparing for 'End Of Days' really ain't my thing, but I like the 'Night of the living dead' scenery.
It kinda justifies getting a 'Zombie Chopper' someday..  

[Medic82]

Yes, I'm sure you'd do all these things in an emergency situation.

Instead of following the company or building's contingency plan which probably makes a whole lot more sense than rappeling or gliding off a building with little to no experience (even if you have rappeling or gliding experience, I doubt you've done it amongst skyscrappers ).

Dude, you got to be pretty stupid if you didn't go down the stairs first. I for one would never stash a glider or rope at the office in case of a fire since the fire safety in buildings are very good, but I can also understand if Mr.Whippy did store some rope since he is a climber.

[Freudian Frog]

Yes, I'm sure you'd do all these things in an emergency situation.

Instead of following the company or building's contingency plan which probably makes a whole lot more sense than rappeling or gliding off a building with little to no experience (even if you have rappeling or gliding experience, I doubt you've done it amongst skyscrappers ).

Dude, you got to be pretty stupid if you didn't go down the stairs first. I for one would never stash a glider or rope at the office in case of a fire since the fire safety in buildings are very good, but I can also understand if Mr.Whippy did store some rope since he is a climber.

Dude, if you're counting on being able to rappel down a building while apparently all FOUR or more stairways are on fire I'm pretty sure the building is going down anyway.

I'm not an architect but that sounds like bad news bears to me. XD

[Mr. Whippy]

Yes, I'm sure you'd do all these things in an emergency situation.

Instead of following the company or building's contingency plan which probably makes a whole lot more sense than rappeling or gliding off a building with little to no experience (even if you have rappeling or gliding experience, I doubt you've done it amongst skyscrappers ).

Dude, you got to be pretty stupid if you didn't go down the stairs first. I for one would never stash a glider or rope at the office in case of a fire since the fire safety in buildings are very good, but I can also understand if Mr.Whippy did store some rope since he is a climber.

Dude, if you're counting on being able to rappel down a building while apparently all FOUR or more stairways are on fire I'm pretty sure the building is going down anyway.

I'm not an architect but that sounds like bad news bears to me. XD

Well a couple things:
1.  I'm taking the "Planes into the  WTC" scenario where they could not get everyone out if they wanted.  Throw a rope around something solid (pole, heavy desk, coupla dead bodies) rap down 100 feet a  pitch and you're off the top of the building in about 20 minutes.

2.  If you're on top of a 10 story building that's totally engulfed, you'll be at the ground in about 2 minutes. (1 pitch).  Seriously doubt if the whole place will collapse in 2 minutes.

3. Rappelling off a building would be a piece of cake.  Try rapping off 2 holes drilled in the ice with a piece of cord tied through them for a little more spice.


(Actually, they're extremely strong, but this one looks a bit sketchy to me... )

[nuphoria]

Well I've decided my exit strategy from a tall burning building involves one of two possibilities:

Superman


or Spiderman.

Sorted

[donvito]

Well I've decided my exit strategy from a tall burning building involves one of two possibilities:

Superman


or Spiderman.

Sorted

Batman   ?

[Santos]

Well I've decided my exit strategy from a tall burning building involves one of two possibilities:

Superman


or Spiderman.

Sorted

Better yet acquire the super hero powers so you don't have to wait around for some freak type in spandex
*runs off to find out where he can get biten by an atomic super spider*  


Man i wish i had all them spidey moves, for one i would be a lot better at my capoeira and rock climbing

[Santos]

Well a couple things:
1.  I'm taking the "Planes into the  WTC" scenario where they could not get everyone out if they wanted.  Throw a rope around something solid (pole, heavy desk, coupla dead bodies) rap down 100 feet a  pitch and you're off the top of the building in about 20 minutes.

This scenario is almost as silly as zombie planning... it has happened what.. once? Its the sort of scenario that you can't anticipate If it happens again it will be something completely different.


I want to make a project bail-out bag and be grateful that i never to use it. One thing that i liked over at Zombie Survival and Defence Wiki (don't laugh, simulated scenarios help excercise the brain to think laterally for self-sufficiency or innovation... ok, laugh a little.) was in the Scrounger Team section (scaveging and looting etc)

It was talking about a Scroungers kit, apart from the laugh about packing lots of guns and meelee weapons there was a very good point about a scroungers survival kit should fit in tha vest and belt kit not a backpack. Why? well its on you at all times and saves the bag itself for carrying the salvage.

So i want to make a Bail Out bag vest, which may be a few less items thsn some of our esteemed MT users EDC keychains 

I also found out that production stirling engines had been developed by philips. if only i could get my hands one one

[glorn]

I EDC some stuff that is considered "survival gear". But I don't have a stash of MREs in the basement.

I know I mentioned this here before in an older thread, but..

Chatting once a long time ago with some of the types who carry around a giant bug out bag in case the zombies come to dinner. They wanted to know why my EDC kit did not contain food and a bunch of other "vital" stuff.

I replied that I only needed my small kit, and my rifle and ammo:

"So I can shoot as many of you smurfs as I can and steal all your gear."



Those big heavy bags are just giant targets, and slow moving meat is easier to bring down. 

In case of emergency, travel light, and travel armed. 

[Neil]

...

I also found out that production stirling engines had been developed by philips. if only i could get my hands one one

I didn't know that but I do now

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

There was a really great article on Stirling engines in A to B magazine if there are any other subscribers out there

[Santos]

NEIL: Yeah it rocks... if that the beast that puts out 200w+ mark (yes 200w not 200kw )
 i would so want one, have it humming along with the shared pilot light of a gas fridge. Trickle charge batteries and what not.


MIKE: For us non-subscribers what was the jist of the article? Was it hobby scale? Real-scale or a lot of interesting theory?!

[Santos]

lol why didn't i youtube it earlier?
Philips Stirling Generator