Plier MTs vs. SAKs

[yud]

Ok for some reason I keep thinking about getting a Plier MT (SOGs appeal to me)

But when I look at full size PMTs, it looks like you have to open the pliers to get at a tool then close the handles to use the tool where as on my SAK you just open and use.  Dose this impede usefulness?

[Magnus]

not really, it takes a little longer, yes, but I have always found it quicker on pliers based MTs to get tools out than on SAKs which can quite often be fiddly and stiff to get tools out of. 

[Benner]

If that's a concern (not one of mine) why not get a Swisstool?

I am actually surprised to hear you don't have one for someone whop has been here as long as you.

[Precise]

Bear Jaws and the Swiss Spirit both have all outside opening implements. They are on my list of wants. However, it is not that big of a deal. My big ol SOG powerlock takes longer to open and use, but it is a mighty big MT. The main use I get out of it is the compound leverage plier head, so deploying the rest of the tools isn't really a negative factor.

And with my Wave, which I use as a general purpose kind of thing, I find that the tool that I would want most quickly is the knife. So the fact that only the blades (and saw and file) are outside opening works just fine. And one handed opening is nice for the blades.

If I had a swiss spirit then it would probably replace the Wave. Nothing as big as the Powerlock has outside opening implements for some reason.

[yud]

If that's a concern (not one of mine) why not get a Swisstool?

I am actually surprised to hear you don't have one for someone whop has been here as long as you.

I was wondering  if it is a concern

I just got done with my SAK wish list last Christmas, now time to try some other stuff.

[yud]

depending on how much Brithday money I get I think I may get a Powerlock (found a good deal )

[Gareth]

As another SAK fan I know where you're coming from.  On the classic multi style tool (PST, Blast, Supertool etc) yes it does, without question IMO.  BUT you get used to it and it's not a big chore.  Why not do what I do and carry both.

I put some thoughts down here a while back and while it's not all relevant to your question it does touch on it.  As I said in the comparison; if you think pliers are going to be of any use to you, you really should get some .  If you use the blades more then sticking to a SAK is just fine.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,10620.0.html

[nuphoria]

Wow, a multitool virgin after all this time?

Get that cherry popped young man 

[jim guy]

Wow, a multitool virgin after all this time?

Get that cherry popped young man 

[DaveK]

I can open tools in a PST just as quick as most SAKs, due to a combination of Arthritis and bitten nails 

Seriously, it is an extra task, but as Gareth says, nothing that would drive you mad. Plus, there's the benefit in the fact that most full-sized multis reward you with a much bigger and stronger tool for the extra effort required.

[yud]

Wow, a multitool virgin after all this time?

Get that cherry popped young man 

[Sazabi]

I can open tools in a PST just as quick as most SAKs, due to a combination of Arthritis and bitten nails 

Seriously, it is an extra task, but as Gareth says, nothing that would drive you mad. Plus, there's the benefit in the fact that most full-sized multis reward you with a much bigger and stronger tool for the extra effort required.

You need one of these, then, Dave.

[DaveK]

I can open tools in a PST just as quick as most SAKs, due to a combination of Arthritis and bitten nails 

Seriously, it is an extra task, but as Gareth says, nothing that would drive you mad. Plus, there's the benefit in the fact that most full-sized multis reward you with a much bigger and stronger tool for the extra effort required.

You need one of these, then, Dave.

Haha - I saw those before!

In practice, I hardly ever use SAKs any more so I can get by just fine.

[Sea Monster]

It's a matter of half a second or so for the extra effort of opening and closing the handles when getting your blade or screwdrivers out,
much like the difference between a one handed and a two handed SAK opening.

Now there's all sort of commandos who need to open their knives with four broken, blood slicked fingers, in the dark, under the sea, being chased by wolves - but for the odd job of slicing salami or cutting rope, an extra second makes sweet bugger all difference.

[jim guy]

It's a matter of half a second or so for the extra effort of opening and closing the handles when getting your blade or screwdrivers out,
much like the difference between a one handed and a two handed SAK opening.

Now there's all sort of commandos who need to open their knives with four broken, blood slicked fingers, in the dark, under the sea, being chased by wolves - but for the odd job of slicing salami or cutting rope, an extra second makes sweet bugger all difference.

yeah but its not as cool

[yud]

It's a matter of half a second or so for the extra effort of opening and closing the handles when getting your blade or screwdrivers out,
much like the difference between a one handed and a two handed SAK opening.

Now there's all sort of commandos who need to open their knives with four broken, blood slicked fingers, in the dark, under the sea, being chased by wolves - but for the odd job of slicing salami or cutting rope, an extra second makes sweet bugger all difference.

Yeah Nomad you'er right, thinking about it I am never need that half second and if I was in need of that, I can't think of not haveing a SAK

[yud]

Wow, a multitool virgin after all this time?

Get that cherry popped young man 

Sorry took me a little bit to think of how to reply (here gose nothing):

Any one who would like to donate to the "pop Yud's cherry" fund please PM me

you will be rewarded with 1 hi res photo (could be more ) of the tool that is bought, But wait there's more you will also get a lovely certificate of appreciation that can be printed and passed down to your grandkids for years to come.

anything left over will be spilt between needy people and Def

[Zed]

This is the one thing i like about my old wave is the tools on the outside, not all of them but the ones i usually use, it does make things a little quicker and a OH blade, 

paul

[Neil]

...
In practice, I hardly ever use SAKs any more so I can get by just fine.

Spare SAKs?  Just send 'em over 

[Benner]

I am almost ashamed to say that I haven't carried a SAK in months. 

[Zed]

I am almost ashamed to say that I haven't carried a SAK in months. 

sadly since getting the kick i only carry a SAK in my bag, and the kick in my back pocket,  still like SAK's though,

paul

[Benner]

The problem is I have a serious issue with tool duplication and it bugs the hell out of me if my carry has any.  Sadly with the other stuff I like to carry, SAK's only offer me duplication so they get left at home.

[Gareth]

I am almost ashamed to say that I haven't carried a SAK in months. 

get ye gone Sinner! 

 

[Benner]

I am ashamed of myself. 

I either need a SAK with great pliers, or one without a knife but still full sized.

[Neil]

I am ashamed of myself.  

I either need a SAK with great pliers, or one without a knife but still full sized.

Why not make one.  You've got eight days spare I hear

[turbov21]

Now there's all sort of commandos who need to open their knives with four broken, blood slicked fingers, in the dark, under the sea, being chased by wolves - but for the odd job of slicing salami or cutting rope, an extra second makes sweet bugger all difference.

Those are some hard core wolves. 

[Sea Monster]

NO ONE IS SAFE!

They're more dangerous than polar bears 

[Benner]

NOTHING is more dangerous than a Polar bear.

[Gareth]

NOTHING is more dangerous than a Polar bear.

except an Benner.  Viscous, nasty sods so I hear.

[yud]

Just ordered my SOG PowerLock w/V-Cutter